Reports of a Shooting on Fort Hood

[n2doc]

Source: KCEN

(KCEN) -- We have reports of an active shooter on Fort Hood.

We have reports that there are several injuries from this shooting. There is at least one patient being transported to the hospital.

We are also getting reports of victims in the Battle Simulation Center on 65th and Warehouse.

The suspect is still at large. The shooter was said to be in building 33026 which is the Medical Brigade Building.

Read more: http://www.kcentv.com/story/25146842/reports-of-shooting-on-fort-hood

[alfredo]

1. More guns make us safer.

[pipoman]

3. You know this is an army base, no?

[alfredo]

5. Yes, I lived on an army base for four years.

[pipoman]

7. Then you know that it is effectively a gun free zone...

[Hoyt]

27. MPs, entrance guards, etc. Plenty of folks with guns. Please, no NRA bull.

[Shemp Howard]

37. What are you saying?

Certainly the MP's and entrance guards are armed. Do you think the MP's and entrance guards should be unarmed?

[Hoyt]

41. No, the gun fanciers try to say criminals go after gun free zones, so

all areas should be open for gun toting yahoos.

If you are partial to gunz, you've probably posted such crud.

[Shemp Howard]

68. I now see what you meant.

Last edited Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Makes sense.

Edit: On further thought, I'm not so sure. The guards at the gate and the MP's are certainly well-armed. But what about once you get past the gates and deep into the base. Those probably are "gun-free" zones.

[warrant46]

36. They don't want to hear that

(the Truth) On all posts weapons are not allowed on Post or in Quarters. It was probably an armed Military cop who went nuts

[Jgarrick]

45. From Fort Hood's website:

http://www.hood.army.mil/dhr/forms/fhform190-19.pdf

11. The Texas Concealed Handgun Law does not apply on Fort Hood. Concealed handguns are prohibited on Fort Hood.

All official firearms are unloaded and locked away in vaults.

[warrant46]

51. Yup

That's how it is on all Military Posts. No one straps up on a Mil Res. except the MPs. I guess the story will come out and then the whiners will appear.

[pipoman]

50. Most posts it would be pretty easy to bring one on

But the implication that because of the association between the army and guns that this shouldn't happen there or should be easily stopped is incorrect.

[warrant46]

52. Yes and mental illness runs Rampant

And sometimes Cops go crazy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crandon,_Wisconsin_shooting

Tyler Peterson, who was a full-time deputy in the Forest County Sheriff's Department and a part-time officer at the Crandon Police Department, shot and killed six people and critically injured a seventh before committing suicide.One of the victims, 18-year-old Jordanne Michele Murray, was Peterson's former girlfriend, and it was believed the dispute within the apartment motivated the shooting.

This Clown used his Department issued AR-15 with several thirty round Police Magazines to OFF his former girlfriend and her friends.

[alfredo]

61. Some else also mentioned that. Even if they had access to guns, a sneak attack

gives the aggressor a big advantage.

Thinking back on how drunk and rowdy we were in Co A, I'm not too sure I'd want ready access to weapons in the barracks.

[MosheFeingold]

4. Gun Free Zone

Actually, military bases are gun free, except for guards/MPs, unless something has changed.

[alfredo]

8. True, but it seems Ft Hood would have enhanced security because

ofbecause of its recent history.

[madville]

43. I frequent military bases on a weekly basis

All the ones I go to have strict "no firearms or weapons allowed" policies.

Of course if the shooter was a military member, on a typical day they just get waves through the gate in their vehicle, usually after a glance at their ID card.

Even though it's against the law to take a firearm on there, not really any way to stop one from doing it.

[alfredo]

64. I remember guys would bring in everything from pounds of weed, to hookers hidden in the trunk.

[Bosonic]

2. Fort Hood shooting: At least 1 dead; shelter in place in effect

FORT HOOD (WTVR) — There are reports of a shooting at at a medical support building at Fort Hood in Texas Wednesday afternoon.

Fort Hood tweeted that all personnel on post were asked to shelter in place after an incident at 5:30 p.m. EST.

CNN reported that an “incident” was under way at the sprawling central Texas base, a spokesman said.

Chris Haug declined to provide additional information, pending the release of a formal statement. A local sheriff’s office said that it had heard a shooting was taking place.

http://wtvr.com/2014/04/02/fort-hood-shooting/

[JimDandy]

21. The shooter is definitely dead.

No word yet on the condition of the victims.

[LanternWaste]

6. Bse on lock-down. Four confirmed injured.

Fort Hood on lock-down All base personnel instructed to find shelter and stay there. Four people injured. Happened on post in a motor pool area. Three people hit there, four people confirmed wounded total (as far as is know)


(as per CBS DFW affiliate)

[LanternWaste]

9. Waco police confirm active shooter. One confirmed dead. 4 wounded. CBS affilate nt

[LanternWaste]

11. Gunman still on loose

Spokesman confirms active shooter situation still in place. Developed over the last hour. (CBS main). No more details at this time.

[maddezmom]

10. KHOU reporting 8 being transported to hospital

[alp227]

12. More reports from various Texas media

Houston Chronicle

Waco Tribune

Dallas Morning News

Austin American-Statesman

[Blue_Tires]

13. KCEN -- 2 shooters, 8 injured, 1 deceased...

Ironically the early news reports for the first Fort Hood incident claimed there were multiple shooters, too

[riverwalker]

14. one in custody

seeking second
live coverage
http://www.kcentv.com/story/25146842/reports-of-shooting-on-fort-hood

[riverwalker]

17. Tyler on scene is riveting

http://www.kcentv.com/story/25146842/reports-of-shooting-on-fort-hood

[riverwalker]

18. swat escorted people out of building

two heavy armoured vehicles and men with automatic weapons escorted the line of people including children, one vehicle on each side moving slowly (like a shield) to a safe area.

(sounded like shooter still in building)

per Tyler live at scene

[alsame]

15. Still active, per CNN. nt

[KeepItReal]

16. Base announcements advise shelter in place and turn off heating and ventilation

Watching feed on local station.

[alsame]

19. 1 shooter may be dead, not sure if there is

a second. Multiple injuries.

CNN just backtracked, not sure if the dead person is the shooter or not, they are getting conflicting reports.

Maybe they should wait until they have the facts before making such statements

[Purveyor]

20. CNN reporting 15 injured with degree of injuries unknown.

[svpadgham]

22. My local news reported the shooter killed himself.

I live in the Killeen/ Ft. Hood region.

[etherealtruth]

47. Thank you!

[rdking647]

23. i just got a message from a friend at ft hood

only 1 suspected shooter who is dead.

[AngryAmish]

24. Another teabagger, I bet.

[X_Digger]

25. Just like Hasan, eh?

Oh wait. That was a silly thing to say. And I notice you made the same four word response to another thread on the same event.

[840high]

28. Jumping to conclusions can be assinine.

[AngryAmish]

38. Horseshit.

It is always those types.

[Jgarrick]

44. Nidal Hasan was a teabagger?

[KoKo]

57. Had to do a

with that...

[blueridge3210]

60. Shhh....you'll only make him angry..........oops, too late.

Seriously, where do they get this stuff?

[wall_dish]

54. Horseshit.

Maj. Nadal Hassan was not a teabagger.

[840high]

71. here it is

dead including the shooter
14 injured conditions range from stable to critical
Spc Ivan Lopez who was a truck driver so he worked
in the motor pool.

[chillfactor]

26. you are behind the news...n/t

[alsame]

29. 4 dead, including shooter. At least 14

injured.

Ivan Lopez is believed to be the name of the shooter, not yet confirmed.

All per CNN.

[AverageJoe90]

30. Damn, man.

At least it doesn't seem to be connected to the '09 shooting, though. My condolences to the victims and their families.

[maddezmom]

33. CNN saying it was a soldier on soldier incident, not an act of terrorism

[AverageJoe90]

35. I suspected that might have been true from the beginning, TBH.

And it looks like that was indeed the case.

[caseymoz]

39. Excuse my cynicism . . .

. . . but I have to comment that likely just means the shooter is white.

[pipoman]

66. Hispanic possibly. .

[840high]

70. That's what I heard on my news.

[pipoman]

67. Some COs and peers are ruthless

On some people. It can be very much like grade school bullying.

[moondust]

31. Looks like less than a mile

from the site of the Hasan shooting.

[Enrique]

32. you can't fight in here

this is the Battle Simulation Center.

[flying rabbit]

53. Heh

[DesertDiamond]

34. Fort Hood AGAIN?

[amandabeech]

40. Barbara Star on CNN just now. Multiple fatalities and injuries.

Star is their long-time chief Pentagon correspondent.

This sounds very nasty.

[amandabeech]

42. Jim M. on NBC. Argument in the motor pool.

Shooter was Ivan Lopez, 34 years old. Enlisted. The shooter is dead.

[TXPaganBanker]

46. Wha... what?

I have to say, if someone can walk into a FUCKING MILITARY BASE, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY HAD A SHOOTER AND HAS A PLAN IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH ONE, if he can come in and shoot the place up, a place where *everyone*, all 41,000 people on base are trained in how to use firearms, yet the bullet that stopped him came out of his OWN GUN, why do we think guns in schools are going to make them safer?

OH YES, AND A MILITARY BASE IS DESIGNED SO IF SOMEONE, ANYONE, SHOOTS AT THEM, THEY CAN SHOOT BACK. IT'S THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT.

[sarisataka]

56. If you wish to be educated on military bases and procedures

feel free to ask. From your post you are seriously misinformed.

[Jgarrick]

58. How many of those 41,000 people do you think were armed?

http://www.hood.army.mil/dhr/forms/fhform190-19.pdf

11. The Texas Concealed Handgun Law does not apply on Fort Hood. Concealed handguns are prohibited on Fort Hood.

All official firearms are unloaded and locked away in vaults.

[wall_dish]

59. You, apparently, know nothing about security on military bases.

[X_Digger]

62. If you have military / mil contractor ID, entry to a base usually consists of glancing at your ID.

What, you think that everyone gets a pat down and car search on entry?

Ft. Hood is a city within a city- a 340 square mile, 50,000 person city. There are retail stores, restaurants, a bank or two, even an auto parts store inside the base.

The only guns with bullets on base (that are allowed) are at the gates or on the base firing range. (And those are tightly controlled.)

[pipoman]

65. No, the poster thinks/thought everyone on post is armed..

[TXPaganBanker]

73. No...

The poster thinks that everyone *should* be armed, or have reasonably fast access to a defensive weapon.

I have two brothers and a sister in the military (Navy, Marines and Army), and I wrote it when I was upset and worried about them. I think a shout of "Shooter on base!" should immediately be answered by concentrated rifle fire.

I realize that access is severely restricted (usually only in the armory or firing range unless you're an MP), and that not everyone should have immediate access to firearms while on base.

However, I also am concerned that the official procedure for a shooter on base is lock down, improvise a weapon, and attempt an ambush if they enter your threat zone. We spend over six hundred billion dollar on the military. They need to have something more effective than a chair leg or a crow bar if someone is a threat.

[pipoman]

74. My son spent 4 in the Marines

He still lives less than a mile from the south gate of Pendleton and has many friends still in. I may have agreed 15 years ago. Now half of the base suffers from PTSD, there is more fighting, divorce, etc. I don't believe PTSD should preclude someone from owning a gun, when you get that many people together with PTSD it changes the dynamic and makes it more volatile, imo.

[mimi85]

48. ENOUGH!

I can't take it anymore. When will we ever learn?

[Jgarrick]

55. We won't. Murder is endemic to the human condition.

[mimi85]

63. Sadly you're right. :(

[littlewolf]

49. per cnn

4 dead including the shooter
14 injured conditions range from stable to critical
Spc Ivan Lopez who was a truck driver so he worked
in the motor pool.

[riverwalker]

69. sad

SPC Ivan Lopez was part of the Wounded Warriors Brigade, was married, returned from deployment in Feb. Raised in Arizona.

[MzShellG]

72. The guy mustve snapped like the soldier on Full Metal Jacket.....

The one that the drill sergeant called Gomer Pyle. Sad situation for all involved.