Trayvon's Girlfriend Recalls Final Conversation Before Shooting ("What Are You Following Me For?")

[Hissyspit]

Source: ABC News

Martin’s girlfriend recalls final conversation before shooting

By Andrew Jones
Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:25 EDT
 
Trayvon Martin’s girlfriend told ABC News late Monday night her final phone conversation with him before he was shot dead by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman.

The girl, whose parents requested not to make her name public, was questioned by the Martin family’s attorney Benjamin Crump and described that her boyfriend was cornered by Zimmerman.

“He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on,” she said. “He said he lost the man. I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run.”

“Trayvon said, ‘What, are you following me for.’ And the man said, ‘What are you doing here.’ Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again and he didn’t answer the phone.”


Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/20/trayon-martins-girlfriend-recalls-final-conversation-before-shooting/

[maddezmom]

1. so sad

Zimmerman was stalking Martin.

[DallasNE]

24. Even Before This Blockbuster News

We had Zimmerman on tape griping that "these a$$holes always get away" which suggests that Zimmerman wasn't about to let Martin "get away". That is why he ignored the dispatchers warning not to follow Martin.

[Vanje]

2. Murder

Hate Crime

[Pachamama]

21. 1st Degree and Pre-meditated....

That poor kid....killed in cold blood by a racist stalker...I dont think Trayvon ever had a chance of getting out of there alive....

[Kablooie]

59. And the police say theres no evidence of a crime.

WTF!?

[Little Star]

3. The killing of Trayvon Martin is heartbreaking...

Zimmerman targeted & killed Trayvon because he was black, period. I hope Trayvon's family can get the justice they deserve. It just breaks my heart that this young person is dead.

[NeverEnuff]

4. Future reference

If Zimmerman's defense is successful there are many who I need to defend myself from.

[slackmaster]

5. You are admitting on a public forum that you would lower yourself to his level?

Not a smart thing to do, IMO.

[ret5hd]

17. You are claiming on a public forum that Zimmerman was acting in defence?

Not a logical conclusion, IMO.

[slackmaster]

18. I challenge you to find ANY post where I have expressed that opinion.

You can't, because I haven't.

[ret5hd]

19. If NeverEnuff defends himself, and in doing so lowers himself to some level...

who's level is he lowering himself to? Zimmermans or Trevors?

If Zimmerman, (and keeping in mind that NeverEnuff is stating that he would defend himself) then I would logically understand you to be saying that Zimmerman was defending himself.

If Trevor, I really don't understand what you are saying. NeverEnuff (in defending himself) would be lowering himself to the level of a kid who got killed by an armed man? I don't get it.

So which is it?

[slackmaster]

25. Zimmerman's, of course. It's a tactic made famous by the KKK.

If Zimmerman, (and keeping in mind that NeverEnuff is stating that he would defend himself) then I would logically understand you to be saying that Zimmerman was defending himself.

Logic FAIL.

It appears that Zimmerman engineered a "fight" in which he had a clear advantage, won it by shooting Trayvon Martin, then claimed self-defense. He didn't really defend himself. He intentionally attacked and killed someone, and is trying to exploit the presumption of innocence to get away with it.

It's how Klan members have gotten away with murder. I think it's foolish for NeverEnuff to post on the Internet, which is forever, that he would do something like that.

So which is it?

I think you're being obtuse, ret5hd.

[dmr]

36. I understood what you met, & am sure others did, too.

[X_Digger]

48. Ignore it, just someone looking to score points with feigned misinterpretation. n/t

[joshcryer]

42. What the? Hard to see how you got that from what they wrote.

They were clearly indicating that the poster was wrong to admit on a public forum that they would use the 'Zimmerman-loophole' to murder someone.

[The Stranger]

28. I (for one) am curious about this "lowering of levels"

Where are the levels and how does one keep track?

[slackmaster]

30. If reply #25 isn't clear enough for you, then I believe you and I cannot communicate effectively

HTH

[xtraxritical]

27. I understand what you're saying

you are probably "of color" and would be seriously afraid if Z wins his self defense argument. You would be defending yourself from the many Z's the decision would create. I hope that's what you mean.

[allan01]

6. re:Trayvon's Girlfriend Recalls Final Conversation Before Shooting ("What Are You Following Me For?"

The police in the late 1800s were and soley to protect the rich from the rest of us . Plain and simple. Protect and serve . bah.

[Blue_Tires]

7. The ONLY question left now is why isn't a warrant out for Zimmerman's arrest

and I better not hear some bullshit that he's fled to the islands somewhere and no one can find him...

[Alcibiades]

8. Here's my take ont he Transcript of the first call

Zimmerman: "...This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something."
How could he make that determination?
Zimmerman: "It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about."
Oooh. That's really odd. Walking around, looking about. Probably some sort of criminal, because all criminals love to walk around and commit crimes in the rain.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy is he white, black, or Hispanic?
WTF? Really? What about Asians? Native Americans? How can you even tell if someone is Hispanic just by looking at them? And why is the very first thing the dispatcher does to make it a racial thing?
Zimmerman: Now he's just staring at me.
Yeah, of course he's staring at you. He's probably a little freaked out that some sketchy guy with a gun is stalking him.
Zimmerman: He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.
Because you can never point out enough that someone is black.
Zimmerman: Somethings wrong with him. Yup, he's coming to check me out, he's got something in his hands, I don't know what his deal is.
Of course there's something wroing with him! He probably senses you are up to no good! Oh, and by the way, what he has in his hands is a can of iced tea and some skittles. Just because you carry a gun everywhere doesn't mean everyone does, freak.
Zimmerman: Shit he's running.
Of course he's running! A man with a gun is stalking him! You'd run too.
How much more could Treyvon have done to avoid this confrontation? Here he is, literally running from an armed man. If Zimmerman really didn't bear any intent to harm him, this would have eneded there.
Zimmerman: The back entrance...fucking [unintelligible]
Actually, he says "coons." I'm pretty sure it's meant as a racial slur here.
Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah
Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.
But Zimmerman goes ahead and keeps on doing it.
Dispatcher: What's your apartment number?
Zimmerman: It's a home it's 1950, oh crap I don't want to give it all out, I don't know where this kid is.
Wait, why wouldn't you want to give your address to the police, I had thought you were calling because you were concerned about crime near your home? Oh, wait, thatt's right, you now have the notion to stalk and kill a boy, and you would prefer to remain anonymous.
Dispatcher: Okay do you want to just meet with them right near the mailboxes then?
Zimmerman: Yeah that's fine.
Dispatcher: Alright George, I'll let them know to meet you around there okay?
Zimmerman: Actually could you have them call me and I'll tell them where I'm at?
Sure, because he's not going to go to the mailboxes. He's still stalking the boy he plans to kill, so he cannot go to the mailboxes. He doesn't want to admit that he's doing that, though.

[Stuckinthebush]

10. Mark my words

one of the points of his defense will be that the dispatcher did not tell him to STOP following the guy, but told him that they didn't need him to do that. In this way he will claim that he wasn't ordered to stop by the authorities.

If this guy gets off I'll be sick.

[SunSeeker]

20. Zimmerman understood they were asking him to stop, that's why he said, "ok."

Dispatcher: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah
Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.
Zimmerman: Ok

Why say "ok" if you think the cops are just opining in the abstract about his options? He said ok to get the dispatcher off his back so he could go right on stalking, because, as he told the dispatcher, "they always get away." Gee, wonder what "they" he was referring to?

It's murder. And a hate crime.

[LisaL]

37. Of course he understood it.

What is there not to understand?

[Hissyspit]

22. It sounds more like he is saying "punks"

to me at this point insteads of "coons," but the truth of the matter is it is really hard to tell.

[yardwork]

33. It doesn't matter, imo. It's clear that Zimmerman targeted Trayvon because of the way he looked.

The racism is inherent in everything that Zimmerman said and did, up to and including murdering the child while he cried for his life.

If Zimmerman used a racial slur it would just be one more piece of evidence. We already have enough. The only people who seem to have a problem understanding what happened are the Sanford police force.

[Hissyspit]

44. Well, I agree with all that.

He should be on trial. This is the result of NRA/Florida Rethugs' garbage legislation.

But I've listened about 40 times on headphones. It sounds like "punks" to me.

[yardwork]

49. I believe you. I don't think that somebody the age of George Zimmerman would use that slur.

It's an old-fashioned phrase that is more commonly used by an older generation, I think. It doesn't sound like something a 28 year old would say. He probably did say punks. He meant the same thing.

[Alcibiades]

56. It does sound like "coons" to me

I can see how you might get "goons," but it really sounds like "coons" to me. It's an odd choice of words, of course, because that slur's seldom used anymore, but it makes sense that it's whispered--almost everything he does in the tape seems calculated. In this instance, he might be whispering because he wants the dispacher to hear but not to have it clear on the audiotape.

Anyway, it has been looped for your listening pleasure.

http://axiomamnesia.com/Audio/Zimmerman911Calls/George-Zimmerman-Treyvon-Martin-Coons-911-Call.mp3

[Hissyspit]

60. Sounds like "punks" to me there more than ever.

[X_Digger]

62. Ditto..

'Fawkin Pawnks' would be my phonetic transcription of that.

[Brickbat]

31. When he says "Have them call me," that shows to me he knows that these calls are recorded, and if

police call him on their cell phones, those calls aren't monitored.

[Alcibiades]

57. Good point

Though he also wants them to call because he has no intention of meeting at the mailboxes, as he plans to be stalking and killing at that point.

[yardwork]

34. That's an interesting suggestion about Zimmerman wanting them to call him back.

I also note the dispather calling him George. Zimmerman had called 911 46 times in the past year. The dispatchers knew him well. None of those calls seem to have resulted in any charges, though. In other words, the calls were all crank calls about nothing. This time "George" had to make sure that something came of his call.

[sabrina 1]

39. Actually on the tape, the dispatcher asks him his name. He said 'George'.

The question that's been bothering me is why did the police not come right after that call?

Or what was the time-frame from that call to the time of the shooting? From other reports the police came finally in response to the calls from witnesses after the shooting.

Another question. What happened to the cell phone? Apparently, from one report I read, the teenager's body was sent to the morgue as a 'John Doe'. But if police had his cell phone they could have easily identified him. When did they call his family?

[yardwork]

40. I wonder if the police were used to ignoring George's calls to 911.

Some of the pieces of information I'd like to have include your questions, plus how the other 45 calls George Zimmerman made to 911 in the past 14 months were handled. Did the police respond to each of them? Did any result in any arrests or even any suspicion of truly illegal activity? How common is it for a self-appointed neighborhood watch vigilante type to call 911 this often, and how do most police forces deal with people like that?

Mostly, I would like to know a lot more about George Zimmerman's relationship with the local police force, and also, his relationship with his homeowner's association.

[sabrina 1]

46. Yes, like most stories like this which get a lot of media attention, there are often

so many questions that are not answered in the initial reporting.

If he was becoming a nuisance, they might not have rushed to answer his every call, however they do have to respond when they get a call.

I read somewhere that the time from when he called them to when they got there (and I'm not sure if the cops who did get there were responding only to the several eyewitness calls or if they were the same cops who would have been responding to his call anyhow) was approx. 20 minutes.

From the latest reports it's hard to tell if he was in the car when he called the police, and if when he told them he was following the 'suspect' whether he was driving or on foot. It's important because if the cops got there 20 minutes after the call from him, what was he doing during that time? Was he walking or driving when he followed him? Now we know that the teenager told his girlfriend he was walking fast, apparently trying to get away from Zimmerman. She told him to run.

And did he have the gun on him or was it in the car and he went back to get it. I wonder where the car was when the cops got there. That would tell something about how far he had walked before the shooting.

They claim to have investigated the crime. They surely asked all these questions, and they must have found the cell phone.

[yardwork]

47. I don't believe that the police investigated at all. They took Zimmerman's word for what happened.

The police interviewed a few people, "corrected" their stories by telling them that they were wrong about what they saw and heard, and obviously didn't interview a bunch of key people, like Trayvon's girlfriend, who would have been the last call on this cell phone. In fact, the police don't seem to have bothered to even listen to the 911 calls before they released them.

[sabrina 1]

55. Unbelievable, I cannot believe they did not check the cell phone and talk to his girl-friend.

I wondered about that, because what she has to say completely demolishes Zimmerman's claim that he was the victim. It is clear evidence that he was the stalker, the aggressor. Of course if they did not check the cell phone and talk to her? This is incredible. Way worse than it seemed at first, and it was bad even then.

[csziggy]

50. The police NEVER checked the cell phone and NEVER called the family

The family reported Trayvon as a missing person and it was only then that the police connected them with their 'John Doe'. Even though the father had called the morning after Trayvon was killed to try to locate his son, the police did not tell him they had an unidentified body that might have been his son.

For the time line, check out the Sanford website: http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html

On the front page is a link to the consolidated information on the Trayvon Martin "investigation". Included are the initial police reports, old phone calls from Zimmerman, notices from the police, and the 911 calls.

[sabrina 1]

54. That is truly disgraceful. I thought I had read that he was not identified for a while, but it seeme

too outrageous to be true, especially considering he was killed so close to his father's home.

I didn't know he had a cell phone until yesterday so that made me wonder, how could they NOT have identified him if he had a cell phone?

More and more this is looking like a standard, police cover-up. And I just heard that the guy in charge of this case let another guy who beat up a homeless person, go without charges last year. I remember that case.

There are no words, really. That poor family. First to lose a precious child, but then to have to endure the fact that those in authority placed no value on his life. I've been in that position, and I can say with certainty that when that happens, the pain of the loss is doubled, it's hard to explain. But it's like the person died twice.

Thank you for the link, that is what I was looking for, I really appreciate it.

[Hugabear]

9. The more details that emerge, the clearer it becomes - Zimmerman is a MURDERER

Not only was this murder, but it was racially motivated murder.

[Auntie Bush]

35. It was a racially motivated, PREMEDITATED MURDER!! The man deserves life in prison!

Society isn't safe with him among us. He's a PARANOID POS. His kind makes me want to

[onehandle]

11. This has all the elements of what the NRAGOP's fear machine is creating.

Newsflash: Society is safer than ever. The gun lobby and Fox News are lying.

[The Wielding Truth]

12. Ewww. The result of fearmongering at it's worst. FOX results!

[Little Star]

13. Trayvon's body was left in the morgue as a "John Doe" for nearly 24 hours...

Where was his cell phone that he was using while talking to his girlfriend?

This whole thing stinks to high heaven!

[Pachamama]

23. Interesting question about where his cell phone was...but cell phone records will show the mins of

...the call and his girlfriend is another witness to be able to show that Trayvon was in fear and running from a stalker....

The witnesses and very damning evidence against George Zimmerman is piling up....

And the Sanford Police had no just cause to arrest and charge him? WTF?

It is becoming very clear that not only was a horrible hate crime committed, but we may dealing with more than an incompetent police force.....

[Tippy]

14. Thank the NRA and their lobbyist for this....NOT

The NRA condons killing....

[The Wielding Truth]

61. +the race baiters like Palin and Limbaugh, the birthers and those who claim to be Teaparty members.

[harun]

15. Untrained gun toting racist neighborhood watch captains using a controversial

law to allow them to be judge, jury and executioner to anyone they wish. What could possibly go wrong?

[goclark]

16. I'm with you~

Why would a nutcase like that be able to have a gun in a neighborhood?

Am I missing something ~ I live in a big city and we don't have "Neighborhood Watch" people that carry guns. We have Friendly Neighbors that "Watch Out" for each other ~ what more do you need?

Arrest this fool and put him under the jail!

As an African American I can tell that this is the tip of the iceburg ~ more to come if the Rethugs get in.

[gopiscrap]

32. That's the way it is in my neighborhood also

and I live with in a half mile of downtown. We watch out for eachother. You sound like a great neighbor to have!

[harun]

38. Exactly

I am near Philadelphia and if your neighborhood wants to keep a lookout great.

The Police Department not arresting this guy to me is actually the most egregious part of the whole story. Even in cases of verbal arguments between spouses you usually have one person being detained.

This Police Department says "We have no evidence this guys story is false". WTF? You got a dead human being? Just complete BS.

[yardwork]

41. That's what makes me so angry - the attitude of the police department.

The police chief's words as reported in the media make my blood boil.

[aquamarina]

26. Heartbreaking. Just heartbreaking.

[Baitball Blogger]

29. The plot thickens.

Maybe Trayvon was hanging out on the street to have some privacy to talk to his girlfriend? My daughter has done that when we traveled. She would try to get away to have some privacy to talk with her boyfriend. So Trayvon was jumping around and moving funny because he was cold?

God, Zimmerman couldn't have possibly assessed this situation worse than he did.

[workinclasszero]

43. Why is the damn KILLER not in prison right now?!

They have all the proof they need to lock up Zimmerman, the mad dog killer of black boys walking home from the store!

[slackmaster]

58. Prison is for people who have been convicted of crimes. As to why he isn't in JAIL right now...

...I believe the Sanford PD did a half-assed investigation and prematurely decided there were no grounds to arrest him or escalate the matter to the state attorney quickly. Now that the case has been escalated to the state attorney and handed off to a grand jury, charges may still be pending. The state attorney and grand jury can't arrest him, or have him arrested, until they produce an indictment. I believe that WILL happen.

Please be patient. The fact that he's walking around free right now is probably a result of police incompetence.

[catchnrelease]

45. More information.....

"Zimmerman said he had stepped out of his truck to check the name of the street he was on when Trayvon attacked him from behind as he walked back to his truck, police said. He said he feared for his life and fired the semiautomatic handgun he was licensed to carry because he feared for his life."

This guy's story is totally inconsistent. First he says he followed/chased the kid, and now he's saying he got out of his car and was attacked. (Mr Neighborhood Watch doesn't know the streets of the neighborhood he supposedly drives around regularly?) Wouldn't he know that since he had been on the phone with dispatch with one story of chasing a kid, he is now contradicting himself about being attacked from behind?

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/19/2703029/us-department-of-justice-fbi-and.html

More details of the phone calls with the girl:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/20/trayvon-martin-final-moments_n_1366697.html

Re: the police calling Trayvon's father--I can't find the story where I read this earlier today, but the father said that he only found out what happened after he had called the police with a missing child report after Trayvon didn't return home. The police came to the father's girlfriend's home the next day with a photo of Trayvon with blood coming out of his mouth, asking if this was the missing boy. Nice. (I believe this story was from a link in one of the two stories mentioned above)

[csziggy]

51. Zimmerman's story does not match the MAP of the neighborhood!

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-gfx-trayvon-martin-sanford-shooting-20120313,0,5710580.graphic

Compare that to the aerial view:


Zimmerman spotted Trayvon near the clubhouse, where the swimming pool is. I'd bet that when Trayvon realized that he was being followed, he ran up the sidewalk that goes between the backyards of the parallel rows of townhouses. Zimmerman cruised around, then got on foot to try to cut off the kid from the back entrance to the development, near where his father was staying.

Trayvon was not very far from being home when Zimmerman accosted him. As for checking which street - there are THREE streets in that neighborhood - Twin Tree Lane, Retreat View Circle and Long Oak Way. Zimmerman has lived there for years. How could he not know which street he was on?

[Marrah_G]

52. omg

That poor girl. I can't imagine the nightmares she must be having.

[MADem]

53. Does Florida have the death penalty, I wonder? nt

[KansDem]

63. Yes. Remember "Old Sparky?"

Although Florida now executes by lethal injection--

Florida
Does my state have the death penalty?
Yes, Florida has executed a total of 60 people since 1976.

What is my governor's position on the death penalty?
Governor Jeb Bush (R) strongly favors capital punishment. He does not believe that abolishing the death penalty would promote justice or save innocent lives. The Governor also believes we should look not only to the issues surrounding the defendant, but also to the surviving victims and to the effect the murder has on our community as a whole when deciding whether the death penalty is an appropriate punishment.

How many people are on Death Row in my state?
There are 385 prisonors on Death Row in Florida. Of the 385 Death Row prisoners, 134 are black, 215 are white, 34 are Latino, 1 is an Asian and 1 is Native American. Out of the 385 prisonors on Death Row, two of them are women.

Is there anything like the Center on Wrongful Convictions in my state?
Florida Innocence Project
Nova Southeastern University
Shepard Broad Law Center
Catherine Arcabascio
Carol Henderson
3305 College Avenue
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 33314
[phone]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

Was anyone on Death Row ever found innocent in my state?
Yes, Florida has exonerated 21 people from Death Row.

Are there any opportunities for volunteering in my state?
Floridians for Alternatives to Death Penalty

Additional Resources
Florida State Info at DPIC

Florida State Info at Equal Justice USA


* Information updated annually. Last updated January 2006. For more information, go to the Death Penalty Information Center.

http://deadlinethemovie.com/state/FL/index.php