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[randys1]

1. Fox never tells the truth, so this didnt happen until a legitimate source reports it

[big_dog]

4. the partisan battle is now joined

GOP wingnut scandal machine is going to way overplay their hand here... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/06/05/morning-plum-on-bowe-bergdahl-white-house-bets-on-gop-overreach/

[randys1]

13. NO democrat in history would do what they are doing

none never have...

These republicans are terrorists, they are anti american folks, they hate America and will continue to until only white males have control of everything

[shenmue]

6. That's what I'm thinking

[AtheistCrusader]

2. Maybe Fox News syndrome.

[JI7]

3. people who are captives will often do and say things just to survive

[randys1]

7. Bowe likely saw his men kill an innocent child and he became very bitter

This is the story I am hearing which makes sense.


Some will ignore it and go on to be bothered later with PTSD, others like Bowe will react right then and there and refuse to continue to contribute to killing

[VanillaRhapsody]

29. Stockholm Syndrome....ask Patty Hearst...

[alarimer]

5. Consider the source of this "news".

I doubt it's really true, but I can see telling your captors exactly what they want to hear, just to make your life a lot easier.

If it were me, I would squeal like a little pig and tell them anything they wanted to know (even if I had to make it up), just to hopefully have an easier time of it.

[randys1]

8. Pretty sure the true story of McCain was he did anything they told him to do

not that I blame him

[CJCRANE]

9. Rupert Murdoch is pumping out the propaganda as fast as he can.

[mainstreetonce]

14. Someone already wrote that script.

They called it Homeland.

[The Magistrate]

10. Blown And Debunked, Sir, Even Before You Posted It

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025054646

'Reached by telephone, retired U.S. Marine Corps General James N. Mattis, a 45-year service veteran who served as CENTCOM commander from August 2010 to August 2012, told Fox News he may have received bits and pieces of the intelligence generated by Eclipse, but said Ashley, with whom he maintained a close working relationship, had not forwarded on to him the specific SITREPs cited by Fox News.

Mattis was also adamant that no one at CENTCOM or within the broader U.S. military or intelligence community -- despite intensive investigation of such allegations -- ever learned of anything to suggest Bergdahl had evolved into an active collaborator with the Haqqani network or the Taliban. "We were always looking for actionable intelligence," Mattis said. "It wasn't just the IC . We had tactical units that were involved in the fight. We had SIGINT. Any collaborators who were on the other side and who came over to our side. We kept an eye on this. ... There was never any evidence of collaboration."'

[uhnope]

17. anyway, headline should read "indicted perjurer from Iran-Contra Disaster Behind Smear Job"

anyway:

The group is run by Duane R. ("Dewey&quot Clarridge, a former senior operations officer for the Central Intelligence Agency in the 1980s best known for having been indicted for lying to Congress about his role in the tangled set of events that became known as the Iran-Contra scandal. He was pardoned by the first President Bush in December 1992 while on trial.

[freshwest]

31. THANK YOU, SIR! I hadn't seen that. Fox News is MSM for CT. Nothing more nor less.

[DURHAM D]

11. LOL "accepted fellow"

Sounds like something the Taliban would say..... NOT.

[frylock]

24. he's quite a decent chap, i say..

oh, indeed.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

12. Why are you posting this stuff

if it is from Fox?

[TwilightGardener]

15. This wouldn't hurt his case, necessarily. And he fulfilled his duty to escape,

several times. There's no telling what his coping and survival methods were, or whether he was brainwashed/tortured/drugged, in terms of finding fault on his conduct in captivity. Interesting that Mattis was never shown this by his subordinate, and that he said no one really thought Bergdahl was a collaborator.

[big_dog]

16. according to the UK Sunday Times, he was probably just trying to survive

A captured American soldier is training Taliban fighters bomb-making and ambush skills, according to one of his captors and Afghan intelligence officials. Private Bowe Bergdahl disappeared in June 2009 while based in eastern Afghanistan and is thought to be the only U.S. serviceman in captivity.
The 24-year-old has converted to Islam and now has the Muslim name Abdullah, one of his captors told The Sunday Times.

A Taliban deputy district commander in Paktika, who called himself Haji Nadeem, told the newspaper that Bergdahl taught him how to dismantle a mobile phone and turn it into a remote control for a roadside bomb.
Nadeem claimed he also received basic ambush training from the U.S. soldier.
'Most of the skills he taught us we already knew,' he said. 'Some of my comrades think he's pretending to be a Muslim to save himself so they wouldn't behead him.'

More...

Afghan intelligence officials also believe that Bergdahl is 'cooperating with the Taliban' and is acting as adviser to fighters at a base in the tribal area of Pakistan.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1305184/Bowe-Bergdahl-Taliban-claim-captured-U-S-solider-teaching-fighters-bomb-making-skills.html#ixzz33nxaFEz8

[CJCRANE]

21. The Sunday Times is owned by Rupert Murdoch

and sometimes contains planted propaganda, which I suspect that story is.

Here's the famous picture from the Sunday Times in 2001 that shows Bin Laden's alleged supervillain-style underground fortress:

[big_dog]

23. planted propoganda from way back in August 2010?

the guy was just trying not to die, i'm not making any judgements at all here

[CJCRANE]

26. It doesn't mean it's true even if it is from 2010.

I don't trust the Daily Mail or the Sunday Times.

I don't know either way.

I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.

[SunSeeker]

18. OFFS. Even if true, he was a CAPTIVE at the time.

They called McCain "the Canary" after all the shit he said while a POW. The media rightfully did not repeat it. POWs say whatever it takes to stay alive, get more food, etc.

This report is disgusting and cannot be based on first hand information. Why oh why do you cite Fox News? Don't you think they get their propaganda out just fine without your help?

If you want to discuss the absurdity of the latest RW talking point, post it in GD or Politics, NOT in LBN where you are giving it legitimacy.

[monmouth3]

19. None of this is true....n/t

[The Stranger]

20. Then he would have stayed.

The NeoNaziCons are going to get some good use out of this, however.

[TwilightGardener]

22. Nah. He tried to escape multiple times, and there's no indication

just yet that he ever sought to join the Taliban. His conduct in captivity probably won't weigh against him too much, unless it's known that he willingly tried to kill American forces. I mean...it's the Taliban, for God's sake, it's a miracle he's alive and appears to have working limbs and eyeballs.

[Jackpine Radical]

25. Thank you for posting this

invented RW propaganda that has already been exposed as the Murdoch bullshit it is.

For those of us who aren't tuned in to the disinformation pipeline from Fux Noose, it is occasionally useful to have a reminder of why not.

[Rider3]

27. Fox News?

Seriously? All credibility was lost once I read it was a Fox News report.

[GeorgeGist]

28. Ollie North is still a fucking loser.

Eclipse Group
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Eclipse Group is a private intelligence agency run by former CIA officer Duane "Dewy" Clarridge, who was also the founding director of the CIA Counterterrorist Center.[1] Until May 2010, Eclipse Group received funding from the US Government; it currently relies on private donors.[2] Its current operations include obtaining information related to the politics of Afghanistan and the AfPak region.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_Group

Duane Clarridge
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Duane Ramsdell "Dewey" Clarridge (born April 16, 1932) was a senior operations officer for the United States Central Intelligence Agency and supervisor for more than 30 years, who became known in the mid-1980s for his role in the Contra end of the Iran-Contra Affair. He is the planner of the clandestine mining of Nicaragua's harbors during the Nicaraguan Revolution.[1][2] Clarridge was the founding director of the Counterterrorist Center.[3]

[freshwest]

30. IF SO, it was Stockholm Syndrome. McCain's actions were much worse.

In the first intercepted texts after Bergdahl's capture the Taliban's only argument was when to cut his head off. Doesn't sound like a willing recruit.

When Daniel Pearl was killed, there was no attempt to make it painless. There's no way a POW didn't know about what was coming.

P. S. Fox News is a POS.

[SummerSnow]

32. So Fox news have secret documents that the Pentagon doesn't have?

And U.S. intelligence confided with Fox news these "major classified files?"




here is the actual file...

[BootinUp]

33. Or Faux News Syndrome

Sorry I'll wait for official account.

[Voice for Peace]

34. "The documents obtained by Fox News ... "

of course they were.

[riverwalker]

35. keep it coming, Faux

you are going to drown in your own sewage

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/05/1304556/-The-GOP-is-Heading-for-a-World-iof-Hurt-on-Bergdahl-here-s-why