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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 02:31 PM Apr 2014

BREAKING: Federal Judge Strikes Down Wisconsin Voter ID Law (Unfairly Burdens Poor, Minorities)

Source: Associated Press

@AP: BREAKING: Federal judge rejects Wisconsin voter ID law, says it unfairly burdens poor and minorities.

FEDERAL JUDGE STRIKES DOWN WISCONSIN VOTER ID LAW

Apr. 29, 2014 2:29 PM EDT

MILWAUKEE (AP) — A federal judge in Milwaukee has struck down Wisconsin's voter Identification law, saying it unfairly burdens poor and minority voters.

U.S. District Judge Lynn Adelman issued his long-awaited decision Tuesday. It invalidates Wisconsin's law.

Wisconsin's law would have required voters to show a state-issued photo ID at the polls. Supporters said it would cut down on voter fraud and boost public confidence in the integrity of the election process.

But Adelman sided with opponents, who said it disproportionately excluded poor and minority voters because they're less likely to have photo IDs or the documents needed to get them.

Wisconsin's law was only in effect for a 2012 primary before a Dane County judge declared it unconstitutional.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/federal-judge-strikes-down-wisconsin-voter-id-law

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BREAKING: Federal Judge Strikes Down Wisconsin Voter ID Law (Unfairly Burdens Poor, Minorities) (Original Post) Hissyspit Apr 2014 OP
Excellent news, with national implications. The RW is gonna fight hard this time around. NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #1
NICE! calimary Apr 2014 #2
Great. One step ahead. jwirr Apr 2014 #3
Finally!!! We've waited so long for a ruling on this!! hue Apr 2014 #4
Wisconsin Robbins Apr 2014 #5
BOOM! benld74 Apr 2014 #6
Judge Lynn Adelman Plucketeer Apr 2014 #7
Today is turning out to be a pretty damn good news day. K&R Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #8
Especially great news! Right on U.S. District Judge Lynn Adelman! nt chknltl Apr 2014 #9
Really important. Hopefully sets a precedent. /nt Ash_F Apr 2014 #10
The Texas voter id law is very similar to the Wisconsin voter id law Gothmog Apr 2014 #14
Thank you, Lynn Adelman. =) AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #11
This is great news Gothmog Apr 2014 #12
Here is a link to the actual opinion Gothmog Apr 2014 #13
Excellent. postulater Apr 2014 #15
Hooray! We need some good news in WI! Lifelong Protester Apr 2014 #16
Outstanding! H2O Man Apr 2014 #17
The real voter fraud mwyn8 Apr 2014 #18
Election fraud (like you describe) is a serious problem. riqster Apr 2014 #27
hence Election Fraud PatrynXX Apr 2014 #42
Here is a good explanation of this opinion from Professor Hasen Gothmog Apr 2014 #19
Thanks again Gothmog! I am anxious to see what happens here in Texas as well. Dustlawyer Apr 2014 #28
Your ex-wife should be able to correct this with voter registrar Gothmog Apr 2014 #30
She got it corrected already, it's just the fact that they had it correct, then changed it back Dustlawyer Apr 2014 #37
the registration cards we recieved in 2012 are almost all worn off. PatrynXX Apr 2014 #43
I'm confused... HuskyOffset Apr 2014 #47
Prof Hasen has updated article Gothmog Apr 2014 #51
Thank you! HuskyOffset May 2014 #53
Key Finding: Virtually No Evidence of Past Voter Fraud Stallion Apr 2014 #20
Excellent. 3catwoman3 Apr 2014 #21
The legislatures make 'em, the Courts break 'em. malthaussen Apr 2014 #22
Suck it Focker Blue Owl Apr 2014 #23
Wonderful! K&R myrna minx Apr 2014 #24
take that walker unionthug777 Apr 2014 #25
Unexpected! Thank you, so much. We all needed that. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2014 #26
bada bing bada boom SummerSnow Apr 2014 #29
Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Scuba Apr 2014 #31
YES! Cha Apr 2014 #32
As predicted the WI AG has announced his appeal... hue Apr 2014 #33
Excellent news! eom sheshe2 Apr 2014 #34
Huzzah! BumRushDaShow Apr 2014 #35
My dad greeted me with this news Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2014 #36
We are doing the happy dance! AllyCat Apr 2014 #38
Proud of My Home State! RedRoses323 Apr 2014 #39
Could this apply to other things that require ID madville Apr 2014 #40
Americans have a constitutional right to vote. They don't have a constitutional right to fly fishing Princess Turandot Apr 2014 #45
The right to buy a firearm is constitutionally protected madville Apr 2014 #50
What specifically would lead this to apply to other things? LanternWaste May 2014 #54
If they don't have a state issued ID to vote madville May 2014 #55
There's quite a leap between air travel and participating in democracy RandySF Sep 2018 #56
k&r n/t RainDog Apr 2014 #41
Sad that I am conditioned to be surprised by such common sense these days, with Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2014 #44
Good sakabatou Apr 2014 #46
FAIR ELECTIONS=GOP NIGHTMARE nikto Apr 2014 #48
How come the new laws get struck down madville Apr 2014 #49
Adelman was nominated by Gov Tommy Thompson Jimbo S Apr 2014 #52
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Excellent news, with national implications. The RW is gonna fight hard this time around.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 02:32 PM
Apr 2014

What with all that egg on their face for trying so hard to block ACA.

I love it.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
5. Wisconsin
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 02:37 PM
Apr 2014

Walker's relection may have gotten harder with poor and minorities able to vote In november now.

Gothmog

(144,890 posts)
14. The Texas voter id law is very similar to the Wisconsin voter id law
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:22 PM
Apr 2014

There will motions for summary judgment filed this summer and the trial on the Texas voter id law starts on September 2

Gothmog

(144,890 posts)
12. This is great news
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:20 PM
Apr 2014

The opinion is 90 pages long but I am going to enjoy reading it. The Texas voter id law is very similar to the Wisconsin voter id law.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
15. Excellent.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:27 PM
Apr 2014

There can be no justification for any election rules that do anything other than encourage all eligible people to vote.

Now if we could just get John "Walker" Doe arrested.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
16. Hooray! We need some good news in WI!
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:29 PM
Apr 2014

Now get rid of that "poll watchers can stand as close as three feet to the voter" law.

Gothmog

(144,890 posts)
19. Here is a good explanation of this opinion from Professor Hasen
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:44 PM
Apr 2014

Prof. Hasen is an expert on election law. http://electionlawblog.org/?p=60972

Here are my initial thoughts on Frank v. Walker, in which a federal district court held that Wisconsin’s voter id law both violates the Constitution and Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act:

1. This is about the best possible opinion that opponents of voter identification laws could have hoped for. It is heavy on both facts and on law. It is thoughtful and well written. It finds that a voter id law serves neither an anti-fraud purposes (because “virtually no voter impersonation occurs in Wisconsin and it is exceedingly unlikely that voter impersonation will become a problem in Wisconsin in the foreseeable future”) nor voter confidence purposes. It finds that it burdens lots of voters (up to 300,000) voters. It finds these burdens fall especially on Black and Latino voters and that the reason is does is poverty, which is itself the result of prior legal discrimination.It enjoins enforcement of the law for everyone, and expresses considerable doubt that the Wisconsin legislature could amend the law to make it constitutional. It is about as strong a statement as one might imagine as to the problems the voter id law.

2. Wisconsin is likely to appeal, and it is unclear how the case will fare in the 7th Circuit and possibly the Supreme Court. (Further making this complicated is that there are state case putting voter id on hold and now pending before the State Supreme Court.) A special twist is that Judge Posner of the Seventh Circuit made controversial remarks about voter id laws being a means of voter suppression, and expressing regret about his earlier decision in the Indiana voter id case. It is not clear what role, if any, he will play in any appeal.

3. Both the constitutional law and VRA section 2 claims are controversial. On the con law point, the judge purports to apply the “Anderson-Burdick” balancing test that the Supreme Court applied in upholding Indiana’s voter id law in the Crawford case. The judge purports to apply Crawford, but reaches a different result. It is not clear that this is a fair application of that test–which seems to suggest at most that the law be upheld as to most voters but create an “as applied” exemption for a specific class of voters. The judge said that this was not practical in this case given the large number of Wisconsin voters who lack id. It is not clear that the appellate courts will agree.

4. On the VRA issue, this is the first full ruling on how to adjudicate voter id vote denial cases under section 2. The key test appears on page 52 of the pdf: “Based on the text, then,
I conclude that Section 2 protects against a voting practice that creates a barrier to voting
that is more likely to appear in the path of a voter if that voter is a member of a minority
group than if he or she is not. The presence of a barrier that has this kind of disproportionate impact prevents the political process from being ‘equally open’ to all and results in members of the minority group having ‘less opportunity’ to participate in the political process and to elect representatives of their choice.” The judge also approaches the causation/results question in a straightforward way. It is not clear whether the appellate courts will agree or not agree with this approach, which would seem to put a number of electoral processes which burden poor and minority voters up for possible VRA liability.

In sum, this is a huge victory for voter id proponents. But time will tell if this ruling survives.

I would love to see Judge Posner on the panel that hears this case so that he can undo some of the damage done in the Crawford case.

This case will be used in the Texas voter id case.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
28. Thanks again Gothmog! I am anxious to see what happens here in Texas as well.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 05:00 PM
Apr 2014

My ex-wife changed her name back after our divorce, including on her voter registration. Since then she voted twice. When she received her most recent voter's registration card in the mail she discovered that they changed her last name back to her married name so that it no longer matches her Driver's license, making her ineligible to vote. I cannot wait until this state turns blue!

Gothmog

(144,890 posts)
30. Your ex-wife should be able to correct this with voter registrar
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 06:53 PM
Apr 2014

Correcting an error is not a new registration and so there should not be a 30 day waiting period.

We are warning voters to check their voter registration cards. This will be more important for the general election as compared to the primary run off.

Chad Dunn is a good trial lawyer and I know that he will be happy with this opinion(Chad is representing Marc Veasey's group of plaintiffs). The DOJ has some really strong attorneys on this case. My real worry has been that the Corpus Christi federal judge will strike down the Texas voter id law but Priscilla Owen and/or Edith Jones will overrule that ruling on bogus grounds. That is what happen in the HB2 case where the 5th Cir. is the only Federal appellant court to uphold a TRAP law. Jones and Owen are really bad judges and are friends with Abbott. Abbott is putting a great deal of his prestige on the redistricting case and the voter id case.

Sondra Haltom was just hired by the DNC to set up voter protection teams in Texas under the Texas Democratic Party. I have worked with Sondra before and she is happy with the program that I have set up for my county. If you are interested, let me know.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
37. She got it corrected already, it's just the fact that they had it correct, then changed it back
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 08:18 PM
Apr 2014

on their own accord after they passed the voter ID crap.
I do think they should come focus on Beaumont where we have 50% of the population that are predominately poor minorities. This was one of the last areas to turn Republican, and only through gerrymandering could they flip it.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
43. the registration cards we recieved in 2012 are almost all worn off.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:33 PM
Apr 2014

made of cheap paper and poorly printed. I will be surprised if they let me vote with this.

HuskyOffset

(888 posts)
47. I'm confused...
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:36 AM
Apr 2014

At the top it says:

This is about the best possible opinion that opponents of voter identification laws could have hoped for.


but at the bottom it says:

In sum, this is a huge victory for voter id proponents.


Well . . . which is it?

Gothmog

(144,890 posts)
51. Prof Hasen has updated article
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 07:56 AM
Apr 2014

The revised article now states thar this a Hugh victory for voter iid opponents. Even law professors can make mistakes

HuskyOffset

(888 posts)
53. Thank you!
Thu May 1, 2014, 07:36 AM
May 2014

Excellent, thank you Gothmog! I figured it was a typo, but that little bit of doubt was harshing my happiness buzz over the ruling. If I were a smarter person, I'd be able to figure it out by reading the ruling, but alas, legalese makes my head hurt. Thanks for updating us on the professor's correction.

Stallion

(6,473 posts)
20. Key Finding: Virtually No Evidence of Past Voter Fraud
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:47 PM
Apr 2014

Republicans can babble on until their are blue in the face about rampant but when an evidentiary record is required Courts almost always determine there is no such evidence

3catwoman3

(23,943 posts)
21. Excellent.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:50 PM
Apr 2014

Perhaps the RWNJs have overplayed their hand and are about to to find a few bite marks on their interfering fingers.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
22. The legislatures make 'em, the Courts break 'em.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:51 PM
Apr 2014

I wish we didn't have to go through this process every time, but that's how our system "works" these days.

-- Mal

hue

(4,949 posts)
33. As predicted the WI AG has announced his appeal...
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 07:33 PM
Apr 2014
http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/257204711.html

Wisconsin attorney general vows to appeal federal court ruling striking down voter ID law

MADISON, Wis. — Republican Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen says he will appeal the federal court ruling striking down Wisconsin's voter identification law.

U.S. District Judge Lynn Adelman ruled Tuesday that the law passed in 2011 is unconstitutional.

Van Hollen says, "I am disappointed with the order and continue to believe Wisconsin's law is constitutional. We will appeal."

Van Hollen is at the end of his second term in office and is not running for a third.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
36. My dad greeted me with this news
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 08:08 PM
Apr 2014

as soon as I walked in the door tonight. We're so very happy because we have some of the finest relatives ever in WI and we dearly love them. Have been commiserating with them for years since Stalker was elected and eeked out the recall. Wisconsin deserves better!

K&R

madville

(7,403 posts)
40. Could this apply to other things that require ID
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:20 PM
Apr 2014

Like boarding an airliner, buying alcohol, getting a fishing license, etc?

If if disproportionally affects the poor and minorities in voting doesn't it affect them in many other areas as well?

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
45. Americans have a constitutional right to vote. They don't have a constitutional right to fly fishing
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:58 AM
Apr 2014

That's the difference.

madville

(7,403 posts)
50. The right to buy a firearm is constitutionally protected
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 06:06 AM
Apr 2014

And one has to show ID to exercise that right. So requiring ID to purchase a firearm is a burden on the poor and minorities if this applies.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
54. What specifically would lead this to apply to other things?
Thu May 1, 2014, 01:55 PM
May 2014

What specifically (and with relevance) would lead this to eventually apply to other things?

madville

(7,403 posts)
55. If they don't have a state issued ID to vote
Thu May 1, 2014, 06:13 PM
May 2014

If the poor or minorities can not obtain a state issued ID and that makes requiring such an ID to vote unconstitutional, can't the same argument be made about having to display a state issued ID in order to purchase a firearm?

Both are rights protected by the constitution. How can it be unconstitutional for one and ok for the other?

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
44. Sad that I am conditioned to be surprised by such common sense these days, with
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:20 AM
Apr 2014

so much RW crap being sanctioned by the courts.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
48. FAIR ELECTIONS=GOP NIGHTMARE
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:55 AM
Apr 2014

Hell, actual representative government is the biggest GOP nightmare of all.

madville

(7,403 posts)
49. How come the new laws get struck down
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 06:03 AM
Apr 2014

But the 30 or so states that have existing laws (I've had to show ID for a decade or two at least) can continue?

Does it make a difference that the state will give out a free state ID card?

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