Dennis Kucinich offers no support for Marcy Kaptur after primary defeat
Source: The Hill
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) declined to offer his support for Rep. Marcy Kaptur’s (D-Ohio) reelection campaign Thursday, two weeks after Kaptur defeated him in a primary and ended his 8-term run in the House.
“I’m not going to talk about that campaign at all,” Kucinich told Current TV when asked if he would endorse Kaptur. “There are some things that need to be resolved."
Kaptur and Kucinich were pitted against each other by GOP mapmakers in Ohio who drew the two into a single Democratic district along the coast of Lake Erie. After his defeat in the primary by about 15 points, Kucinich accused Kaptur of running a campaign on his turf that was “utterly lacking in integrity, with false statements, half truths, misrepresentations.”
He said Thursday he wasn’t backing down from that claim.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/217787-kucinich-offers-no-support-for-kaptur-after-primary-defeat
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With nearly all of the precincts counted around the North Coast, the Toledo Democrat defeated challenger Kucinich by roughly 11,000 votes, according to unofficial election results.
http://lakewood-oh.patch.com/articles/tktk-wins-race-for-ohio-s-9th-district-congressional-seat
Dag...
that's too bad, because he is a very committed progressive. I hate to see this kind of rhetoric flying
when taking back control of the House is so important.
It's interesting that BradBlog is intimating that something is fishy in the vote count... and of course, Diebold is at the heart of that matter.
That said, an enormous part of the new district WAS Rep. Kaptur's old district. I'd have been more surprised, frankly, if Rep. Kucinich had won.
dumping their contribution into the slop jar.
Awesome. 
He was defeated by double digits, he should suck it up, and supporter his victorious challenger, or stop calling himself a "democrat". At the end of the day, the seat still went to a deserving "democrat". Get it?
And since we're labeling folks, why don't the Utopian "uber liberals" stop blaming everyone else for their failure to launch, and accept that everyone might not be that into you? How many times has Dennis run for President, and soundly rejected by "Democrats"? Maybe it isn't everyone else, maybe it's Dennis?
redraw the districts, and I'm sure that unlike many "disillusioned" Democrats, she didn't sit out the midterms. So place the blame squarely where it belongs. Dennis lost, and it was really just a matter of time. I have no idea what his approval was for his district, but statewide they were abysmal. His district voted for his name, not his legislative accomplishments. His record of legislative successes is unimpressive to say the least, unless you count naming post offices. 
Is there any human that you feel you can agree with 100% of the time? Any human? If not, what makes Marcy any different? You'll either get over it & move on, or you'll let it fester and eventually consume you. That's up to you.
It's not "liberals" I hate, it's people who are sure they are right about EVERYTHING, and there's no middle ground for them. It's the kind of thinking that swept in the worst Congress in history. If thinking that the two parties should work together for the good of ALL OF US makes me a Blue Dog, then sobeit.
As for the "others" you speak of? I won't even go there. 
"Liberal Icon"? 
Talk about hyperbole. Ms. Hamsher-Norquist is anything BUT.
Anybody claiming her a liberal icon 
has no clue what they are talking about 
her ilk profit from it, and from both sides. Her collusion/partnership with Norquist said everything I ever wanted to know about her. 
is that most of those people say that the Hamsher/Norquist partnership was justified since it was for a 'just' cause in their mind....but they will also savagely attack Obama if he even utters a single word about considering working with some republicans to get a bill passed since that would make him a sellout. 
for Obama, but for Hamsher it's excuseable. She & Greenwald get a pass cuz they're righteous, doncha know?
some of the comments being made him and who was making them, and to be honest, I would be far less likely to give much credence to their opinions than his any day. He probably could say things a bit less, well, passionately, but I guess sometimes it just all gets to people. Anyhow, thank you for your response, and may I return the compliment, I generally find your comments informative also.
And of course, what I've seen on sites like this. I know he has a devoted following, but so does Michelle Bachmann. I'm more interested in Dennis sitting his ass down, away from the cameras, and trying to work with the "Blue Dogs" he obviously despises to actually get good legislation, and I don't mean naming post offices.
I have my progressive heroes just like anyone else, John Lewis comes immediately to mind. But If John Lewis, who is a civil rights icon was booed & wasn't good enough to speak at an Occupy rally, then I have to ask where this neo progressivism is going, and who are these people?
I'm not here to pass someone's subjective purity test of "progressivism", and they don't have to pass mine. But, as a lifelong, 4th generation, African American DEMOCRAT, I'm finding myself distancing myself from some elements of the left, and it's not a good feeling. I realize that DU is not the real world; hell, it ain't even the Democratic Party, but I'll admit that I have issues with some of the more high profile members of the left who claim to be speaking for all of us.
If I'm completely honest, I think I have a bigger problem with Kooch's most ardent fanbase, which dates back to his presidential primary days, but that's another story. While I may understand their devotion to Dennis, I deplore the outright vitriol espoused by some of them for the president.
A high profile DU'er, who shall remain nameless, apparently worked for Kooch and has never been able to accept that this party DID NOT & WILL NOT nominate Dennis Kucinich for POTUS. Every post drips with condemnation for the president, and condescension for anyone who supports him. That takes it's toll after awhile. As forementioned, I think I may have let my disdain for some of his most hateful supporters, cloud my opinion of Kooch.
I can honestly say that your response has softened my jaded view, somewhat. But, I still think it was bad form to openly state, or even insinuate that he wouldn't support the winner. But that's just me.
with Kooch. His heart may be in the right place, but he's not averse to a little self promotion. As I stated elsewhere, I wanted Kooch to sit his ass down, out of the public gaze, and really try to bring his colleagues along with him. He has failed to do that. He has three, count them THREE successful pieces of legislation, authored by him, and signed into law. I won't repost them here, because that's just how insignificant they are.
I believe we both support President Obama because he's a surefooted realist. Dennis, on the other hand, is an idealist (at least he plays one on teevee), bordering on zealot. Dennis is hailed as a "fighter", and that's fine, but he has managed to piss off people who should be his natural allies, and that doesn't bode well for a continued successful political career. Just look back at his runs for the presidential nomination. While he has a devoted and vocal following, it's really REALLY small.
As I told another poster, I think my biggest problem is with the viciousness of his supporters (one in particular), and how they've gone after the president with such vitriolic abandon. You, on the other hand, are one of my favorite DU'ers, so in future, I'll try & remember you when posting about Kooch.
be a part of this BIG tent? People voted for those "blue dogs", just like they voted for Kooch and the rest of the Progressive Caucus. I think my biggest problem has been that "progressives" in 2008 think they alone elected this president, and that's far from the truth, and therefore think they are owed more than anyone else.
I used to think I was a progressive, but there's a new breed (mostly confined to the internet) who have coopted the term, who seem to think that if you're shrill enough, you'll get what you want. I think I've become much more patient in my middle age, and I've seriously wondered if this new breed really cares about policy, or if they just enjoy the fighting?
Hyperpartisanship can be quite lucrative. Keeping us at each other's throats (metaphorically) can ensure that the blogosphere, talk radio, and a few teevee networks stay afloat; just ask Rush & Arianna. Progressives can have all the good intentions in the world, but if they can't bring their colleagues along, who's to blame?
...was less than 1000 votes! His even opening an office here was a total waste of time.
The original GOP gerrymander of Toledo was to divide the city into THREE congressional districts. Somehow, that got changed to only two. I am less than a mile away from the dividing line between the 9th (Kaptur) and the 5th (Latta - R), so I'm pretty mad. The Repubs took the area of Toledo that is "mostly" Republican. I say that with quotes because Marcy has won her district time and time again with upwards of 60% of the vote here. In order to get these results Republicans have to be voting for her.
The only thing I can hope for is that the Democratic candidate for the 5th district, Angela Zimmann, gives Latta a bit of a run for his money. The 5th district is mostly rural and that, in Ohio, means GOP country 
.
Refusing to support and fund illegal wars and torture, is extreme.
Refusing to pour more money into the MIC is hugely extreme.
Refusing to vote to take away the Civil Rights of US citizens, or anyone else for that matter, is also extreme.
Supporting equal rights for all Americans, including gay marriage, that too is extreme.
The list of Kucinich's extreme policies is long. 
Btw, obviously you disagree with all of the above. Can you explain why? What policies do you think Democrats should support?
The UFO Party?
As far as I know, the Keebler Elves don't have their own political party.
...how many of you even live in the 9th district and/or Toledo area? Are you guys shooting from the hip or do you have experience with one or both candidates?
The Toledo Blade and the Cleveland Plain Dealer both endorsed Marcy Kaptur. The big battleground was Lorain, OH and Marcy won there. DK was only able to win in the very eastern part of the new 9th district.
Kaptur will now be the longest serving woman in Congress and will be the Chair of the House Appropriations Committee. I think that's a win-win for the residents of the 9th District.
She's a politician who had to run a campaign, for heaven's sake. The campaign had to do with what was best for her constituents. She's always put the Toledo area (formerly ALL in the 9th, now split with the SW part going to the 5th (Latta-R).
The gerrymandering was and is a rotten deal. However, it's time to move on. I'm in the part of Toledo that will now be in the 5th district. There's not much I can do about it. I can rant all I want but I have to live with it .
More information on vote results here:
http://www.toledoblade.com/Politics/2012/03/07/Kaptur-trounces-Kucinich.html
was the moment that I realized that it's All About Teh Dennis too. 
"Which is what Kucinich did NOT say!
People should write in Kucinich!"
You wanna tell us again about those posing as "Democrats, to divide the party"? Got a mirror?
It's a feeding frenzy.
