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underpants

(182,866 posts)
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 09:12 AM Feb 2014

More winter! Groundhog Punxsutawney Phil sees shadow

Source: USA Today

Punxsutawney Phil, the world's most famous fuzzy forecaster, popped out of his burrow Sunday morning and predicted six more weeks of winter, much to the disappointment for the crowd gathered at Gobbler's Knob in Pennsylvania.

According to folklore, if it's cloudy when the groundhog emerges, the critter will leave his burrow, signifying that winter will soon end. If it's a sunny day, Phil will supposedly see his shadow and, frightened, retreat back into his burrow, and winter will continue for six more weeks.

An analysis of weather data from the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C., shows that Phil's forecasts are, on average, inaccurate. "The groundhog has shown no talent for predicting the arrival of spring, especially in recent years," according to the center. "Phil's competitor groundhogs across the nation fared no better."

Although Phil is the most famous hog of them all, other prognosticating groundhogs include West Virginia's French Creek Freddie, Georgia's Gen. Beauregard Lee, Ohio's Buckeye Chuck, North Carolina's Sir Wally Wally, Alabama's Smith Lake Jake and New York's Staten Island Chuck (full name: Charles G. Hogg).


Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/02/02/groundhog-day-punxsutawney-phil/5101379/

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More winter! Groundhog Punxsutawney Phil sees shadow (Original Post) underpants Feb 2014 OP
I've had enough Winter, this year, to last me the rest of my life!! Siwsan Feb 2014 #1
No shadow here, it's gray and raining. hobbit709 Feb 2014 #2
I didn't see mine. Wet and cloudy. Solly Mack Feb 2014 #3
This whole tradition is based on German folklore, though there is some meteorology to it. NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #4
:-) underpants Feb 2014 #5
blessed candlemas/imbolc niyad Feb 2014 #20
It has been a strange winter Gothmog Feb 2014 #6
Tell me something I don't already know, Phil. another_liberal Feb 2014 #7
surprised he even would come out -lucky if it's only 6 weeks IMO lunasun Feb 2014 #15
Gray and gloomy here with temp near freezing. Rain, sleet and snow are forecast. Yuck! Arkansas Granny Feb 2014 #8
Farmer's Almanac has been on the money this year, I think... hlthe2b Feb 2014 #9
re:More winter! Groundhog Punxsutawney Phil sees shadow allan01 Feb 2014 #10
truck all this midwest snow away pleeeez!!! lunasun Feb 2014 #16
It's raining here in SF! displacedtexan Feb 2014 #17
Weather says several inches of snow tomorrow here in PA. onehandle Feb 2014 #11
no groundhog had to tell me that heaven05 Feb 2014 #12
So I went to mark the end of winter on my calendar AllyCat Feb 2014 #13
I love how other states try to get in on the groundhog action. TwilightGardener Feb 2014 #14
. jakeXT Feb 2014 #18
This has been an expensive winter for us here in the Texas Hill Country. Rozlee Feb 2014 #19
Living in Maine naturallyselected Feb 2014 #21
Woodchuck recipes James48 Feb 2014 #22
OK, let's not get too drastic with the poor fellow. Beacool Feb 2014 #24
LOL reposted MANY times on FB underpants Feb 2014 #30
If I get my hands on him, I'm going to kick his furry ass!!! Beacool Feb 2014 #23
So more 80 degree days with no rain? itsrobert Feb 2014 #25
Groundhog day - my favorite holiday. olddad56 Feb 2014 #26
the version i grew up with was a glass half full/half empty version. unblock Feb 2014 #27
You know it's bad when all I can say is Lifelong Protester Feb 2014 #28
He has only been right 10 out of 25 years 2pooped2pop Feb 2014 #29
Stick with The Farmer's Almanac, and you can never go wrong,,,,,, benld74 Feb 2014 #31
sigh... alp227 Feb 2014 #32
If he sees his shadow, winter lasts six more weeks; if he doesn't, it's only 42 days..... lastlib Feb 2014 #33
The game is fixed! bpollen Feb 2014 #34

Siwsan

(26,288 posts)
1. I've had enough Winter, this year, to last me the rest of my life!!
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 09:27 AM
Feb 2014

We got another 4 inches, yesterday, and I'm pretty sure we've broken the record. Thankfully, this time the forecast was wrong in the RIGHT direction since they were predicting close to 8 inches.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
4. This whole tradition is based on German folklore, though there is some meteorology to it.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 09:41 AM
Feb 2014

If it's a cloudy day, it's possible that warm humid Gulf air is moving in which signals a move towards the spring climate. If it's bright and sunny, then that means it's likely that the continental polar air mass is firmly in charge and winter will continue.

underpants

(182,866 posts)
5. :-)
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 09:43 AM
Feb 2014

"If Candlemas be fair and bright,

Winter has another flight.

If Candlemas brings clouds and rain,

Winter will not come again."

hlthe2b

(102,337 posts)
9. Farmer's Almanac has been on the money this year, I think...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 10:01 AM
Feb 2014

Phil is still well below 50:50, I think, though he catches a "nut" every now and then..

Feb already starting as a very snowy month for much of the nation.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
10. re:More winter! Groundhog Punxsutawney Phil sees shadow
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 10:31 AM
Feb 2014

not here in california . we are in severe drought . my location is on stage 3 water rationing . could some of u send some of that winter to caifornia please ?

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
11. Weather says several inches of snow tomorrow here in PA.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 11:07 AM
Feb 2014

Don't need a giant rat to tell me winter ain't over.

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AllyCat

(16,215 posts)
13. So I went to mark the end of winter on my calendar
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 11:14 AM
Feb 2014

And counting out six more weeks is SURPRISE! The first day of spring. Whoodda thunk it?

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
19. This has been an expensive winter for us here in the Texas Hill Country.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 12:22 PM
Feb 2014

No snow, but the cold temperature snaps have cost us $2,000 in repairs for the motor of our well and then another few hundred when two pipes on it froze and burst two weeks apart. That has never happened before and it all happened in December and January. That's not even mentioning our energy bills.

21. Living in Maine
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 12:51 PM
Feb 2014

In Maine, six more weeks of winter on February 2 means we'll have an early spring. Isn't this true in much of the country?

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
23. If I get my hands on him, I'm going to kick his furry ass!!!
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 01:47 PM
Feb 2014

I'm already sick of winter!!! We either get snow or horribly cold days. Although this weekend has been great. The Super Bowl folks got lucky (they're playing 20 minutes away from my town).




olddad56

(5,732 posts)
26. Groundhog day - my favorite holiday.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:58 PM
Feb 2014

no gifts to buy, no cards to send, no obnoxious in-laws, almost like a regular day.

unblock

(52,289 posts)
27. the version i grew up with was a glass half full/half empty version.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:09 PM
Feb 2014

depending on whether or not he saw his shadow, either there was 6 more weeks of winter or winter was half over.

i.e., winter was going to last just as long regardless, it was just how you looked at it.

of course, real science geeks know the glass is completely full: half water, half air

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
28. You know it's bad when all I can say is
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:15 PM
Feb 2014

"This weather blows"....I'm usually more articulate than that.


Pull the poor furry rodent out of his cozy warm den for this??

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
29. He has only been right 10 out of 25 years
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:20 PM
Feb 2014

the odds are with us that old man winter is going to run out of snow

lastlib

(23,268 posts)
33. If he sees his shadow, winter lasts six more weeks; if he doesn't, it's only 42 days.....
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 07:03 PM
Feb 2014

Sux either way. Last year, February lasted 84 days, so the damned rodent was off by a factor of two.......more's the pity that the critter ain't worth a damn to eat, or I'd be huntin' him down with dogs.

bpollen

(110 posts)
34. The game is fixed!
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 09:22 PM
Feb 2014

If he sees his shadow, we have 6 more weeks of winter. If he doesn't, we have a month and a half until spring. The calendar says the same thing. Whatever the hell Phil does, winter ends in about 45 days.

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