White House Website Petition Against Yanukovych Signed by 63,000
Source: RIA Novosti
WASHINGTON, November 29 (RIA Novosti) – An online petition demanding the US government to impose sanctions on Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has been signed by about 63,000 people in two days.
In a move that stunned Europe, the Ukrainian government last week announced that it would seek closer cooperation with Russia and the Moscow-led Customs Union trade bloc, which also comprises Belarus and Kazakhstan, instead of signing an association agreement and a free-trade deal with the European Union.
The petition demands personal sanctions, including an entry ban and asset freeze, on Yanukovych and members of the Ukrainian government unless Ukraine signs the EU agreement.
The White House vows to timely consider any petition on its website that gathers 100,000 votes within 30 days after being published.
Read more: http://en.ria.ru/world/20131129/185116678/White-House-Website-Petition-Against-Yanukovych-Signed-by-63000.html
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Online gang up by one section of their society I'd guess - if ten email ten who email ten........................or use FB or twatter to do similar. 
What the Ukraine is actually seeking to contrive is an agreement with both the EU and Russia which would make more sense anyway.
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You have to understand, from the Silesia Mountains in present day Western Poland, to the Himalayas and its "foot hills" that make up Modern China, is one huge flat plain, referred to as the Steppes. The Ural Mountain does divide it a little bit, but in areas where most people do not move, people prefer to go over the Ural River and its flat plains NOT the Ural Mountains. The Caucasus Mountains and the mountains of hills of present day Iran set up the southern border of this huge plain.
Mountains make good borders, few people live in mountains and such mountains can be used as a gate to control who goes where. Plains make lousy borders for where is the border is the issue.
Thus any border between the Oder River in Silesia and the Great Wall of China is a line drawn in sand. Often you have good farmlands on both side of that border, and people crossing that border to see friends and relatives on the other side of that border all the time (and some of these crossing are done at various uncontrolled border crossing, much like the US- Canadian Border from Minnesota to the Rockies.
Now the Amur River is the present border between Russia and China, but that is more a line drawn to have a line then a real border (as is the Oder River which is the border between Germany and Poland). The reason for this is River UNITE people, Rivers do not DIVIDE people for people have used rivers to move items and themselves by boat for thousands of years.
Now, Russia has been defined as combination of two Rivers, the Volga, The Northern Dvina, and the connection of those two rivers to the Baltic at St Petersburg.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Dvina_Canal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga-Baltic_Waterway
Poland has been defined as the Vistula River.
The Ukraine has been defined as the Dnieper River.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnieper_river
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnipro_River
As you can see, the Dnieper is the major river in the Ukraine, but its also flows in Russia and Belarus.
Belarus is the Prepit Marshes that drains into the Dnipro river, The Vistula River, the Don River, Volga River and into the Baltic River. In Summer it is an impassable swamp except on paved improved roads. In Winter, it is a huge flat plain, when the swamp freezes over. Off road, it is easier to move in these Marshes in Winter then in Summer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinsk_Marshes
The Don River is in Russia, but close to the Ukraine and drains from the Eastern Ukraine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_River,_Russia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnieper-Bug_Canal
Thus the people of these Steeps, are more often then not defined by what River they live near. If between any two major groups, the line is blurry.
This is complicated by the Soviet System of defining Nationality. These methods were kept by the successor states to the Soviet Union. If both your parents were one nationality, that was your nationality. If your parents were two different nationalities, then when you turned 18, you had to pick one and that was your nationality for the rest of your life.
Thus in the Ukraine you have a huge Russian Population in its Eastern Areas. Some of these were Russians who moved in, others were of "Mixed" Marriages and opt for Russian for under the Soviet System it was advantageous to be Russian as opposed to any other Nationality.
Another Problem is while Stalin drew up most of the borders of the present day successor states of the Soviet Union (When Stalin made the Soviet Union as a Federation), Khrushchev transferred the Crimea and Sevastopol from Russia to the Ukraine for he was a Ukrainian and he was looking for support by showing he would help his fellow Ukrainian. You can make an argument for the Crimea to be in either Country. Thus the Ukraine has basically accepted an unofficial joint rule over the Crimea, for it resolves a problem caused by Khrushchev.
Another problem is that this area is populated by Slavs. Yes, Polish uses the Latin Alphabet and the Ukrainians and the Russians used the Cyrillic Alphabet, but they are slavs. While they are major differences between the languages (Polish uses more German and Latin Terms, Russia and Ukrainian uses more Greek Terms), they can understand each other to a degree (if and when they want to). Each is closer to each other then English is to German or Swedish for example.
Now I go into the above, to show that any division between these people have to be arbitrary, and when you have such situations, these ease of movement and common language tends to bring the people closer together (In the Former Soviet Central Asia States the Armies still drill in Russian, for they see Russia as the dominate country in the region and sooner or later they know they have to deal with them).
Now, Poland, The Ukraine and Belarus are all economically stronger then the Former Soviet Republics of Central Asia, and thus can be more independent (Thus they armies have NOT retain Russian as they language) but they know they have to deal with Russia sooner or later. They may not LIKE the idea of dealing with Russia, but they know they have to sooner or later.
Furthermore what is a Ukrainian, a Russian, Belarusian or even a Pole, is subject to some debate as you get away from the rivers where most of them live. Russia, being the biggest country, tends to have the stronger draw.
On top of this is that the main energy supplier for the Ukraine is Russia, and that will force the Ukraine to come to terms with Russia sooner or later. The Ukraine has a choice, being independent and have a hard time getting energy, or agree to work with Russia and get the Energy its needs to bring up its economy.
Except in rare occasional (and then only for brief time periods) will a country go against its energy supplier. Hitler did in in 1941, Germany's former source of Oil marched into Berlin in April 1945. Mussolini opposed Hitler's first attempt to annex Austria, but as Italy finished its transition to German Coal from English Coal (Do to English coal production dropping in the 1920s do to reduced amount of coal it could produced) it stopped that opposition.
Thus anyone who has watched the situation knows the Ukraine will join Russia sooner or later, not because it wants to but because it has to. Poland, being closer to Germany (and uses the Latin Alphabet) has other options, but I see even Poland joining Russia long term for the same reasons. Energy is big money and sooner or later the need for energy decides who your allies will be.
Thanks for that. 
At least that's what the White House website told me when I first viewed the petition on Thursday.
I can tell you however that I didn't sign that petition. I don't even have an account (which is necessary to sign such a petition) at whitehouse.gov.
But when I went back today, it didn't seem to recognize me anymore...
