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NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 10:44 AM Mar 2012

Rich-Poor Gap Widest in Republican-Leaning States, Census Shows

Source: Bloomberg via Yahoo

"The gap between the rich and poor in the U.S. is concentrated most heavily across a large swath of the South and was least apparent in the Midwest, according to a Census Bureau report released yesterday.

Six of the 10 counties with the highest income disparity were in Texas, Louisiana, Georgia and South Carolina, all states with Republican governors that usually back the party's presidential candidates.

The report, covering the years 2006-2010, highlights the paradox of the wealth gap as a political issue between voters in so-called red states that tend to vote Republican and blue states that lean Democratic. A 2007 study found that while inequality is more evident in poor states such as Mississippi, voters there largely favor Republican candidates. In wealthier states, they're more likely to back the other major party.

"In a Democratic state like New York, rich people are a little more conservative than the poor people, but they're socially liberal," Andrew Gelman, a Columbia University political scientist and statistician who led that study, said in a telephone interview. "In a state like Texas, the rich aren't really that conflicted."

much more.




Read more: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/rich-poor-gap-widest-republican-050015465.html



Yep - voting against their best interests. It's what Republicans often do!
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Rich-Poor Gap Widest in Republican-Leaning States, Census Shows (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Mar 2012 OP
One correction mackattack Mar 2012 #1
good point NRaleighLiberal Mar 2012 #3
Paul Krugman observed this five years ago Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #2
I'm sure Republicans will sell this as NewJeffCT Mar 2012 #4
Just as Republicans like it treestar Mar 2012 #5
The GOP counts on an ignorant voting base to keep them in power. nanabugg Mar 2012 #6
Agreed Iliyah Mar 2012 #11
We csn't say anything because that would ... ... bayareaboy Mar 2012 #7
The only class warfare is the war that capital (the top 1%) has been waging against everyone TBF Mar 2012 #16
Owners vs. Workers ... a "war" of long-standing. TahitiNut Mar 2012 #19
Nice to see you TN - TBF Mar 2012 #20
Keep voting against their own interests and this is the outcome they recieve. sarcasmo Mar 2012 #8
according to FPI New York State is #1 in income inequality bread_and_roses Mar 2012 #9
Well duh, xtraxritical Mar 2012 #14
Well, as long as gays can't marry nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #10
There was an interesting academic study Proud Public Servant Mar 2012 #12
WHAT? "In a state like Texas, the rich aren't really that conflicted." stuwz Mar 2012 #13
Agree - many libertarians are socially liberal TBF Mar 2012 #17
Well... DUH! AlbertCat Mar 2012 #15
This is how much Republicans miss the Confederacy. They are building a master/slave society. nt onehandle Mar 2012 #18
Shouldn't this be obvious by now? sakabatou Mar 2012 #21
God must be greatly blessing the exceedingly virtuous in these very devout regions tmy236 Mar 2012 #22
It's Hate Radio and Fox "News" Doctor_J Mar 2012 #23
The bubble we live in thanks to the MSM -- specifically Fox News n/t underpants Mar 2012 #24
Dammit, this is just unacceptable. sofa king Mar 2012 #25

Cirque du So-What

(25,907 posts)
2. Paul Krugman observed this five years ago
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 10:55 AM
Mar 2012

in his book The Conscience of a Liberal. Historically, repugs have exploited racial prejudice to dupe the poor in that region into voting against their best interests. For instance, it's hardly remembered today, but Harry Truman attempted to get a national healthcare plan passed, but conservatives scared white folks in the south with stories of black people getting treated in hospitals <gasp> alongside them. Sad to say, the politics of fear works on a large segment of society, and the repugs have taken full advantage.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
4. I'm sure Republicans will sell this as
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:01 AM
Mar 2012

Obama and Democrats targeting poor white people in the South and Midwest with their evul so-shul-izm.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. Just as Republicans like it
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:05 AM
Mar 2012

Including the authoritarian followers on the bottom (so long as those evil brown people are considered even lower).

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
6. The GOP counts on an ignorant voting base to keep them in power.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:24 AM
Mar 2012

That's why they scoff at being educated. Since a lot of their Red State base is ignorant, little can be done to educate them. They will complain about government while standing in a food stamp line, believeing that they deserve food stamps while others do not.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
11. Agreed
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:18 PM
Mar 2012

Thats why they want to totally control who gets educated who doesn't and what they are taught.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
7. We csn't say anything because that would ... ...
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:41 AM
Mar 2012

be class warfare.

I guess the RePUGs figure they have us again.

TBF

(32,000 posts)
16. The only class warfare is the war that capital (the top 1%) has been waging against everyone
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:44 PM
Mar 2012

else. If they figure "they have us" they are sadly mistaken. Some of us are educated and will continue to resist (and lead resistance efforts).

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
19. Owners vs. Workers ... a "war" of long-standing.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 03:02 PM
Mar 2012

What I find most noxious is the hi-jacking of language, most notably the word "entitlement." Ownership itself is the very embodiment of the word entitlement, which refers solely to a power or 'right' conferred by a Title - which is a legal fiction created solely by law (or fiat) and enforced by the state. We are all familiar with the terms "King" and "Prince" and "Baron" (all titles) ... and we're all familiar with a Title to land or real estate, or even our vehicles. What we seem to disconnect on, mentally, is that they're the very things to which we refer when we use the term entitlement. While the use of that term in reference to Social Security is, in fact, technically correct, it's the far more inequitable powers enforced by the State that lend a negative connotation to the term.

Nowhere is this inequity more evident in today's economy than in the "lion's share" (i.e. might makes right) extracted from an enterprise by the "owner" -- or shareholders. Today's S&P500 corporation distributes more than twice as much of its net income to the 'owners' than it does to those by whose labors such income was created. Yes, Virginia, the workers get less than 30% of the wealth they create in today's corporation. (And the NBA players went on strike because their share was less than 50%!!! Imagine that! Organized labor.)


bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
9. according to FPI New York State is #1 in income inequality
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:43 AM
Mar 2012

I don't think the "Blue's" have much to brag about here. Even in the article cited, the author notes:

Still, the gap was also pronounced in large urban areas such as New York County, or Manhattan, which had the highest level of income disparity of any major population center in the U.S. and was third overall.


and we have Gov 1% Cuomo(D) here in NY, of whom it is frequently noted that his positions are often aligned with our R-majority NY Senate.

Anyone trying to make the Ds out as some sort of heros on income inequality has to turn a blind eye to an awful lot of reality.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
14. Well duh,
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:49 PM
Mar 2012

New York city is the worlds most "favored" city. The upper 1% in the entire world gravitate to it as the industrial/cultural mecca of the world. People of modest means find it very difficult to afford to live there, therefor it is not surprising that there is a greater "income gap" there.

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
10. Well, as long as gays can't marry
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:46 AM
Mar 2012

and women have a hard time getting contraception and abortions, it's all good.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
12. There was an interesting academic study
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:35 PM
Mar 2012

of a related phenomenon a few years back: Rich State, Poor State, Red State, Blue State: What’s the Matter with Connecticut? (http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/published/rb_qjps.pdf)

The argument, supported by data, is that rich people vote Republican, but rich states vote Democrat; moreover, voting corralates highly with income in poor states, but not so much in rich states. One obvious conclusion (though I don't think the authors draw it) is that policies that enrich the population as a whole also enhance democracy.

stuwz

(1 post)
13. WHAT? "In a state like Texas, the rich aren't really that conflicted."
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:41 PM
Mar 2012

So the framing we're supposed to assume/accept by this language is that being both fiscally conservative and socially liberal is a conflict????? Not by a long shot!

TBF

(32,000 posts)
17. Agree - many libertarians are socially liberal
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:47 PM
Mar 2012

In fact they can be a real mixed bag. I'm thinking especially of the reactionary new libertarians in the computer industries. They want government kept far away so they can keep using their slave labor to make tons of $$$, which they don't want to be taxed on. Individually, however, they are likely to vary widely as to how they view women's issues, LGBT rights, etc...

Welcome to DU.

tmy236

(7 posts)
22. God must be greatly blessing the exceedingly virtuous in these very devout regions
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 04:48 PM
Mar 2012

It sounds plausable, doesn't it?

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
25. Dammit, this is just unacceptable.
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 11:16 AM
Mar 2012

Let nobody say that I am not among the first and most vitriolic critics of conservatives, but to me this is evidence of what happens when authoritarians use fear and hatred to snooker a wide audience into voting against their own best interests.

These people have clearly been harmed by the disingenuous politics of deception, their state-sponsored ignorance turned against them for the profit of the few. They are being exploited, and while it's true that I have less sympathy for them than other groups that are being exploited by the same interests, they too deserve protection from exploitation, damn them.

How do we prevent the Republicans--and anyone else who dares take that course--from manipulating the electorate through fear and hatred? Is it even possible to do so in a republic?

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