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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:39 PM Mar 2012

Unnamed Congressman Has Tim DeChristopher Moved into Solitary Confinement

Source: Kevin Gosztola / Peaceful Uprising Press Release

Unnamed Congressman Has Tim DeChristopher Moved into Solitary Confinement
By: Kevin Gosztola Wednesday March 28, 2012 1:17 pm

Tim DeChristopher

Environmental activist Tim DeChristopher, who was given a two-year sentence in prison for making fake bids in a Utah public land auction that was later found to be corrupt, has reportedly been moved to solitary confinement after a member of Congress contacted the Bureau of Prisons.

Peaceful Uprising, a climate change activism group which DeChristopher co-founded, states in a press release posted on March 27:

On the evening of Friday March 9th, Tim DeChristopher was summarily removed from the minimum security camp where he has been held since September 2011, and moved into the FCI Herlong’s Special Housing Unit (SHU). Tim was informed by  Lieutenant Weirich that he was being moved to the SHU because an unidentified congressman had called from Washington DC, complaining of an email that Tim had sent to a friend. Tim was inquiring about the reported business practices of one of his legal fund contributors, threatening to return the money if their values no longer aligned with his own.  According to Prison officials, Tim will continue to be held in isolated confinement pending an investigation. There is no definite timeline for inmates being held in the SHU — often times they await months for the conclusion of an investigation.

In the SHU, Tim’s movement and communications are severely restricted. In the past two weeks, he has been allowed out of his 8 X 10 cell (which he shares with one other inmate) four times, each time for less than an hour. The SHU could have been designed by Franz Kafka. Tim is allowed one book in his cell, and four in his property locker.  His writing means are restricted to a thin ink cartridge which makes correspondence extremely difficult.  He can still receive mail from the outside, but has no other form of communication other than 15 minutes of phone calls per month. [emphasis not added]

Read more: http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/03/28/unnamed-congressman-has-tim-dechristopher-moved-into-solitary-confinement

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Unnamed Congressman Has Tim DeChristopher Moved into Solitary Confinement (Original Post) Hissyspit Mar 2012 OP
Boy, the truth about what America has become can still be shocking sometimes villager Mar 2012 #1
+1 nashville_brook Mar 2012 #32
speechless....... dhill926 Mar 2012 #2
Sounds like the congresspersonis nykym Mar 2012 #3
Send a message to anyone even thinking about doing the same thing. EFerrari Mar 2012 #22
Something is afoul and it is more than the fake birds. (should have been bids --- BIDS DOH!) liberal N proud Mar 2012 #4
+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #8
Fake bids. Bids. nt hack89 Mar 2012 #13
Doh! liberal N proud Mar 2012 #14
I wonder if it's a private prison? One Mr/MRS congress has stock in? midnight Mar 2012 #15
That's why we need to find out who this nazi congressperson is. loudsue Mar 2012 #17
By what Constitutional power does a Congressman have to influence a sinkingfeeling Mar 2012 #5
Really. None in the traditional Constitution it even protects from Inhuman treatment BUT than the Justice wanted Mar 2012 #10
They quit paying attention to that some time ago. harun Mar 2012 #16
"Constitution is a goddamn piece of paper" Hawkowl Mar 2012 #28
It's called fascism. Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #6
That Congressman should be identified. He has not right that I know of to interfere in sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #7
complaining of an email that Tim had sent to a friend DJ13 Mar 2012 #9
That's another good question. Sounds like there needs to be an investigation. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #11
Patriot act basically allows spying on american citizens and that infomation can be given to congres Justice wanted Mar 2012 #12
My guess is the "friend" is an infiltrator into the organization. loudsue Mar 2012 #18
If sent from inside prison Tim would have no expectation of privacy. TheMadMonk Mar 2012 #33
Everything being done by the book izquierdista Mar 2012 #19
Article 58... Javaman Mar 2012 #26
Wow .. Utah prison is alot different then NC prisons littlewolf Mar 2012 #20
It was "an email he sent to some of his supporters" starroute Mar 2012 #30
He should have just tried to wiretap a Senators office. raouldukelives Mar 2012 #21
President Obama needs to standup and issue Tim DeChristopher SDjack Mar 2012 #23
I'm guessing Mr. Hatch... Hubert Flottz Mar 2012 #24
Sounds like a human rights abuse uwep Mar 2012 #25
Sorry, I had to look him up on Wikipedia, bad lawyering, unless he wanted to go to jail happyslug Mar 2012 #27
dont know what prison he is in .... littlewolf Mar 2012 #34
This is a Federal Charge so he is doing Federal time happyslug Mar 2012 #36
Hearsay about an unidentified Congressman is not really much of a news story, is it? struggle4progress Mar 2012 #29
I think you're grabbing this by the wrong end starroute Mar 2012 #31
The story isn't making much sense so far: struggle4progress Mar 2012 #37
In any case, he was released from the isolation unit today starroute Mar 2012 #38
Story still makes no sense: he was apparently in the SHU from 9 March, struggle4progress Mar 2012 #39
Just another Political Prisoner. America has more and more of these every day. fasttense Mar 2012 #35
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. Boy, the truth about what America has become can still be shocking sometimes
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:45 PM
Mar 2012

...no matter how expected it is...

nykym

(3,063 posts)
3. Sounds like the congresspersonis
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:57 PM
Mar 2012

doing his Energy Corporations bidding! Neutralize the threat, business as usual!

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
4. Something is afoul and it is more than the fake birds. (should have been bids --- BIDS DOH!)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:00 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:55 PM - Edit history (1)

2 years for fake birds?

Corrup land auction? Congressman? If the congressman was involved in the auction, you can see why he is having the activist put away. He is covering his own ass.

But how in the hell does a congressman have the authority to put a prisoner in confinement? Something is afoul and it is more than the fake birds.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
17. That's why we need to find out who this nazi congressperson is.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 03:00 PM
Mar 2012

We need some good gum-shoes out there finding this out. That is one congress person who needs to be

1) INVESTIGATED

2) UNEMPLOYED

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
10. Really. None in the traditional Constitution it even protects from Inhuman treatment BUT than the
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:24 PM
Mar 2012

Freakin PATRIOT ACT came about and just ripped the constitution apart.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
7. That Congressman should be identified. He has not right that I know of to interfere in
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:18 PM
Mar 2012

the prison system. Sounds like he's trying to cover up something. And ironically, all he's done is draw more attention to whatever it is he's abusing his power to cover up.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
9. complaining of an email that Tim had sent to a friend
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:21 PM
Mar 2012

Wait, how did a Congressman gain access to a private communication between two other parties?

Do Congress members have unlimited access to the results obtained by our spy agencies?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
11. That's another good question. Sounds like there needs to be an investigation.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:24 PM
Mar 2012

If members of Congress have this kind of power over what goes on in prisons, I'd like to see the law that made it happen. Congress spying on people in prisons for political reasons. That has to be enough to cause him to lose his seat in Congress.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
12. Patriot act basically allows spying on american citizens and that infomation can be given to congres
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:26 PM
Mar 2012

Let's face it HE is a PEACE activists AND you know what corrupt Money loving congress people think about Peace--IT's a terrorist weapon.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
18. My guess is the "friend" is an infiltrator into the organization.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 03:01 PM
Mar 2012

Just a guess. Why else would the congressman know about the e-mail? The ACLU needs to jump all the hell over this.

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
33. If sent from inside prison Tim would have no expectation of privacy.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:11 PM
Mar 2012

The CORRECT question to ask is who (what agency) is passing this sort of info on.

Javaman

(62,510 posts)
26. Article 58...
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 04:51 PM
Mar 2012

I love that book. Article 58 basically states that anyone and be thrown into prision for any reason the soviet authorities feel is a threat or not a threat.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
20. Wow .. Utah prison is alot different then NC prisons
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 03:21 PM
Mar 2012

In NC SHU it is a 8x10 cell by yourself ... 3 x per week you get 45 minutes of exercise and 15 minute shower .... no phone calls ... pencil and paper and envelopes all you want .... books sound about the same ... usually investigations are concluded within 30 days ... this one would be more involved since it involved sending electronic communications to a member of congress ....
edit: I misread the post ... I thought he sent the email to the congress critter
I also would be interesting in how the congress critter found out about this...
hmmm something isnt right here ....

starroute

(12,977 posts)
30. It was "an email he sent to some of his supporters"
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 06:33 PM
Mar 2012

The beginning of the story says it went to "a friend" but further down it seems to be saying it had wider distribution.

That makes it sound less private and more like something that could have gotten out -- especially of any of those friends felt they had to share it with all of their friends or post it to Facebook.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
21. He should have just tried to wiretap a Senators office.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 03:30 PM
Mar 2012

Apparently the penalty for that is a slap on the wrist.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
23. President Obama needs to standup and issue Tim DeChristopher
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 03:55 PM
Mar 2012

an unconditional pardon and award him the Medal of Freedom. If there's a shortage of medals, take back the one "W" gave to Tony Blair.

uwep

(108 posts)
25. Sounds like a human rights abuse
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 04:49 PM
Mar 2012

When the American government complains how China, North Korea and other repressive regimes control their populations, how can they claim the high ground. This is a real abuse of human rights and the political entity that cause this should lose their position. I do not care if it was a Democrat or repub. It is a matter of common decency.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
27. Sorry, I had to look him up on Wikipedia, bad lawyering, unless he wanted to go to jail
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 05:02 PM
Mar 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_DeChristopher

A "necessity defense"? Why not go for the defense that he was MAKING a valid offer, he had raised the money to make an actual bid? i.e. he did NOTHING illegal, his bid was valid. That would have been an adequate defense, but it meant actually looking like you are following the law, as you are undermining it.

I am sorry, he is in Jail for he wanted to be in Jail. His defense left the court with no other choice but to convict him and then to jail him.

On the other hand his placement in Solitary confinement is without justification. How is sending an E-mail a threat to the Prison or its Prison population? Hopefully a Federal Judge will release him from the Solitary Confinement, for the test for such treatment is generally some threat to the security of the Prison OR he is doing ILLEGAL Activities that can NOT be prevented any other way. Is he planning more illegal bids? I doubt it, and protest are NOT illegal by themselves.

I suspect some Oil and Gas Executive disliked his bids, for by "Winning" the bids, he prevented them from winning the bids, and thus lost any standing to oppose Obama's later withdrawal of the leases (The Oil and Gas Companies could have challenged Obama's withdraw of the leases as a taking of property without compensation IF THEY WON THE BID, given that Tim DeChristopher had won the auction for the leases he did make a bid on, the only person with standing to make that claim was Tim DeChristopher, thus the Oil and Gas Company hates Tim DeChristopher for he has no intention of doing so).


His web site:
http://www.bidder70.org/

Peaceful uprising web site:
http://www.peacefuluprising.org/

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
34. dont know what prison he is in ....
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:49 PM
Mar 2012

but unless it is a federal prison ..
a federal judge can not touch this ...
if it is a state prison has to be a state
judge .....

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
36. This is a Federal Charge so he is doing Federal time
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 09:01 AM
Mar 2012

Thus he is either in a Federal Prison (My impression) or doing Federal Time in a State Institution (Mostly done by Immigration in regards to illegal immigrants, but done otherwise on a contract basis). Either way, since he is doing FEDERAL Time a Federal Judge has jurisdiction.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
31. I think you're grabbing this by the wrong end
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 06:37 PM
Mar 2012

It's a documented story about mistreatment targeted against someone who is in jail for environmental activism. That's not hearsay.

The fact that he was allegedly targeted because of intervention by an unidentified congressperson makes the story even more intriguing -- and potentially more infuriating -- but it would be newsworthy even without that aspect.

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
37. The story isn't making much sense so far:
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 09:33 AM
Mar 2012

the claim seems to be that DeChristopher, by email, suggested he might return a donation of some contributor to his legal fund, whereupon the contributor complained to some anonymous congressman, who then complained to the BoP, with the alleged result that BoP slapped DeChristopher into SHU for violating prison rules

It is an inventive tale of oppression, with a certain savory Rube Goldberg flavor

starroute

(12,977 posts)
38. In any case, he was released from the isolation unit today
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 05:13 PM
Mar 2012

This Washington Post story clarifies the original somewhat by explaining that his use of the word "threaten" might have been what set things off. I'll grant you that it's still somewhat fuzzy, especially concerning the role of the unidentified congressman. But I still think you're being too quick to pooh-pooh the very possibility that he was singled out for punishment -- especially since the felony sentence itself was distinctly excessive for a simple act of civil disobedience.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/energy-environment/lawyers-say-federal-prison-releases-utah-environmental-activist-from-confinement/2012/03/29/gIQAE65DjS_story.html

A prominent environmental activist has been released from an isolation unit at a federal prison and placed back into a minimum-security camp after choosing an ill-advised word in an email about one of his legal-defense donors, his lawyers said Thursday. . . .

DeChristopher was asking supporters to check a rumor that one of his major donors to a legal defense fund was planning to move some manufacturing operations overseas. If true, “I’d threaten to return their money or give it to the workers if they’re protesting,” DeChristopher wrote, according to Shea.

The U.S. Bureau of Prison won’t confirm or deny that DeChristopher was punished or discuss the nature of any of his emails. Federal prosecutors in Salt Lake City also refused comment Thursday.

Shea said DeChristopher’s casual use of “threaten” was inadvisable “and I think he learned a lesson that you don’t necessarily put all of your thoughts down in emails.”

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
39. Story still makes no sense: he was apparently in the SHU from 9 March,
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:16 PM
Mar 2012

but nobody makes any noise about it until the day before his release exactly three weeks later; BoP has a policy of not commenting, so the lawyer was sure the tale wouldn't be contradicted

Plus it's a minimum security facility to begin with, and I can't see any reason for BoP to care whether or not he told an alleged supporter he was thinking of refunding their donation cuz he didn't like them

I don't know what was going on here, but the allegations in the thread are all suspect

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
35. Just another Political Prisoner. America has more and more of these every day.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 06:51 AM
Mar 2012

Soon the majority of our population will be in prison. Do we have as many political prisoners now as the old Soviet Union?

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