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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:43 PM Mar 2014

16-Year-Old Arrested After Climbing to the Top of 1 World Trade Center

Source: People

A 16-year-old bypassed "inattentive" security in the middle of the night and climbed a ladder to the spire of 1 World Trade Center, the nation's tallest building, where he apparently took pictures, authorities said Thursday.

The boy from Weehawken, N.J., was arrested at 6 a.m. Sunday and charged with misdemeanor criminal trespass.

According to a criminal complaint, the teen was quoted as telling police: "I walked around the construction site and figured out how to access the Freedom Tower rooftop. I found a way up through the scaffolding, climbed onto the 6th floor, and took the elevator up to the 88th floor. I then took the staircase up to 104th (floor). I went to the rooftop and climbed the ladder all the way to the antenna."

He was arrested on the premises, and his camera and cellphone were seized after authorities obtained a search warrant, said Joe Pentagelo, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the trade center site.

Read more: http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20798640,00.html

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16-Year-Old Arrested After Climbing to the Top of 1 World Trade Center (Original Post) IDemo Mar 2014 OP
I don't feel like an arrest is warranted in this. Xyzse Mar 2014 #1
All he had to do is bump the wrong thing and AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #16
I can agree, though I can't help feel that the punishment is excessive. Xyzse Mar 2014 #19
Agreed. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #21
I hope he took a selfie at least. nt. Paolo123 Mar 2014 #2
Sounds like iamthebandfanman Mar 2014 #3
What??? gcomeau Mar 2014 #27
that kid could have been another poor brainwashed religious fanatic going to the top to blow... rpannier Mar 2014 #28
Security ought to hire him as a consultant. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #4
The flaws were pretty evident. former9thward Mar 2014 #11
And to begin with - LiberalElite Mar 2014 #32
+1 jsr Mar 2014 #20
It's a particularly crazy craze Bosonic Mar 2014 #5
how foolish - but also intense and awesome! burfman Mar 2014 #17
I think that's a power cord they're stepping over. JoeyT Mar 2014 #24
tie off's and power cords - ooops - best not to confuse the two....... burfman Mar 2014 #36
I have to throw up now. BodieTown Mar 2014 #31
I just gasped, looking at the still alone... nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #34
They ought to put a medal on the guy for showing how lax the security is rocktivity Mar 2014 #6
Why did they bother to get a search warrant? RufusTFirefly Mar 2014 #7
I would love to see the photos. mahannah Mar 2014 #8
Lax security smitty Mar 2014 #9
Lack of Id? yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #37
He could have Politicalboi Mar 2014 #10
If he had been able to carry 150 tons of jet fuel with him. former9thward Mar 2014 #13
The new Freedom Tower is rated to withstand fire for 3 hours, only. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #14
Heat causes steel to sag and lose strength. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #22
According to Rosie O'Donnell, fire has never melted steel! A big THANK YOU for your last sentence. 7962 Mar 2014 #26
Fires make metal more malleable. JoeyT Mar 2014 #25
next time take a 'chute burfman Mar 2014 #12
Oh the Irony bpj62 Mar 2014 #15
I used to teach this age group elfin Mar 2014 #18
Good to know that the tallest building in the Western Hemisphere is protected by one snoozing guard. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #23
The kid should not be arrested and threatened with jail.give him back his phone and camera! Sunlei Mar 2014 #29
careful iamthebandfanman Mar 2014 #33
The Kid has more guts than I would ever drum up.... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #30
WOw!! mamunwsf Mar 2014 #35
The Port Authority should hire the kid as a security consultant. yellowcanine Mar 2014 #38

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
1. I don't feel like an arrest is warranted in this.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:45 PM
Mar 2014

It isn't as if he has done anything beyond just looking around.

Still, he did break the law, but there are so many worse things out there that get less, and they arrest this guy.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
16. All he had to do is bump the wrong thing and
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:30 PM
Mar 2014

someone down below could have died from falling XYZ debris.

There's a reason it's off limits. Hell, he could have crushed someone with his own body weight if he'd fallen.


(My only objection to the wire-walking feat between the original twin towers: risk to people below)

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
19. I can agree, though I can't help feel that the punishment is excessive.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:38 PM
Mar 2014

I mean, I know you're right, but I feel like, a fine is enough.

Then improve security.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
21. Agreed.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:43 PM
Mar 2014

I do think they over-reacted more than a little, and security is CLEARLY lax.

Guy could have been a suicidal jumper, who would you fine then?

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
3. Sounds like
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:49 PM
Mar 2014

a lot of folks failed at their jobs that night. the kid shouldn't be in trouble, because he shouldn't have ever reached the top to take the pictures in the first place.

the building isn't open. given its past, youd expect higher security.

just think, that kid could have been another poor brainwashed religious fanatic going to the top to blow something up...

if anyone needs punishment, its whatever guards/staff were on duty that night.

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
27. What???
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:56 PM
Mar 2014
"the kid shouldn't be in trouble, because he shouldn't have ever reached the top to take the pictures in the first place."


Yeah, and should we also not get bank robbers in trouble, because they never should have been able to break into the vault??? What kind of reasoning is that? Yeah security should face some kind of reprimand but the kid clearly knew he wasn't supposed to go in there. He did it anyway. There being consequences for that decision is entirely appropriate.

rpannier

(24,336 posts)
28. that kid could have been another poor brainwashed religious fanatic going to the top to blow...
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:44 PM
Mar 2014

and by the logic of your post, the kid still shouldn't go to jail if he survived because it's the guards fault

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
4. Security ought to hire him as a consultant.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:53 PM
Mar 2014

or at least pay him for finding the flaws in their security system.

seriously.

former9thward

(32,068 posts)
11. The flaws were pretty evident.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:20 PM
Mar 2014

They had an elevator operator take him up to the 88 th floor without asking any identification even though it was the middle of the night. After that he walked past another guard who was sleeping and he just took the stairs up the rest of the way.

burfman

(264 posts)
17. how foolish - but also intense and awesome!
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:35 PM
Mar 2014

how foolish - but also intense and awesome! I found it stressful to just watch them climb up the crane at the top of the building without wearing a safety harness (that's what that wire was for that they were stepping over was for I assume). BASE jumping might be a safer thing for them to do instead of that....

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
24. I think that's a power cord they're stepping over.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 03:00 PM
Mar 2014

Whenever they look up, you can see the ratlines over their head that you're supposed to tie off to. Tie off points are almost always going to be overhead, since it decreases your chances of getting tangled in your lanyard and the amount of shock you eat at the end of the fall.

I've been out on cranes, but there is not enough money on the planet to get me on one that far up. When I finally stopped being sick, I do believe they'd have to cut whatever I was holding on to off the crane to get me down, because there would be no force on heaven or earth that could pry my hands loose.

burfman

(264 posts)
36. tie off's and power cords - ooops - best not to confuse the two.......
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:24 AM
Mar 2014

Joey,

Thanks for letting me know it was a power cord they were walking over, didn't know that their were tie's above - makes sense to keep from tripping. I can see that if it had been me up there I might have made a mistake and ended up dangling from the crane only held up by a power cord - how embarrassing in a comically fatal way! I've never been up on the end of a crane - but I can only imagine the strange gentle breezes up there early in the morning and the whole crane gently responding with slight vibrations and movements......makes me a little woozy just imagining it.....

BodieTown

(147 posts)
31. I have to throw up now.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:47 PM
Mar 2014

This, from somebody who has extreme vertigo. I nearly fainted watching this.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
6. They ought to put a medal on the guy for showing how lax the security is
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:56 PM
Mar 2014

Has the Port Authority already forgotten the reason why there is ONLY one World Trade Center when there USED to be two?

But perhaps we shouldn't be too tough on them: thanks to Bridge(t)-Gate, the PA has fallen upon its own share of hard times. With subpoenas flying like snowflakes, they've lost two in top management, the head of its police union has had to go on hiatus, and its chairman is on very thin ice because he's a also lawyer for companies who do business with the PA. Maybe it's time to break them up.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024395877


rocktivity

smitty

(584 posts)
9. Lax security
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:59 PM
Mar 2014

The 16 year old got a ride from an elevator operator despite his lack of and ID, then he slipped by a sleeping guard. Fortunately he was carrying a camera and not something more lethal. If I lived or worked near 1WTC I would feel a little uneasy. The real problem isn't the actions of a teenage boy but the failures of security; I think the new WTC is as big a target as the old one.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
37. Lack of Id?
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 10:23 AM
Mar 2014

Perhaps he doesn't have one. They are not widely used especially for 16 year olds. He could have a driver's license, but many his age do not yet. We cannot allow this to criticize because the Repuglicans will be all over it.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
10. He could have
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:02 PM
Mar 2014

Set it on fire, and it probably would have fallen like the other 3. Those NY fires are so strong.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
14. The new Freedom Tower is rated to withstand fire for 3 hours, only.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:29 PM
Mar 2014

That ought to tell people something about the Twin Towers, but no, it's gotta be some crazy big conspiracy.

Three hours. And the Freedom Tower has concrete pillars that don't sag and weaken in the heat, as easily as steel does.
The new building is far superior to the old towers in this regard, and still, it has a maximum value of 3h to potential destruction in a big enough fire.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
22. Heat causes steel to sag and lose strength.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:53 PM
Mar 2014

Same thing happened in Oakland, on film in front of gawd and everybody. No explosives, no conspiracy, just burning gas creating a great deal of heat.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Tanker-fire-destroys-part-of-MacArthur-Maze-2-2575285.php

It's been thirteen fucking years, you've had plenty of time to read and learn a thing or two. Now knock this shit off, you're embarrassing yourself.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
25. Fires make metal more malleable.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 03:12 PM
Mar 2014

If you've ever watched a blacksmith work, they're heating that metal up because it makes it softer and easier to beat into shape. The temperature of jet fuel (~1700 degrees) is also well above the point required to alter the crystalline structure of the steel to change it into a weaker form of steel.

burfman

(264 posts)
12. next time take a 'chute
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:24 PM
Mar 2014

If only he come prepared with a parachute - not only would he have avoided arrest but he would have had better pictures on his cell phone.

bpj62

(999 posts)
15. Oh the Irony
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:29 PM
Mar 2014

This is the same Port Authority Police that efficiently managed the shut down of the Fort Lee Lanes at the George Washington Bridge. Can Chris Christies day get any worse. I live in Virginia and you can't get near the Pentagon Memorial without going through 2 to 3 checkpoints that are managed by either the Pentagon Police or the military. Wonder what the head of the Port Authority Police Union will have to say about this. They are going to whack this kid because he made them look stupid.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
18. I used to teach this age group
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:36 PM
Mar 2014

The boys were just beginning to catch up to the girls in maturation and were often so dear and so hilarious as they tested their new supply of testosterone to show off.

And sometimes they were so reckless that they got into serious trouble or worse, dead.

This escapade makes me laugh, then frightened. That young man could have been killed by security, if it had not been caught napping. DeBlasio should give him a stern lecture and then hire him for a summer job of pointing out security flaws elsewhere.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
23. Good to know that the tallest building in the Western Hemisphere is protected by one snoozing guard.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:55 PM
Mar 2014

This kid did everyone a favor by exposing the lack of security. Fortunately he was not a terrorist but he could have been.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
29. The kid should not be arrested and threatened with jail.give him back his phone and camera!
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:57 PM
Mar 2014

They need to hire this child to review security on the 'most secure building in the world"

yuiyoshida

(41,853 posts)
30. The Kid has more guts than I would ever drum up....
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:03 PM
Mar 2014

I hate Heights ... but I have been able to be comfortable on Airplanes before. Still.. yikes!!

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
38. The Port Authority should hire the kid as a security consultant.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 10:32 AM
Mar 2014

Seriously, he could probably give them some good advice on how to secure the site.

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