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Omaha Steve

(99,703 posts)
Thu May 22, 2014, 11:16 AM May 2014

Sears 1Q loss widens, sales remain soft

Source: Omaha World Herald-AP

HOFFMAN ESTATES, Ill. (AP) — Sears' first-quarter loss widened as the beleaguered retailer's sales declined amid its ongoing struggle to attract shoppers.

Sears Holdings Corp. — which operates Kmart and its namesake stores — has been cutting costs, reducing inventory and selling assets to return to profit. At the same time, it's shifting away from its focus on running a store network into a member-focused business.

The latest results show the heavy challenges that remain.

Chairman and CEO Edward Lampert said in a statement on Thursday that Sears is seeing progress in its shift to a member-focused business, with first-quarter member sales comprising 74 percent of eligible sales — the highest level ever.

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appleannie1

(5,068 posts)
2. We used to buy all our appliances etc. at Sears because they had a repair dept.
Thu May 22, 2014, 11:38 AM
May 2014

If something went wrong a repairman would come to the house and take care of the problem. They also had an in store parts department. If a belt broke, you could go to the store and pick one up. Then they did away with all that. So now we go to places that sell appliances or TV's etc. that are closer or cheaper. As far as I am concerned they caused their own problems.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. They have refused to come to our house for a repair.
Thu May 22, 2014, 01:59 PM
May 2014

Brand new washing machine, we had to order it special to get one with an agitator, no less.
Seems they are phasing out agitators.
The thing is computer driven.
It kept cycling thru the wash twice on each setting...2 washes, 2 rinses, even tho it is not set to do that
and there is no setting for 2 washing cycles back to back.

Called the manager, he is our neighbour, for God's sake.
No deal...he said the best he could do would ship it off for repair but..
get this..
WE had to bring it into the store!

Mr. Dixie fixed it..he "re-booted" it by unplugging, then plugging back in.
Been working fine.

Sears manager has had his house up for sale the past 3 years.
real estate is not moving at all here.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
3. anyone been in one lately?
Thu May 22, 2014, 11:47 AM
May 2014

Messy, disorganized, unpleasant to shop in. It is though the staff decided to take the "planned chaos" that their financial moran owner wanted to heart, and are applying that concept to every store.

appleannie1

(5,068 posts)
9. The last couple times we have been in a Sears store we have had to look for someone to check us out.
Thu May 22, 2014, 12:39 PM
May 2014

They were always busy doing other things far away from the checkout station. It used to be the checkout was always manned. Not anymore. And it is very hard to find clothes suitable for a mature woman. Everything tends to be more suited for teens. So I have started buying my clothes at BonTon instead. There is more of a variety and the prices are better.

smallcat88

(426 posts)
4. I'm one of those employees
Thu May 22, 2014, 11:55 AM
May 2014

I work at the local Kmart. Despite my employee discount (which doesn't work for half the stuff in the store) I still do most of my shopping elsewhere because Kmart prices are more than I can afford. They routinely cut employees hours because they aren't getting the necessary payroll from corporate but we are still expected to get the same amount of work done with fewer employees on the clock. I just looked it up - Lampert is worth 3.1 billion. That's billion, with a B.

The Kmart card doesn't work like most do (where you get the sale price if you have a card), instead they make it so complicated most customers who have one don't know how it works. You get points for every dollar you spend and points accumulate on the card, which you can redeem for a few dollars IF you know your PIN, yadda, yadda, yadda. I get tired of trying to explain it to customers who are understandably frustrated with it. That's the Shop Your Way member-focused business. It's a nightmare, you can't even sign up without an email address, disqualifying a lot of older people who used to shop at Kmart on a regular basis. They make you answer so many questions at checkout - do you have a card, do you want to donate to something, etc.. I call it the question gauntlet, that I've heard many people walk out the door saying 'I'm never coming back here.'

I've also lost count of how many frustrated customers left because our store doesn't carry a lot of the stuff they advertise in the national flyers. They don't price match, a lot of the sale signs have small print disqualifiers that make them seem very misleading . . . it goes on and on. I'm surprised they have any customers at all.

This was the only job I could find after I got laid off from my last job. Keep looking for another job but . . . everyone's heard this part of the story.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
8. Your store sounds like my closest Kmart.
Thu May 22, 2014, 12:29 PM
May 2014

They never have anything from the ad and lots of empty shelves. It isn't really convenient to me so I don't go there much anyway. I used to have a great Kmart years ago in a different neighborhood. It was the first one I had ever been to and could never figure out why it was made fun of in Rainman. The shelves were well stocked it was bright and clean, good prices on soaps and health and beauty aids, and had a great garden center. My local one is a completely different story.

Rite Aid is by personal bane with its goofy customer loyalty card. You don't get the discount at the register but accumulate some sort of points and then can go online and request a check for your discount but only once a month but if you miss some time cut off you lose the discount. Forget it. I don't shop there. I guess Kmart has customers that feel like I do about Rite Aid.

Good luck with your job hunt and I hope you have some fellow employees you like and that you can commiserate with for now.

bigworld

(1,807 posts)
11. Good, it's not just me then!
Thu May 22, 2014, 12:53 PM
May 2014

The "Shop Your Way" card program is apparently Lampert's big deal that he's trumpeting. It's less useful than most store loyalty cards and extremely confusing on the consumer end, too. It just feels scammy and creepy: http://www.shopyourway.com/

And I don't see how it's making them any money, really.

Sure, sales are down and the future is dim, but "Shop Your Way" is growing. If I were a shareholder, I'd be like, so what? How he stays in his position is beyond me.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,238 posts)
5. I've always used my Sears account for appliances, and appliance repair, exclusively. I just.....
Thu May 22, 2014, 12:06 PM
May 2014

received a letter yesterday, telling me that they've reviewed my account, and since there's been no activity for 24 mos., they will be cutting my credit line by $1500, unless I make a charge by August 31st. It's like blackmail. Why should I purchase something I don't need, just because they're in financial trouble?

A few months ago, they tried to change my Sears account to a MasterCard. I guess this is my punishment for declining that offer. I already have a MasterCard that I don't use much. I've had this account since I was a teenager, but I'm willing to close it, and use a major credit card for future appliance purchases. I don't take kindly to blackmail.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
10. You're right, Steve
Thu May 22, 2014, 12:48 PM
May 2014

When my wife died a couple of yrs ago, we used our Sears MasterCard for everything because we accumulated rewards points. We both had accounts, and I continued using the card, unaware the card I was using with MY name on it was really her account where she was the primary. After about a year after her death, I tried to redeem about $500 worth of reward points I had accumulated but was told since it was on her account, and she was deceased, the $500 had to be forfeited. Even though I was executor of her estate and sole heir, they refused to honor the points. I got as high as I could up the ladder of M/C supervisors and promptly told her to close both accounts, and shove those cards directly up her ass! (not kind, I know, but she was being bitchy).

This is the way they treat cardholders of 40 YEARS! Not very smart since I was charging close to $20K/yr on the card. I will never use a M/C or shop at Sears ever again, and I tell everyone I know not to shop there because they SUCK!

Will it hurt my credit score? Probably, but it was at 821 last time I checked, and I haven't borrowed money in 25 yrs. I have a very comfortable retirement income, enough savings to last the rest of my life and my kids, too, probably.

So, I'm not surprised they are going under. Since being acquired by KMart, Sears has started carrying junk just like Kmart......cheap crap. Even the Craftsman brand tools are now cheaply made and inferior. I just can't help but laugh at the idiots who run this company. Losers!

Treant

(1,968 posts)
13. KMart/Sears used to be great
Thu May 22, 2014, 01:10 PM
May 2014

In fact, I never used a plant food but theirs. It was cheaper, exactly the same as the big name brand, and easy to get.

Nowadays, I'm lucky if it's on the shelf. I actually stopped going some time ago because it was usually a wasted trip that ended with me going to the local big box builder's store for what I needed.

I did stop by when the store "moved" and cleaned them out of gardening supplies I could use. It's weird, but that "move" was never completed.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
15. Sears has not done anything right in 50 years....
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:50 PM
May 2014

I suspect the leadership of both Sears and Kmart had no idea of where they wanted to go. My favorite example of this is the Kresge family, that had founded SS Kresge that later become Kmart. In the 1980s or 1990s (It has been a long time since I read about the problem) Kmart's board of directors decided the long term policy of Kmart NOT to sell any liquor should be changed. Kresge family objected for their were teetotalers and had always forbade the selling of any alcoholic items from SS Kresge and later Kmart. Those objections were overruled by the Board of Directors, and the Kresge Family sold off their stocks for they refused to earned any money off the sale of Alcohol. I bring this story up, for it shows that the Board of Directors of Kmart was willing to do anything to gain short term profits, even if it meant turning away long term investors. Such a Board will also ignore what its employees want and want they customer's want. In many ways that was and is the main problem with Kmart and Sears, the people in charge of both refuse to listen to their customers or their employees.

50 years ago, Sears was the "Man's Store", it is where men went shopping. I had tools, outdoor supplies etc. Sear has clothing, but it was mostly "black mail" items i.e Wife: "Here I need some new bras, a new dress and other things for the Kitchen, you pay for it since you are buying that new drill, when you already have three!!!" Husband: "Yes Dear, but with this drill I can do X, the other drills I can only do Y".

No one went to Sears to buy clothes, you went to sears for other items and then clothes if you saw something you liked or needed.

The down side of the above, was clothing had a much larger mark up then tools, thus more profitable. Sears thus slowly expanded its clothing market, neglected its tools, white goods, outdoor goods etc section for their were low profit when compared to clothing. Sears just refused to accept the fact that Clothing was NOT why people went to Sears, the profit was to high.

The Shift to emphasizing clothing accelerated in the 1980s as Sears shifted its view of its main Competitor from Montgomery Ward to Kmart.

One observer in the 1980s commented that Sears was having a hard time to adjust to the fact its Customers were changing. In the 1880s, Sears Main Customers were small farmers in the sticks, but as people moved into urban areas, Sears opened stores in Urban Area after 1900. When People started to move to the suburbs in the 1930s (and accelerated in the 1950s), Sears upgraded its stores to better fit the increase income of post WWII working class men and women. Starting in the 1980s, as Income of the Working Class stagnated, Sears tried to upgrade itself into the Upper Middle Class. The problem the Upper Middle Class does NOT shop in Sears, except for the same items the Working Class wanted from Sears. Sears started to lose its customer base to other stores catering to people (Mostly men, but includes many women) who wanted TOOLS, WHITE GOODS and OUT DOOR Equipment. Sears sets its prices for the Upper Middle Class Market, and its Working Class customers went elsewhere,

Since the 1980s, Sears has had a problem. Its customer base's (Working Class people) income has stagnated. Upper Class people's income has increased and Sears wanted to get those customers, but they went to upscale stores. Sears kept trying to upscale itself, but most Upper Middle Class people still viewed Sears as a Working Class Store and went they only for non-clothing items. Sears saw the huge profits in clothing, kept trying to get the Upper Middle Class to come to Sears for Clothing, and slowly lost its base, the Working Class, by ignoring them and assuming they would also come to Sears.

K-mart was better in the 1970s, Kmart never saw itself as a upscale store. The problem was in the 1980s and 1990s it ran across the same dilemma as Sears, clothing was high profit and where they wanted to go, but their customer base was the Working Class and working class income had stagnated. K-mart tried various ways to improve its market, all at the expense of its customer base. Like Sears, the leadership of Kmart saw the huge profits in upscale stores and wanted to get into it, but forgot that Kmart was NOT an upscale store. Customers went to Kmart for Bargains not the latest greatest thing.

Kmart and Sears was thus in the same situation in the 1990s, their Customer Base, the Working Class, income had stagnated and with it the ability of each to increase sales had diminished. Walmart, had started out in areas of the Country Sears and Kmart had ignored. Kmart had started as Kresge's in the early 1900s in urban American (including small towns). Sears had started out as a Catalog store for Rural America, but as people moved off the farm to the cities, Sears went with them. Thus Kmart and Sears were weak in Rural America, and Walmart, along with cheap gasoline, took such rural areas by storm.

Once Walmart had most of Rural America sewed up, it moved into Suburban America, but from the Rural Areas not from the Inner City as Kmart and Sears had done. This permitted them to cut cost by buying cheap land and building their stores and having people drive to them, as opposed to Kmart and Sears that had always followed their customers to be near them. The Sears and Kmart policy had worked, but both ended up with stores in locations where the locals could also drive to a Walmart. The Working Class looking for the best price, ended up driving to Walmart, taking their income with them.

Thus Kmart and Sears was being hit two ways, First they base, which they had ignored from the 1970s onward, abandoned them for Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot and other large stand alone stores catering to the working class. At the same time Kmart and Sears kept trying to enter the upscale markets and kept failing for people did not go to Kmart or Sears for upscale items.

Finally in the 2005, Sears and Kmart merged. It was like two drunks going home from a bar, both could not stand alone, so they proceeded to go home holding each other up. In my opinion it was a marketing debacle. Kmart should have stayed as it was, a discounter for that is what people saw it was. Sears should have concentrated on its hardware section, ignoring the high profit clothing market. You concentrate on what people go to you for, in the case of Sears it was White Goods and Hardware items not clothing.

The problem appears, neither Sears nor Kmart's board of Directors liked the idea they should stay in the areas they were noted for and stay out of areas no one goes to Kmart or Sears for, no matter the profit margins. Concentrate on what you are good at and that is where Sears and Kmart has FAILED since the 1970s.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
16. I get the feeling . . .
Thu May 22, 2014, 05:10 PM
May 2014

That soon I will be ordering all my Lands' End online again instead of going to the Sears store. No big loss.

sabbat hunter

(6,834 posts)
17. Sears holding biggest problem
Thu May 22, 2014, 06:42 PM
May 2014

is the merger of Sears and KMart. Prior to that Sears was moving along. After the merger, Ed Lampert has driven both companies in to the ground, withholding needed renovations, upgrades, etc in favor of stock buybacks, which boosted his personal wealth.

He cares little for the long term viability of the company, instead is focused on what he can get out of it.

Split the companies up, with Lampert having nothing to do with either one, and they might surivive.

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