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Ha ha ha. Anyone dumb enough to think that Putin supports the right to self-determination geek tragedy Mar 2014 #1
Well said! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #2
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No, he engaged in a land grab, as is obvious to anyone with two brain cells geek tragedy Mar 2014 #5
Yeah, "so much is obvious" .... welcome to DU. MADem Mar 2014 #12
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You don't, apparently, understand the meaning of the word MADem Mar 2014 #22
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putin got rid of their public tv station &'arrested' many of the community leaders. Sunlei Mar 2014 #21
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your angry, substance-free denial of Putin's tyranny is the perfect encapsulation geek tragedy Mar 2014 #27
Oh - go get a show on FOX NEWS and leave us alone, Putin! The Wielding Truth Mar 2014 #4
Free Will? blackspade Mar 2014 #6
He's referring to them not having gerrymandering newfie11 Mar 2014 #7
By the same logic, levp Mar 2014 #8
They are 123% sure they want to join Russia. DetlefK Mar 2014 #9
Yea right. A strong military presence, torn down the Ukraine flag and placed it with a Russian flag Iliyah Mar 2014 #10
What about the free will of LGBT people? Isn't that of the same value? Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #11
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putin is that you? Sunlei Mar 2014 #16
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I knew it was you! Sunlei Mar 2014 #23
Yeah, why didn't they vote to cut their pensions and salaries? grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #14
Nobody has a monopoly on hypocrisy. There's plenty to go around. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #15
Lets ask the Chechens about respect for 'Free Will' nt hack89 Mar 2014 #17
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What about the Georgians? sakabatou Mar 2014 #19
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. Ha ha ha. Anyone dumb enough to think that Putin supports the right to self-determination
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:49 AM
Mar 2014

belongs in the Tea Party.

Putin made it ILLEGAL to advocate for the right of self-determination inside Russia.

As in, if you advocate it on a blog, his thugs will seize you and send you to a prison camp.

http://themoscownews.com/politics/20131230/192136238/Putin-signs-law-criminalizing-calls-to-separatism.html

For him to call others out for hypocrisy, well that's just pathological dishonesty.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
2. Well said! n/t
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:51 AM
Mar 2014

Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. No, he engaged in a land grab, as is obvious to anyone with two brain cells
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:54 AM
Mar 2014

to rub together.

A state that makes it a crime to advocate for the right to self-determination does not care about the right to self-determination.

QED

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. Yeah, "so much is obvious" .... welcome to DU.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 12:00 PM
Mar 2014

Response to MADem (Reply #12)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. You don't, apparently, understand the meaning of the word
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 12:43 PM
Mar 2014

"patronize," because that's not what I am doing at all.

Response to MADem (Reply #22)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
21. putin got rid of their public tv station &'arrested' many of the community leaders.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 12:38 PM
Mar 2014

The people against Putin's invasion are now fearful and silenced.

Response to Sunlei (Reply #21)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
27. your angry, substance-free denial of Putin's tyranny is the perfect encapsulation
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:34 PM
Mar 2014

of the mindset of his defenders

The Wielding Truth

(11,431 posts)
4. Oh - go get a show on FOX NEWS and leave us alone, Putin!
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:53 AM
Mar 2014

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
6. Free Will?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:54 AM
Mar 2014

I don't think that word means what he thinks it means.

On a side note about the referendum. Have any figures been released on the voting? Number of votes vs eligible voters, social breakdowns, etc?

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
7. He's referring to them not having gerrymandering
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:57 AM
Mar 2014

levp

(188 posts)
8. By the same logic,
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:11 AM
Mar 2014

how about Chechnya and Karelia, Mr. Putin?

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
10. Yea right. A strong military presence, torn down the Ukraine flag and placed it with a Russian flag
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:26 AM
Mar 2014

surrounding military bases, blocked ships other than Russians. Free will my ass.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. What about the free will of LGBT people? Isn't that of the same value?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:38 AM
Mar 2014

Talk about hypocrisy.

Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #11)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. putin is that you?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 12:26 PM
Mar 2014

Response to Sunlei (Reply #16)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
23. I knew it was you!
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 12:45 PM
Mar 2014

get ready for sanctions from the EU!

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
14. Yeah, why didn't they vote to cut their pensions and salaries?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 12:12 PM
Mar 2014
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
15. Nobody has a monopoly on hypocrisy. There's plenty to go around.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 12:23 PM
Mar 2014

hack89

(39,181 posts)
17. Lets ask the Chechens about respect for 'Free Will' nt
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 12:28 PM
Mar 2014

Response to hack89 (Reply #17)

sakabatou

(45,657 posts)
19. What about the Georgians?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 12:34 PM
Mar 2014

Did they want you when you invaded?

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