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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 11:32 AM Mar 2014

Cosmic inflation: 'Spectacular' discovery hailed

Source: bbc

Scientists say they have extraordinary new evidence to support a Big Bang Theory for the origin of the Universe.

Researchers believe they have found the signal left in the sky by the super-rapid expansion of space that must have occurred just fractions of a second after everything came into being.

It takes the form of a distinctive twist in the oldest light detectable with telescopes.

The work will be scrutinised carefully, but already there is talk of a Nobel.

"This is spectacular," commented Prof Marc Kamionkowski, from Johns Hopkins University.

"I've seen the research; the arguments are persuasive, and the scientists involved are among the most careful and conservative people I know," he told BBC News.

The breakthrough was announced by an American team working on a project known as BICEP2.


Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26605974

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Cosmic inflation: 'Spectacular' discovery hailed (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 OP
Rubbish cosmicone Mar 2014 #1
DAMNIT. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #2
They did Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #3
ROFL! Well Done! 2banon Mar 2014 #10
Are those aliens "undocumented"? nt tblue37 Mar 2014 #37
Because God won't leave the cheese whiz alone. randome Mar 2014 #4
Gotta love the Cheese Whiz expansion theory. longship Mar 2014 #6
It's made from Unicorn tears. nt Javaman Mar 2014 #29
Me too. n/t 2banon Mar 2014 #12
I thought dark energy was the theorized reason for this. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #24
It is, but we don't know why. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #25
True ... Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #27
Wrong. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #5
OMG!!!!!!!! calimary Mar 2014 #19
It is amazing what the collective intelligence of man can come up with cpwm17 Mar 2014 #7
I wonder what the Jesus people think of this? Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #8
The Big Bang was discovered by a Catholic priest bananas Mar 2014 #36
Well, we have another 2 billion years or so to figure it out mountain grammy Mar 2014 #9
Or maybe a decade or two albino65 Mar 2014 #14
Don't forget the Norse horn of armageddon has been blown too. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #15
That reminds me albino65 Mar 2014 #17
Yeah, I read that too.. not very encouraging. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #28
Bookmarked to read later... Thanks JimDandy Mar 2014 #11
AMAZING pix of the Signal from the Big Bang packman Mar 2014 #13
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #16
Quantum indecisiveness. randome Mar 2014 #18
Welcome to DU, bongiver! calimary Mar 2014 #20
This is in reply to the locked post. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2014 #23
I totally agree. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #26
No, the "Big Bang" is the best explanation for how our Universe got here: cpwm17 Mar 2014 #21
Thank You! Duppers Mar 2014 #22
We must figure out how to turn cosmic inflation into a bomb! tclambert Mar 2014 #30
Hilarious! johnp3907 Mar 2014 #32
Visions of General Buck Turgidson... WinstonSmith4740 Mar 2014 #33
That's exactly what I was picturing, too. tclambert Mar 2014 #35
What if our universe *IS* the bomb? hunter Mar 2014 #39
Static universe models fit observational data.... idendoit Mar 2014 #31
I blame cosmic inflation on Obamacare daleo Mar 2014 #34
Made me immediately think of the sign made by Qfwfq in Calvino 's Cosmicomics suffragette Mar 2014 #38

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
2. DAMNIT.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 11:44 AM
Mar 2014

I was hoping they'd come up with why the rate of expansion is accelerating.

Oh well. Someday.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
3. They did
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 11:48 AM
Mar 2014

but the National Security State had to classify it top secret because it would reveal to the evil aliens what we know.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. Because God won't leave the cheese whiz alone.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 11:51 AM
Mar 2014

The Mrs. keeps telling him but you know God, he never listens.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. Gotta love the Cheese Whiz expansion theory.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 11:58 AM
Mar 2014

And god only knows what's actually in Cheese Whiz. So he's got that going for him.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
7. It is amazing what the collective intelligence of man can come up with
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 12:07 PM
Mar 2014

as long as you can weed out the collective stupidity. Requiring an advanced degree in physics or other hard science does much of the weeding. The scientific method does the rest

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
8. I wonder what the Jesus people think of this?
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 12:34 PM
Mar 2014

Of course, they'll still attribute the Big Bang to god.



Yay science! Yay mind of man and woman!

Phil Plait sums this up best here: http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/03/17/evidence_of_inflation_astronomers_detect_gravitational_waves_from_the_early.html

But what does this meant to you? Well, that’s up to you, of course. Most of us can live our daily lives without worrying overly much about gravitational waves, subatomic particles, or what the Universe was like in the tiniest sliver of the first moment of its existence.

But think about that: We can understand what the Universe was like in the tiniest sliver of the first moment of its existence! These aren’t wild guesses, or just-so stories, or fanciful myths. This work is the result of an intense amount of research, the application of math, science, physics, and technology over hundreds of years, the painstaking acquisition of knowledge that must withstand the fires of scientific scrutiny and skepticism to survive. And so far, they have.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
36. The Big Bang was discovered by a Catholic priest
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:56 AM
Mar 2014
Monseigneur Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître, (French: [ʒɔʁʒə ləmɛtʁ] ( listen); 17 July 1894 – 20 June 1966) was a Belgian Roman Catholic priest, astronomer and professor of physics at the Université catholique de Louvain.[1] He was the first person to propose the theory of the expansion of the Universe, widely misattributed to Edwin Hubble.[2][3] He was also the first to derive what is now known as Hubble's law and made the first estimation of what is now called the Hubble constant, which he published in 1927, two years before Hubble's article.[4][5][6][7] Lemaître also proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, which he called his 'hypothesis of the primeval atom'.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre


 

packman

(16,296 posts)
13. AMAZING pix of the Signal from the Big Bang
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 12:57 PM
Mar 2014

Last edited Mon Mar 17, 2014, 01:34 PM - Edit history (1)

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And for the layman, another explanation of the findings:



http://www.nature.com/news/all-you-need-to-know-about-gravitational-waves-1.14886

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randome

(34,845 posts)
18. Quantum indecisiveness.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 01:37 PM
Mar 2014

There's no such thing as 'nothing' ergo, burrrrrp! A universe is born!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)
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calimary

(90,021 posts)
20. Welcome to DU, bongiver!
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 01:43 PM
Mar 2014

Glad you're here. On first glance, I thought - hmmm… some bible-thumper's explanation about why trickle-down really DOES, TOO, make sense!!!

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
23. This is in reply to the locked post.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 02:24 PM
Mar 2014

Since I cannot reply to locked posts, I hope you don't mind the commentary here.

The post shouldn't have been locked. It was an idiotic assertion, in my opinion, but still shouldn't have been locked. This poster didn't personally attack anyone, or otherwise say anything worthy of a lock.

My purpose is not to defend this person who got a post locked, but to bring up a concern. If someone posts something hateful, the post should be removed. If someone posts something stupid and easily refutable by science, we should engage in refutation, not in thread-locking. It should be child's play to swat down a post like the one above without having to resort to using the jury as a litmus test for what constitutes acceptable thought. thank you.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
21. No, the "Big Bang" is the best explanation for how our Universe got here:
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 01:48 PM
Mar 2014

-Our Universe is expanding.

-Scientists predicted that there must be radiation left over from the Big Bang if it had occurred. Scientist then found the Cosmic Background Radiation, just as predicted.

-The percentage helium (compared to hydrogen) that should have been created in the first moments of the Big Bang equals the amount that is actually found in the original matter that still exists in our Universe.

Science makes predictions. So far the Big Bang has stood the test of time.

Science doesn't claim to know what happened before the Big Bang. Some things are just not knowable. It is a cop out to say that it explains nothing if it doesn't explain everything. That really doesn't make any sense.

tclambert

(11,193 posts)
30. We must figure out how to turn cosmic inflation into a bomb!
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 07:18 PM
Mar 2014

What if the Russians get it first? We must not allow a cosmic inflation gap! What if they dropped one on Iowa and inflated it to the size of the whole solar system in a few trillionths of a second? There's no coming back from that.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,436 posts)
33. Visions of General Buck Turgidson...
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 08:59 PM
Mar 2014
We must not allow a cosmic inflation gap!

...dancing in my head!

tclambert

(11,193 posts)
35. That's exactly what I was picturing, too.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 10:00 PM
Mar 2014



The end of this clip has "We must not allo- o-ow a Mineshaft Gap!"

hunter

(40,691 posts)
39. What if our universe *IS* the bomb?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:29 AM
Mar 2014

Imagine two dark matter universes at war, and our universe is a bomb explosion ripping through other.



 

idendoit

(505 posts)
31. Static universe models fit observational data....
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 07:51 PM
Mar 2014

better than expanding universe models.: metaresearch.org/cosmology/BB-top-30.asp . They've 30 evidence based problems with the theory. I especially like: The ages of globular clusters appear older than the universe.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
38. Made me immediately think of the sign made by Qfwfq in Calvino 's Cosmicomics
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:28 AM
Mar 2014

And love the description of it here as a "distinctive twist in the oldest light"

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