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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:01 PM Dec 2013

Glenn Greenwald Vows To Return To U.S. After 'Exile'

Source: TPM

Glenn Greenwald said in an interview published late last week that he intends to return to the United States at some point, admitting that he does "feel a bit on exile."

The Brazil-based American journalist who has reported extensively on top secret surveillance programs revealed through documents leaked by Edward Snowden said he refuses to be kept out of his native country simply for doing his job.

"I do feel a bit on exile but I don’t mean to stay away from the US," Greenwald told the website Telerama. "I wanna force the issue at some point. I refuse to be kept out of my own country for doing journalism."

Greenwald originally moved to Brazil as a result of a U.S. law that denied immigration benefits to his gay partner, but that law has since been struck down.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/greenwald-on-u-s-return-i-refuse-to-be-kept-out-of-my-own-country-for-doing-journalism



What an insult to people who have really been exiled, who suffer persecution, who can't return to their home countries out of fear for their lives. He says "I refuse to be kept out of my own country for doing journalism" when no one is keeping him out of the country for doing journalism, and before he claimed to live outside of the US due to the lack of gay marriage laws. So, what?
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Glenn Greenwald Vows To Return To U.S. After 'Exile' (Original Post) uhnope Dec 2013 OP
Wow...what an asshole. SoapBox Dec 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author frylock Dec 2013 #7
Greenwald's not the asshole I see here. last1standing Dec 2013 #25
+ 1 Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #33
He's not being "kept out of [his] own country for doing journalism, George II Dec 2013 #2
Oh yeah, let's hope GG doesn't hurt himself climbing down from his cross. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #3
Has the martyr bothered to leftynyc Dec 2013 #6
I've been wondering as well. He's uncharacteristically "timid" when it comes to Mother Russia. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #8
"Follow the money", we're always told. randome Dec 2013 #4
FATCA is going to be the reason he gives up his US citizenship..I predicted it here msanthrope Dec 2013 #12
He probably does have enough money he'd be affected by that davidpdx Dec 2013 #31
He has enough in tax liens to make FATCA very uncomfortable. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #37
What an asshole leftynyc Dec 2013 #5
I am old enough to remember when Greenwald was a hero here Kelvin Mace Dec 2013 #9
would be interesting to backtrace his fans postings reddread Dec 2013 #10
not an uncommon practice.. iamthebandfanman Dec 2013 #14
I didn't know that Greenwald was exiled MrScorpio Dec 2013 #11
Obama put him on double secret probation alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #22
Yeah, kooks have all the Cha Dec 2013 #27
I don't balme him for fearing to return TriplD Dec 2013 #13
He owes 100k in back taxes....that's the reason he feels the heat. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #15
I've not heard that TriplD Dec 2013 #18
Why yes.... msanthrope Dec 2013 #19
Your artcle says nothing about him avioding taxes TriplD Dec 2013 #24
Intentions to pay one's back taxes are not payment of said taxes. Greenwald msanthrope Dec 2013 #26
The article was written in June. I wonder if that payment plan has been initiated. randome Dec 2013 #28
He has lived in Brazil for several years.... George II Dec 2013 #30
He was in the porn business? dawn frenzy adams Dec 2013 #29
Women, huh? Okay, you need to hush because grown ups are talking. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #36
Self-important prick. nt onehandle Dec 2013 #16
Maybe libertarians don't always think clearly. struggle4progress Dec 2013 #17
he said the same thing about two months ago. madrchsod Dec 2013 #20
ROFL: The Farce Continues alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #21
+1 davidpdx Dec 2013 #32
Oh no! Please don't. dawn frenzy adams Dec 2013 #23
Wow, this thread is revealing. Such hatred for journalism. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #34
All out for the 2-minute hate! Pretty impressive roster of the usual suspects so far. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #35

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
1. Wow...what an asshole.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:13 PM
Dec 2013

"Exile"? Of all the nerve.

What's the matter Mr. "Journalist"? Break up with the BF and don't want to be a Brazilian any more?

You're not welcome back.

Response to SoapBox (Reply #1)

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
25. Greenwald's not the asshole I see here.
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 08:50 AM
Dec 2013

An asshole would make sure to stalk every thread about a journalist for the purpose of making immature and hateful comments like a spoiled child having an extended tantrum.

It's a good thing you don't do that, huh?

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. He's not being "kept out of [his] own country for doing journalism,
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:18 PM
Dec 2013

His original stated reason for not living in the US is because of his same sex marriage, but he and his husband can return to the US tomorrow if he really wanted to and there would be no prosecution of them due to their same sex marriage.

More than 15 states have legalized same sex marriage and the DOMA has been struck down by the United States Supreme Court.

Now his REAL reason for not returning to the United States has changed?

Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
3. Oh yeah, let's hope GG doesn't hurt himself climbing down from his cross.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:21 PM
Dec 2013
I'm still waiting for his expose on what's happening in Russia these days, but I guess I'll be waiting for a long LONG time. Big fat lying hypocrite. Why's he coming back here? Brazil sick of him?
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
6. Has the martyr bothered to
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:38 PM
Dec 2013

comment on this?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/09/us-russia-media-idUSBRE9B80I120131209

snip
(Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin tightened his control over Russia's media on Monday by dissolving the main state news agency and replacing it with an organization that is to promote Moscow's image abroad.

The move to abolish RIA Novosti and create a news agency to be known as Rossiya Segodnya is the second in two weeks strengthening Putin's hold on the media as he tries to reassert his authority after protests against his rule.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
8. I've been wondering as well. He's uncharacteristically "timid" when it comes to Mother Russia.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:43 PM
Dec 2013


 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. "Follow the money", we're always told.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:23 PM
Dec 2013

Greenwald's tax problems are likely the real reason for his 'exile'.
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msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
12. FATCA is going to be the reason he gives up his US citizenship..I predicted it here
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 07:24 PM
Dec 2013

last week.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
31. He probably does have enough money he'd be affected by that
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:08 AM
Dec 2013

The problem with that law is it pretty much traps all expats. Property is suppose to be included as well, though I believe your home residence is exempt. If I were to buy a second apartment here in Korea (it is common to own two apartments and rent one out as an investment if you can afford to do so) that might raise me to the level where I'd have to report it. Even a small apartment can run around $150,000. Currently Democrats Abroad is working with NY Senator Kristen Gillibrand to make changes so most expats are exempt,

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
5. What an asshole
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 05:36 PM
Dec 2013

Nobody is keeping him in exile except himself and yet he whines about what a martyr he is. So sick of his tired shit.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
9. I am old enough to remember when Greenwald was a hero here
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:07 PM
Dec 2013

for his investigative work into BushCo.

However, once he started reporting that Obama was continuing the same programs, suddenly he became an "asshole".

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
10. would be interesting to backtrace his fans postings
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:20 PM
Dec 2013

and by "fans" I mean rabid detractors.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
14. not an uncommon practice..
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 08:05 PM
Dec 2013

just ask ralph nader...

people change... that goes for the person in question and his/her supporters...

I was a fan of glens until that article that used a random photo of computer parts (a desktop PC mind you) and proclaimed it was a an specific smashed up laptop :p

made me question a lot of things , personally..
if youll make up a lie to support a picture that furthers your assertion.. then what else ya lying about..

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
22. Obama put him on double secret probation
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 11:43 PM
Dec 2013

It's one of the very many Great Disappointments (tm) of the Obama dictatorship-cough-meant presidency.



It's fun to imitate kooks.

TriplD

(176 posts)
13. I don't balme him for fearing to return
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 07:25 PM
Dec 2013

In fact I think at this point it's naive to assume he could enter the USA without being threatened, harassed, or intimidated by our government.

I'd live in self-imposed exile too if I knew my laptop would be seized and I'd possible be detained upon return.

TriplD

(176 posts)
24. Your artcle says nothing about him avioding taxes
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 08:30 AM
Dec 2013

In fact your New York Daily News source says he intended to pay. Your claim is based on unfounded speculation.

That's for wasting my time. I came to DU because people cared about the truth. Some have let their hatred override their common sense.

It is also speculation that all the laptop seizures and detaining his partner might have intimidated him and other journalists from returning, but it actually has factual backing since loaptops have been seized and his partner detained.

And let's not forget that he's not the only journalist in self-imposed exile - Laura Poitras works from Europe since she can't seem to get into America without getting her laptops seized.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
26. Intentions to pay one's back taxes are not payment of said taxes. Greenwald
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 08:53 AM
Dec 2013

himself confirmed the liens and judgments, per the Gawker article. One understands the retirement to Brazil.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
28. The article was written in June. I wonder if that payment plan has been initiated.
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 09:33 AM
Dec 2013

My guess is no. But it's just a guess.
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George II

(67,782 posts)
30. He has lived in Brazil for several years....
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 05:23 PM
Dec 2013

....the laptop seizures and detaining his partner took place after he moved to Brazil.

By the way, I think "self-imposed exile" is an oxymoron.

dawn frenzy adams

(429 posts)
29. He was in the porn business?
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 04:34 PM
Dec 2013

He said there was no harm? It is especially brutal to women. There is a bevy of sexually transmitted diseases that include gonorrhea of the throat, chlamydia of the eye, and rectal prolapse.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
36. Women, huh? Okay, you need to hush because grown ups are talking.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 01:16 AM
Dec 2013

A gay man invests in another man's website whose name stands for Hairy Jocks and somehow that's oppressing women?

Women have real problems in this world, and gay dudes making gay porn aren't one of them.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
20. he said the same thing about two months ago.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 11:21 PM
Dec 2013

i guess he noticed no one is talking about him lately.

dawn frenzy adams

(429 posts)
23. Oh no! Please don't.
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 04:44 AM
Dec 2013

Don't come back Glen! Stay in Brazil with it's horrific color caste system and economic inequality. I get the impression you love it.
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