Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

cal04

(41,505 posts)
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 08:30 PM Mar 2012

First on CNN: Levin says Limbaugh should be dropped from Armed Forces Network

Source: CNN

Sen. Carl Levin, the powerful chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said Wednesday he would like the Armed Forces Network to drop the controversial Rush Limbaugh program from its service that provides radio and television shows to U.S. service members around the world.

"I would hope the people that run it see just how offensive this is and drop it on their own volition," Levin told CNN in an exclusive interview in the Capitol.

(snip)
Levin, a generally liberal Democrat from Michigan whose top spot on Armed Services makes him very influential inside the Pentagon, said he would "love" to see the program dropped, but he doesn't think it should be up to Congress to pass a law to make it happen.

"I think that is probably an issue that should be left to the folks that run that network," he said. "In other words, I'd love to see them drop it but I don't think I'd legislate it."

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/07/first-on-cnn-levin-says-limbaugh-should-be-dropped-from-armed-forces-network/

50 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
First on CNN: Levin says Limbaugh should be dropped from Armed Forces Network (Original Post) cal04 Mar 2012 OP
It should definitely be dropped mercymechap Mar 2012 #1
I sent emails to DoD xtraxritical Mar 2012 #27
Send requests to your Congressmen to have DOD's use of Limbaugh investigated csziggy Mar 2012 #49
Rush should have Iliyah Mar 2012 #2
In 1993 they kicked up a shitstorm to get him on the air bluestateguy Mar 2012 #5
dammit, I didn't know that BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #40
Please tell me this can be done by unilateral executive order (please?) bluestateguy Mar 2012 #3
First you give them the chance to do the correct thing of their own volition. HubertHeaver Mar 2012 #4
Amen. Dr. Matt Mar 2012 #6
Percisely. kenfrequed Mar 2012 #37
They can't touch Limbaugh, yet they CAN defund NPR. kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #7
Things that make you go hmmmm... eh? shcrane71 Mar 2012 #11
!!! Lost-in-FL Mar 2012 #22
Thank YOU Senator Levin! Send thanks for his support! nolabear Mar 2012 #8
Yay. HopeHupes posted links for them. I finally emailed american forces network today duhneece Mar 2012 #9
Took Levin long enough... derby378 Mar 2012 #10
My first thought was: Mark Levin said that -- the world is coming to an end! libinnyandia Mar 2012 #12
Yes he should lovuian Mar 2012 #13
I totallly agree (nt) varelse Mar 2012 #14
Please let it be so Politicub Mar 2012 #15
Kick this right to the top Kingofalldems Mar 2012 #16
Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team) dfhtyjtyj Mar 2012 #17
He is listening to his email! Horse with no Name Mar 2012 #18
Limbaugh should be dropped from Air Forces Transport Xipe Totec Mar 2012 #19
This should be AMERICAN not Armed forces, alp227 Mar 2012 #20
I can't believe an anti-american traitorous, perverted piece of trash like Rush Limpballs is workinclasszero Mar 2012 #21
Never should have been on there. harun Mar 2012 #23
This is the same fat pig who trashed the service members themselves....... Left Coast2020 Mar 2012 #24
When the Chair of the SASC speaks, he's like EF Hutton--DOD listens. MADem Mar 2012 #25
"I don't think I'd legislate it" MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #26
I sure as hell wouldn't flatter that useless bastard JNelson6563 Mar 2012 #36
yep....I wouldn't want it legislated, BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #41
Kill the ads. Tripod Mar 2012 #28
Yes it SHOULD be legislated. Liberty Belle Mar 2012 #29
Agree completely. randome Mar 2012 #38
agree!!!!!! (nt) Tumbulu Mar 2012 #45
Agreed davidthegnome Mar 2012 #30
I agree nxylas Mar 2012 #35
Rush should have been dropped from Armed Services Radio long, long ago. avaistheone1 Mar 2012 #31
How About "Clear Channel Communication" too? As a Military/Right Wing Propaganda organization? Brettongarcia Mar 2012 #32
Rush can't be good for the troops JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2012 #33
Thank you Senator Levin, now PUSH for it nt! sandyj999 Mar 2012 #34
here we are, women's heritage month... on international women's day... deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #39
Now hold a hearing and call in AFRTS so they can answer questions itsrobert Mar 2012 #42
His "support" there could be really small set of dedicated AFN survey takers patrice Mar 2012 #43
"And our next caller is Senator Carl Levin. Good morning, Senator Levin." Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #44
K&R n/t Tx4obama Mar 2012 #46
Waiting for that moral vicar Holy Joe Lieberman to weigh in on this........... yellowcanine Mar 2012 #47
I whole heartedly support CRK7376 Mar 2012 #48
K & R! lonestarnot Mar 2012 #50

mercymechap

(579 posts)
1. It should definitely be dropped
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 08:36 PM
Mar 2012

but I'm not sure the folks that run that network will do it of their own volition. As controversial as Rush Limbaugh is and as nasty as he has gotten since Obama got elected, he's not kept on that network by accident.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
49. Send requests to your Congressmen to have DOD's use of Limbaugh investigated
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:30 PM
Mar 2012

That will cause more waves than writing directly to DOD.

When a military office receives a question from a Congressman or a Senator, it triggers a special reaction... it's like the biggest, squeakiest wheel in the entire USA... it's called a Congressional Inquiry. Military folks don't like those. The more Congressman that call the DoD, the better!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/02/1070289/-The-American-Forces-Network-Are-Taxpayer-Dollars-Funding-Rush-Limbaugh-

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
5. In 1993 they kicked up a shitstorm to get him on the air
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 08:38 PM
Mar 2012

And Clinton caved in, even though there was no evidence that his program was in demand.

Dr. Matt

(3 posts)
6. Amen.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 08:39 PM
Mar 2012

Drugbaugh spends 15 hours a day, 52 weeks a year smearing and defaming the Commander-in-Chief of this Country. He should not be allowed to spew his utter vile trash on the AFN via tax-payers dollars.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
37. Percisely.
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 10:36 AM
Mar 2012

Can you imagine a show on AFRT that is wildly liberal and spends every broadcast ripping on republicans? What if the host of that show had a drug problem? What if the host of that show had a track record of racism and sexism?

Really he never should have been allowed on and he should definitely have his ass knocked back off of it.

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
8. Thank YOU Senator Levin! Send thanks for his support!
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 08:51 PM
Mar 2012

He's gonna need it. If anyone has a friend or relative in the Armed Forces tell them to thank him too.

duhneece

(4,116 posts)
9. Yay. HopeHupes posted links for them. I finally emailed american forces network today
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 08:59 PM
Mar 2012

I included several paragraphs of an article (something like): "US military encourages a culture of rape" and said I couldn't support my daughter or granddaughter's joining the military while Rush was aired on their radio.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
10. Took Levin long enough...
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 09:02 PM
Mar 2012

But honestly, letting the Armed Forces Network program whatever the hell they want without any input from Capitol Hill? That sentiment would never have flown with the previous administration. Scrap Limbaugh from the AFN and be done with it.

libinnyandia

(1,374 posts)
12. My first thought was: Mark Levin said that -- the world is coming to an end!
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 09:32 PM
Mar 2012

Then I saw is was Sen Levin.

alp227

(32,044 posts)
20. This should be AMERICAN not Armed forces,
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:21 PM
Mar 2012

otherwise the website for Armed Forces Network says: "PLEASE NOTE ** AFRN does NOT air Rush Limbaugh!!!. He is on AFN - EUROPE which is operated by AFRTS..."

http://naples.afneurope.net/Radio/PowerNetworkSchedule/tabid/423/Default.aspx

AFN Europe also has the Ed Schultz show on tape delay after Limbaugh and other programs.

Meanwhile here's the radio schedule for the AFN PowerTalk station in the US (damn, i wish this bipartisan format station were available NATIONWIDE)

http://myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/RadioStation.aspx?c=15

0100 Ed Schultz (2nd)
0400 Sean Hannity (2nd)
0700 Thom Hartman (2nd)
1000 Rush Limbaugh (1st)
1300 Ed Schultz (1st)
1600 Sean Hannity (1st)
1900 Thom Hartmann (1st)
2200 Rush Limbaugh (2nd)

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
21. I can't believe an anti-american traitorous, perverted piece of trash like Rush Limpballs is
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:24 PM
Mar 2012

blasted 24/7 directly to our armed service members! The creep hates women, gays and minorities who make up a large part of our armed forces! And pig boy is very vocal about his hatred!

And we tax payers are FORCED to pay for Limpballs nazi propaganda??? BS!!!!

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
24. This is the same fat pig who trashed the service members themselves.......
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:57 PM
Mar 2012

...over some incident in Iraq. Remember? He made some totally disrepectful comment about the troops on AFN and was not yanked then.

So what do we do? Petition the Pentagon to drop his fat ass?

It will be a great day when he is off the air---permently.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
25. When the Chair of the SASC speaks, he's like EF Hutton--DOD listens.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:58 PM
Mar 2012

I think it would be a smart move for DOD to take the decision on their own to just find new programming--maybe more of that music and sports the enlisted personnel are asking for...

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
36. I sure as hell wouldn't flatter that useless bastard
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 10:34 AM
Mar 2012

with legislation. Levin's got enough pull to make this happen without that ego massage for Pig-boy.

Julie

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
41. yep....I wouldn't want it legislated,
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 12:12 PM
Mar 2012

not until after he gets dropped for the clear reason that EVERYBODY HATES HIM!

After that, legislation preventing bloviating, lying hate on the tax-payers' $$$$$ would be just fine.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
29. Yes it SHOULD be legislated.
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 03:05 AM
Mar 2012

It should state that programming on Armed Forces Radio must not be degrading to women. Given the problems of rape in the military and sexual harassment of women, any programming that encourages disrespect for women should not be allowed to spew hateful and harmful messages that foster a disdain for female soldiers. Similarly we should not be tolerating language that is abusive toward minorities or gays. There is no law that says we must allow all sorts of trash on Armed Forces Radio and common sense dictates that anything that undermines morale and order in the military is something we are better off without.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
38. Agree completely.
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 11:00 AM
Mar 2012

It's not a perfect world, which is why we have so many laws that allow for interpretations. What gets broadcast on AFN should be subject to interpretation. I would have no problem with Congress legislating that so long as they left final decisions to military command.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
30. Agreed
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 03:20 AM
Mar 2012

I'd love to see them drop if - but forcing them to drop it via legislation... that's a different barrel of monkeys.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
35. I agree
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 09:35 AM
Mar 2012

Sen. Levin made the right call. Legislating to have it dropped would be government censorship, pure and simple. That's a very dangerous line to cross.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
32. How About "Clear Channel Communication" too? As a Military/Right Wing Propaganda organization?
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 06:42 AM
Mar 2012

The "Clear Channel" radio network was originally based on the AM "clear channels"; AM stations given license for especially powerful and unimpeded signals, for nighttime ... and natioanal emergencies.

The problem has been, that the emergency station designation, tied many stations, to the military, national emergency situations. And gave the whole thing at times a para-military, right-wing cast. Then, when one "Clear Channel" station in San Antonio - WOAI - began setting up? It set up as a conservative, military-oriented network.

And then of course? Ronald Reagan, a former military propaganist, and then Rush Limbaugh appeared. And the marriage made in hell began. As militaristic/patriotic right wing propagandists ... found their megaphone, their media base. In Clear Channel. Followed shortly thereafter, by Fox.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,362 posts)
33. Rush can't be good for the troops
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 06:46 AM
Mar 2012

He encourages misogynists.

He encourages homophobes.

He encourages anti-Muslim sentiment.

I can't help but think he contributes to high numbers of suicides, rapes, and mistreatment of prisoners (and corpses).

He is a plague.

deacon_sephiroth

(731 posts)
39. here we are, women's heritage month... on international women's day...
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 11:24 AM
Mar 2012

if we can't make it happen now...

no, none of that, let's just make it happen.

time for me to send some more emails.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
44. "And our next caller is Senator Carl Levin. Good morning, Senator Levin."
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 01:29 PM
Mar 2012

"Get your fat, ignorant ass off of ARFN, Limbaugh. Or else I'm going to start cooking bacon in the Senate caucus room for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Do you understand what I'm saying here? Do I need to spell it out for you? Either resign on your own, or I'll have you made into a thousand Jimmy Dean Pork Breakfast Patties."

"But, but Senator, that is not right. That is part and parcel of what is wrong in this country today. And I was merely pointing out . . ."

"You heard me, fatso. McConnell already has dibs on your Vienna sausage, but then he always was one who liked little wieners."

*click*

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
47. Waiting for that moral vicar Holy Joe Lieberman to weigh in on this...........
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:01 AM
Mar 2012

We are waiting Joe......Cat got your tongue?

CRK7376

(2,199 posts)
48. I whole heartedly support
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:59 PM
Mar 2012

DROPPING Rush's fat ass off AFN. The sooner the better. I hated it being on and turned off the radio everytime he was on the air.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»First on CNN: Levin says ...