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alp227

(33,271 posts)
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:14 PM Mar 2014

U.S. anti-poverty programs have failed, Republican Ryan says

Source: Reuters

The U.S. government has barely made a dent in poverty in the past 50 years despite massive spending on programs to aid the poor, House of Representatives Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan said in a report on Monday.

The Wisconsin Republican, a potential presidential contender in 2016, released the report a day before President Barack Obama sends Congress his own annual budget proposals, expected to include several provisions for helping the poor.

By releasing the report, Ryan, a fiscal hawk who was his party's unsuccessful vice-presidential candidate in 2012, appeared to be presenting himself as being more committed to helping poor Americans hoist themselves into the middle class.

He said many of the 92 federal programs aimed at fighting poverty were "haphazard" and ineffective, despite a cost of $799 billion in fiscal 2012.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/03/us-usa-fiscal-ryan-idUSBREA2224V20140303

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U.S. anti-poverty programs have failed, Republican Ryan says (Original Post) alp227 Mar 2014 OP
"helping poor Americans" what? louis-t Mar 2014 #1
Really funny Ryan Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2014 #2
And how many times were they gutted, underfunded or not put into place by Republicans? sakabatou Mar 2014 #3
That is what I was thinking too davidpdx Mar 2014 #19
in other words..."We are doing our best to kill them but.... yourout Mar 2014 #4
UGH Iliyah Mar 2014 #5
Poverty sadly still exists, but PumpkinAle Mar 2014 #6
I agree, so let's try some SERIOUS wealth redistribution instead.... mike_c Mar 2014 #7
Paul Ryan has failed, Jack Rabbit says Jack Rabbit Mar 2014 #8
Spend like it was the military, and see what happens. 1000words Mar 2014 #9
So mr. ryan, safeinOhio Mar 2014 #10
Yeah, he says. His report, on the other hand, says the opposite: DRoseDARs Mar 2014 #11
Lol - From HIS OWN report... jtuck004 Mar 2014 #12
This from a DEADBEAT durablend Mar 2014 #13
What has caused the failure imo is employers not willing to adjust workers wages cstanleytech Mar 2014 #14
With no small thanks to the GOP. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #15
Fuck this asshole. SoapBox Mar 2014 #16
Did he not receive Social Security survivors benefits? jsr Mar 2014 #17
Yes, but now that he doesn't need it anymore he wants to cut it Amonester Mar 2014 #18
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #20
"This program is not good enough" levp Mar 2014 #21
Debunking Ryan is so easy that even Ryan can do it. n/t Orsino Mar 2014 #22
They don't reduce poverty because the poverty rate is bullshit mathematic Mar 2014 #23

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,379 posts)
2. Really funny Ryan
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:20 PM
Mar 2014

Especially when on remembers you went to college on Social Security survivor benefits.

The GOP is the gangplank part. They can benefit from government programs but no on else can.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
19. That is what I was thinking too
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 06:55 AM
Mar 2014

Next time there is one of their wars what will happen if it is defunded? It wouldn't last long.

yourout

(8,803 posts)
4. in other words..."We are doing our best to kill them but....
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:24 PM
Mar 2014

there is still work to be done"

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. UGH
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:27 PM
Mar 2014

Ryan and the rest of the GOPer's GAWD fearing assholes don't give a shit about no one except the 1-2%ers.

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
6. Poverty sadly still exists, but
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:30 PM
Mar 2014

it would be whole lot worse if it wasn't for these programs.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/06/the-war-on-poverty-at-50/


So when is Ryan going to come out against corporate welfare? Is that crickets I hear?

mike_c

(37,045 posts)
7. I agree, so let's try some SERIOUS wealth redistribution instead....
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:41 PM
Mar 2014

I think a 90% tax rate on ANY income over $1 million annually, including corporate income, along with tripling the minimum wage and guaranteeing a living maintenance income to every American citizen, public financing of full higher education, and genuine single payer health care would be a great place to START!

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
12. Lol - From HIS OWN report...
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:48 PM
Mar 2014


"Veterans Health Administration is the largest single-payer health care system in the United States. The report finds that the program is “effective in providing access to inexpensive health care for low-income veterans. ”

The Child Tax Credit provides assistance to families with children. “According to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the CTC protected about 2.9 million people from falling into poverty, including about 1.5 million children,” the report says.

The Earned Income Tax Credit provides cash assistance to low-income working families. Accord to Ryan, the “consensus among studies on the EITC is that it is an effective tool for encouraging and rewarding work among lower-income individuals, particularly single mothers.”

Rural Housing Assistance Grants fund the repair and improvement of rural housing units. The report finds that the grants “allow very low-income elderly homeowners on a fixed budget to remain at home and independent.”

...

More hits here.

That guy would be great managing a telephone sales boiler room, looking for victims...

As a lawmaker, not so hot.

durablend

(9,243 posts)
13. This from a DEADBEAT
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:55 PM
Mar 2014

That works only 1/3 the year (if that).

Any he gets paid for the whole year too!

cstanleytech

(28,454 posts)
14. What has caused the failure imo is employers not willing to adjust workers wages
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:24 PM
Mar 2014

in a timely manner as prices for varies goods like food and gas rise over time.
Walmart and Mcdonalds are prime examples.

Response to alp227 (Original post)

levp

(188 posts)
21. "This program is not good enough"
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:13 AM
Mar 2014

So let's cancel it and replace it with nothing (or more tax breaks for the upper class, or drug war, or...). That'll be much better!

mathematic

(1,610 posts)
23. They don't reduce poverty because the poverty rate is bullshit
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:26 PM
Mar 2014

The poverty rate is a measure of pre-tax income. Virtually all of our anti-poverty programs are after-tax, from the EITC, to food stamps, to section 8. The direct effects of these programs will never ever be reflected in the poverty rate. This is not a problem with anti-poverty programs. It's a problem with the definition of poverty as a pre-tax income condition.

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