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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 07:20 PM Jan 2014

UPDATED: Gay Marriage Opponents Call For Uprising In Utah

Last edited Sun Jan 5, 2014, 11:15 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: TPM

CAITLIN MACNEAL – JANUARY 5, 2014, 4:30 PM EST

The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association on Saturday organized a meeting in Highland, Utah to call for an uprising and to express their opposition to same-sex marriage in Utah, Fox 13 Now Salt Lake City reported.

"The people of Utah have rights, too, not just the homosexuals. The homosexuals are shoving their agenda down our throats," Former Graham County, Ariz., Sheriff Richard Mack said at the meeting.

A federal judge in December struck down Utah's ban on same-sex marriage, and courts subsequently denied the state's request for a temporary stay, which would keep counties from issuing marriage licenses to gay couples while the state appeals the ruling.

By the third stay denial, most counties in Utah were issuing licenses to all couples.

:::snip:::

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/utah-same-sex-marriage-opponents-call-for-uprising



UPDATE:

Thanks OldRedNeck for this info at comment 12, below:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014689559#post12

Who is the "Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association?"

Looks like another rightwing group that is convinced the nation is in trouble and only they can save us.

http://cspoa.org/about/message-from-mack/

From their website:

"46 Anti-American US Senators vote for the UN Gun Control Treaty"

"State sovereignty under attack"

"List of sheriffs and peace officers who say 'No' to Obama gun control"

"CSPOA being used to stop Obamacare"

The CEO (and possibly the only member) has an online store where you can buy a copy of his book: "The County Sheriff: America's Last Hope"



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UPDATED: Gay Marriage Opponents Call For Uprising In Utah (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2014 OP
What is it with these dumb-asses who don't know what the word "rights" means? arcane1 Jan 2014 #1
when wingers say 'rights' they really mean privilege. KG Jan 2014 #21
"their obsession with the "shoved down our throats" expression.' Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #32
Excellent point. yellowcanine Jan 2014 #70
In the few functioning brain cells they have, equality means only for them, civil rights RKP5637 Jan 2014 #54
I'd like to hear Richard Mack mokawanis Jan 2014 #2
Bunch of nuts with guns and badges Faygo Kid Jan 2014 #3
Bunch of gun nuts billh58 Jan 2014 #51
We have the right to take your rights away! geomon666 Jan 2014 #4
+1 nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #24
Judiciary is one major block against the Tyranny of the Majority. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #5
Why do their "rights" always require telling others what they NYC Liberal Jan 2014 #6
"The homosexuals are shoving their agenda down our throats," 4now Jan 2014 #7
Freud would have a great time analyzing that comment! eom DonViejo Jan 2014 #8
Sometimes a cigar is just a big honking shlong. ;-) eggplant Jan 2014 #50
yeah, they actually say that alot. Between that and the whole "Teabagging" thing, pepperbear Jan 2014 #13
It's that old love/hate thing I fear. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #40
Oh gawd.... Paging Mr Freud! idwiyo Jan 2014 #56
I think it's deliberate. merrily Jan 2014 #61
so often from the mouths of those violated themselves as kids FraDon Jan 2014 #71
Last I checked cvoogt Jan 2014 #9
If they want to call themselves the "Constitutional" Swede Atlanta Jan 2014 #10
"The people of Utah have rights, too, not just the homosexuals" defacto7 Jan 2014 #11
You nailed it. Are they supposed to be animals? nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #15
You know.. you might be on to what they actually DO think.. pangaia Jan 2014 #22
By "the people of Utah" he means Mormons. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #29
You've got that right. defacto7 Jan 2014 #38
It also presumes that Utah gays have rights that others do not theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #69
Who is the "Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association?" OldRedneck Jan 2014 #12
if joe arpaio is an example of "america's last hope" we are well and truly screwed. niyad Jan 2014 #23
sadly, he is not the only member. one of my idiot county commisioners is on that list. see a call niyad Jan 2014 #25
Robert Douglas Chief of Police Chiefland/Levy County FL csziggy Jan 2014 #55
this week is the anniversary: niyad Jan 2014 #62
Yes, and as usual, Levy County will ignore it csziggy Jan 2014 #66
Ack, why am I not surprised to see the sheriff of the county I spent most of my childhood in davidpdx Jan 2014 #59
So this is what the the dawn of defacto7 Jan 2014 #45
I think the dawn happened several years ago. it is just getting more obvious every day. niyad Jan 2014 #63
Overall these TBs, conservatives and others who worship them Iliyah Jan 2014 #14
Remember those good old days Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2014 #16
Aren't the police supposed to uphold the law? Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #17
Rights SamKnause Jan 2014 #18
isn't that dereliction of duty or something? conspiracy? mike_c Jan 2014 #19
" The homosexuals are shoving their agenda down our throats," pangaia Jan 2014 #20
''The homosexuals are shoving their agenda down our throats...'' DeSwiss Jan 2014 #26
Holy cow 2naSalit Jan 2014 #31
Yet it's only 15 minutes a day!!! DeSwiss Jan 2014 #34
I know, right? 2naSalit Jan 2014 #36
It probably interrupts either Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune davidpdx Jan 2014 #57
Teh gays should have separate water fountains. nt onehandle Jan 2014 #27
Please proceed... Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #28
What will happen next? (wait for it): RoverSuswade Jan 2014 #30
The difference is RiverNoord Jan 2014 #39
think you are correct niyad Jan 2014 #64
Just when you think we have eradicated that woman from the news cycle she pops up. RoverSuswade Jan 2014 #65
"The homosexuals are shoving their agenda down our throats" Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #33
Now I can point to at least two sheriffs who need to be in jail MNBrewer Jan 2014 #35
Who's forcing whose agenda on who? naturallyselected Jan 2014 #37
An uprising? What century do they live in? Initech Jan 2014 #41
k and r for visibility . "shoving their agenda down our throats". you mean, the way the fundy niyad Jan 2014 #42
I just love the fact that law enforcement is planning on telling legislators how to do their jobs. niyad Jan 2014 #43
shoving the mormon cult agenda down everyone's throats is ok though nt msongs Jan 2014 #44
an uprising of bigotry is called the TEA PARTY Skittles Jan 2014 #46
OK then...time for a MAJOR investigation into the Mormon Cult! SoapBox Jan 2014 #47
I thought law enforcement officers were supposed to uphold the law pokerfan Jan 2014 #48
Laws are so selectively enforced in so many instances bucolic_frolic Jan 2014 #49
Isn't advocating armed insurrection Treason? Nanjing to Seoul Jan 2014 #52
Guess they'll want to call up the KKK and give them the gay target. Black people, Immigrants, RKP5637 Jan 2014 #53
According to Maddow the Utah attorney general forgot to file the paper work to ask for a davidpdx Jan 2014 #58
"The people of Utah have rights, too, not just the homosexuals." merrily Jan 2014 #60
Get the goobermint out of our lives! workinclasszero Jan 2014 #67
Is the gay agenda shaped like a penis or a feeding tube? Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #68
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. What is it with these dumb-asses who don't know what the word "rights" means?
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 07:24 PM
Jan 2014

Not to mention their obsession with the "shoved down our throats" expression.

If this court decision hadn't been reported in the news, they wouldn't even be aware that gay people were getting married now.

Losers.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
32. "their obsession with the "shoved down our throats" expression.'
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:27 PM
Jan 2014

Seems a clear case of envy to me.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
54. In the few functioning brain cells they have, equality means only for them, civil rights
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 12:45 AM
Jan 2014

means only for them, everything only exists for them, these assholes have been around since the beginning of time, I'm convinced it's really a state of how their brains function as opposed to learned behavior. And, change the label, and it's still the same old theme. Persecutory, regressive asshole - haters.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
3. Bunch of nuts with guns and badges
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 07:33 PM
Jan 2014

Not a good combination, and these fools ought to be cashiered promptly.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
51. Bunch of gun nuts
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 11:10 PM
Jan 2014

just being homophobic good ole boys. At night, they put on their white sheets and hoods and pledge allegiance to the Koch Brothers.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,961 posts)
5. Judiciary is one major block against the Tyranny of the Majority.
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 07:36 PM
Jan 2014

A majority can't take away rights of a minority.

If those Sheriffs and Peace Officers marriages are strong, they have nothing to fear from same-sex marriages.

Gay men are not going to steal their wives. (We may assume that they are almost all men.)

If the LEO are secure in their heterosexuality they will not fear being seduced into adultery by gay men.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
6. Why do their "rights" always require telling others what they
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 07:37 PM
Jan 2014

can't do?

Which "right" of theirs is being infringed on?

pepperbear

(5,648 posts)
13. yeah, they actually say that alot. Between that and the whole "Teabagging" thing,
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 08:05 PM
Jan 2014

I don't know where to begin.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
40. It's that old love/hate thing I fear.
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:58 PM
Jan 2014

They just love to hate, but they don't really know what they are talking about.

It's very sad. Gay marriage doesn't change anything unless you are gay.

FraDon

(518 posts)
71. so often from the mouths of those violated themselves as kids
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:34 PM
Jan 2014

so often so hurt, so unheard, so unprotected, so angry.

cvoogt

(949 posts)
9. Last I checked
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 07:48 PM
Jan 2014

the people of Utah are still allowed to get married. What rights might they be talking about?

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
10. If they want to call themselves the "Constitutional"
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 07:48 PM
Jan 2014

Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association they should understand how the system works......

In our country the judiciary interprets the Constitution. The concept of "judicial review" was novel when it was first presented in Marbury v. Madison but it is now settled law in this country.

If a judge issues a ruling that ruling is to be respected. Parties with standing can appeal a ruling or decision of the court but it follows a defined process.

They seem to be under the impression that the majority may exercise tyranny over the minority. That is exactly what our Founding Fathers engineered against. They did it when they established checks and balances. They did if when they enacted the Bill of Rights. They did it when they created a process for amending the Constitution that was long, hard and arduous. They did it when they gave each state two Senators so that the large states could not dominate the small ones.

In this country rights aren't determined by vote. Rights are determined according to our Constitution and the courts through their exercise of judicial review.

If they want to have majority rule suggest they move to Saudi Arabia or Iran. I will help pack their bags.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
11. "The people of Utah have rights, too, not just the homosexuals"
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 07:49 PM
Jan 2014

So there is a difference between "The people of Utah" and "homosexuals"? This assumes that if you are homosexual you are not "people" of Utah. How absurd.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
38. You've got that right.
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:53 PM
Jan 2014

Of course there certainly are no homosexual Mormons, only the fair and delightsome.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
69. It also presumes that Utah gays have rights that others do not
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 12:48 PM
Jan 2014

When, of course, just the opposite is true.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
12. Who is the "Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association?"
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 08:02 PM
Jan 2014

Looks like another rightwing group that is convinced the nation is in trouble and only they can save us.

http://cspoa.org/about/message-from-mack/

From their website:

"46 Anti-American US Senators vote for the UN Gun Control Treaty"

"State sovereignty under attack"

"List of sheriffs and peace officers who say 'No' to Obama gun control"

"CSPOA being used to stop Obamacare"

The CEO (and possibly the only member) has an online store where you can buy a copy of his book: "The County Sheriff: America's Last Hope"


niyad

(113,074 posts)
25. sadly, he is not the only member. one of my idiot county commisioners is on that list. see a call
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:00 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Mon Jan 6, 2014, 12:00 PM - Edit history (1)

is in order to that fool.

(by the way, just found this lovely little video from their 2012 conference. ugh:




CSPOA Council of Sheriffs, Peace Officers and Public Officials

Name Office City/County State

Larry Kirk Chief of Police Old Monroe MO

Dean Wilson Sheriff Del Norte County CA

John D’Agostini Sheriff El Dorado County CA

Jon Lopey Sheriff Siskiyou County CA

Robert Douglas Chief of Police Chiefland/Levy County FL

Cornel Rasor County Comm. Bonner County ID

Brad Rogers Sheriff Elkhart County IN

Chuck Korzenborn Sheriff Kenton County KY

Billy McGee Sheriff Forrest County MS

Christopher Conley Sheriff Carroll County NH

Tony DeMeo Sheriff Nye County NV

Glenn Palmer Sheriff Grant County OR

Gil Gilbertson Sheriff Josephine County OR

Bunny Welsh Sheriff Chester County PA

David Medlin Sheriff Oldham County TX

Jeff Christopher Sheriff Sussex County DE

Peggy Littleton County Commi El Paso CO

Bob Corbell County Comm Greenlee AZ

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
55. Robert Douglas Chief of Police Chiefland/Levy County FL
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 04:49 AM
Jan 2014

Levy County FL is where Rosewood was - before the massacre. It hasn't changed all that much in the 90 years since.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosewood_massacre

niyad

(113,074 posts)
62. this week is the anniversary:
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:05 AM
Jan 2014

Rosewood massacre


A black and white photograph of ashes from a burned building with several people standing nearby; trees in the distance
The remains of Sarah Carrier's house where two blacks and two whites were killed in Rosewood in January 1923

The Rosewood massacre was a violent, racially motivated conflict that took place during the first week of January 1923 in rural Levy County, Florida, United States. At least six blacks and two whites were killed, and the town of Rosewood was abandoned and destroyed in what contemporary news reports characterized as a race riot. Racial disturbances were common during the early 20th century in the United States, reflecting the nation's rapid social changes. Florida had an especially high number of lynchings in the years before the massacre, including the well-publicized Perry race riot where a black man had been burned at the stake in December 1922.

Rosewood was a quiet, primarily black, self-sufficient whistle stop on the Seaboard Air Line Railway. Spurred by unsupported accusations that a white woman in nearby Sumner had been beaten and possibly raped by a black drifter, white men from nearby towns lynched a Rosewood resident. When black citizens defended themselves against further attack, several hundred whites combed the countryside hunting for black people and burned almost every structure in Rosewood. Survivors hid for several days in nearby swamps and were evacuated by train and car to larger towns. Although state and local authorities were aware of the violence, they made no arrests for the activities in Rosewood. The town was abandoned by black residents during the attacks. None ever returned.

Although the rioting was widely reported around the country, few official records documented the event. Survivors, their descendants, and the perpetrators remained silent about Rosewood for decades. Sixty years after the rioting, the story of Rosewood was revived in major media when several journalists covered it in the early 1980s. Survivors and their descendants organized to sue the state for having failed to protect them. In 1993, the Florida Legislature commissioned a report on the events. As a result of the findings, Florida became the first U.S. state to compensate survivors and their descendants for damages incurred because of racial violence. The massacre was the subject of a 1997 film directed by John Singleton. In 2004, the state designated the site of Rosewood as a Florida Heritage Landmark.

. . .

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
59. Ack, why am I not surprised to see the sheriff of the county I spent most of my childhood in
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 07:35 AM
Jan 2014

who are a bunch of rednecks.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
14. Overall these TBs, conservatives and others who worship them
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 08:09 PM
Jan 2014

are extremely violent people and are a menace to the well being and FREEDOMS of America.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,394 posts)
16. Remember those good old days
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 08:15 PM
Jan 2014

when people staged uprisings about civil rights, democracy, equal pay, etc? Today, some people think that the worst thing that can happen in this country is for two people (of the same sex) to be able to enter into a marital relationship! Man the barricades, folks!!!

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
18. Rights
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 08:24 PM
Jan 2014

I will never understand people that react like this.

None of their rights are being diminished, or taken away.

Same gender couples getting married has zero effect on married, or single heterosexuals.

Their irrationality in impenetrable.

The disease is passed from generation to generation.



 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
26. ''The homosexuals are shoving their agenda down our throats...''
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:11 PM
Jan 2014
- The use of such vivid verbiage -- we should watch this guy. That line has future scandal written all over it.

K&R


2naSalit

(86,332 posts)
31. Holy cow
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:26 PM
Jan 2014

that 7:45 - 8:00pm time slot is just the worst thing to happen in Utah!! I'm sure the prophets and saints are constantly in utter turmoil!

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
34. Yet it's only 15 minutes a day!!!
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:32 PM
Jan 2014
- And that's weekdays! And they get to go to bed at 10:00 PM! And they have kids!!! How crazy it that!?!?! It's unpossible!!!!

This must be what you call a ''casual'' gay agenda.....

2naSalit

(86,332 posts)
36. I know, right?
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:43 PM
Jan 2014

Funny how all of a sudden there are gay people living in Salt Lick City!! Like they just suddenly appeared one Halloween night and cast evil spells on the judges and POW, gay marriages are happening against the will of the church, right there in Temple Square!! O.M.G.!!!

And these gays have schedules and children? Only certain people are allowed to do that! And they had better belong to the favored club, no, wait, that's not allowed. And they have these evil magical powers to destroy a hetero marriage in fifteen minutes!!! Oh dear, pretty soon it's cats and dogs living together and, and... Oh, the end is near!

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
28. Please proceed...
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:22 PM
Jan 2014

Go get your guns and get down to the capitol and start threatening to shoot judges and lawmakers.

Please do this and see what happens. I am sure that the government will fall all over itself to meet your demands.

Time for you people to put up or shut up. I, for one, am sick of the whining and crying and empty threats.

RoverSuswade

(641 posts)
30. What will happen next? (wait for it):
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:24 PM
Jan 2014

Miss Sarah Palin will visit the state and headline rallies for the cause.
And you can bet that FOX NEWS will shove coverage of it all "down our throats".

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
39. The difference is
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:53 PM
Jan 2014

that I don't feel the slightest loss of any 'rights' resulting from the fact that I can simply not watch Fox 'news'.

RoverSuswade

(641 posts)
65. Just when you think we have eradicated that woman from the news cycle she pops up.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:30 AM
Jan 2014

About my name - I didn't think anyone would 'get' it.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
33. "The homosexuals are shoving their agenda down our throats"
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:31 PM
Jan 2014

These guys are fixated on the whole "shoving down the throat" thing.

Prolly had someone lie to them at summer camp.

37. Who's forcing whose agenda on who?
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 09:51 PM
Jan 2014

Ignoring the "shoving down our throats" metaphor for a moment, don't they have it exactly backwards? Don't they want "the homosexuals" to follow their agenda, as opposed to what the gay folks of Utah actually want, simply the same right to marry that "the heterosexuals" have?

niyad

(113,074 posts)
42. k and r for visibility . "shoving their agenda down our throats". you mean, the way the fundy
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 10:05 PM
Jan 2014

reichwingers are shoving THEIR agenda up women's vaginas?

niyad

(113,074 posts)
43. I just love the fact that law enforcement is planning on telling legislators how to do their jobs.
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 10:07 PM
Jan 2014

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
47. OK then...time for a MAJOR investigation into the Mormon Cult!
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 10:21 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Sun Jan 5, 2014, 11:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Time to open up all those books and find out exactly how much crooked shit they have been up to!

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
48. I thought law enforcement officers were supposed to uphold the law
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 10:26 PM
Jan 2014
The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association on Saturday organized a meeting in Highland, Utah to call for an uprising and to express their opposition to same-sex marriage in Utah,


bucolic_frolic

(43,058 posts)
49. Laws are so selectively enforced in so many instances
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 10:38 PM
Jan 2014

it's getting to be a joke

What happened to hierarchical order? Chain of command?
Respect for the law, no matter what it is?

Oh, that's only when GWB was in office. Liberal laws don't count.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
53. Guess they'll want to call up the KKK and give them the gay target. Black people, Immigrants,
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 12:39 AM
Jan 2014

Gays, Jewish people, these assholes always have a target. Strip away the labels and it's the same old shit, irrational hatred and persecution of minorities. We use to have to drive through Utah on cross country travel, like some other states, we always did it so few gas or eating stops were required if any.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
58. According to Maddow the Utah attorney general forgot to file the paper work to ask for a
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 07:34 AM
Jan 2014

stay in case they lost. Maybe people should be looking at how incompetent their state government is.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
60. "The people of Utah have rights, too, not just the homosexuals."
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jan 2014

Yes, everyone in Utah now has the right to remain single or marry the person of his or her choice. Until recently, everyone in Utah except homosexuals had that right because people like you had succeeded in forcing your agenda on everyone else.

Unless someone is forcing you to marry a person of your own gender, no one is forcing any agenda on you, now or in the past.

Shut up.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
67. Get the goobermint out of our lives!
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:52 AM
Jan 2014

And put a Federal agent in every bedroom in Merrca to make sure everyone is only doing it the way Joesph Smith did.

I guess thats multiple wives like Joesph Smith who had 7 wife's under the age of 18 and 34 in total!?

Or maybe Brigham Young with his 55 brides???

Are all teabaggers purvs?

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