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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 02:03 PM Dec 2011

Police pepper-spray shoppers as Nike shoe release prompts nationwide mall chaos

Across the country, the long-awaited release of Nike retro Air Jordan basketball shoes resulted in fights, arrests, and the use pepper spray as police attempted to calm frenzied shoppers on Friday, many of whom had waited outside stores overnight.

The Air Jordan XI Retro “Concord” sneakers, costing $180, are based on a design that first went on sale in 1995.

Adding to frenzied demand from fashion-conscious shoppers and sneaker collectors, some stores have been given as few as 12 pairs each.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45777268/ns/us_news-life/

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Police pepper-spray shoppers as Nike shoe release prompts nationwide mall chaos (Original Post) IDemo Dec 2011 OP
Weren't some people agitating for the Occupy people to pay for police overtime and such? gratuitous Dec 2011 #1
There should be an "Eau de Pepper Spray" fragrance. CJCRANE Dec 2011 #2
True story Marrah_G Dec 2011 #13
perhaps a cop's spouse, or girl-friend, as well - was she? marasinghe Dec 2011 #33
LOL nope :) Marrah_G Dec 2011 #42
genius; props. (n/t) marasinghe Dec 2011 #34
I am SO over these out of control Police Milita...that are paid for with the tax dollars of the 99%! SoapBox Dec 2011 #3
This is why I order things off the internet. Quartermass Dec 2011 #4
Just had a mental image of the Fed Ex guy showing up with your package dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #26
Great job adding to the demise of your local tax base. Xtraneous Dec 2011 #46
There are other ways to contribute to your local tax base. BeHereNow Dec 2011 #55
So tell me what "other ways" there are. Xtraneous Dec 2011 #65
I just did. BeHereNow Dec 2011 #67
Me too- or check the local goodwill store and thrift shops. BeHereNow Dec 2011 #54
Just another one of the symptoms from corporate consumer brainwashing. Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #5
No.... -..__... Dec 2011 #15
I don't exonerate shopping rioters for their behavior but I'm convinced Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #16
The ones with the patent leather? EEEEEWWWW! rocktivity Dec 2011 #6
They are not overstocked. Just the opposite. former9thward Dec 2011 #10
Now I get it: They're meant to be collector's items rocktivity Dec 2011 #11
As a matter of fact: dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #27
YES! Can you believe it? Collector items? SURREAL...MilesColtrane posted a link to a site BeHereNow Dec 2011 #52
But these will improve your success on the basketball court IDemo Dec 2011 #31
Not at all... jmowreader Dec 2011 #36
My thoughts, too... IthinkThereforeIAM Dec 2011 #44
Indeed- they are the silliest shoes I've ever seen- BeHereNow Dec 2011 #53
Look like the Penguins spats. Historic NY Dec 2011 #32
plenty of stupid all around for this one 0rganism Dec 2011 #7
I gotta agree with that. RebelOne Dec 2011 #9
'Tis the Season to be Jolly mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2011 #8
Jolly Roger nt Xipe Totec Dec 2011 #14
I am stunned that so many people can afford sneakers that cost 180 bucks Marrah_G Dec 2011 #12
Any better reason to tax the wealthy? Naw, dotymed Dec 2011 #24
I'm not in that crowd! nt MADem Dec 2011 #29
Keep shopping Tanelorn Dec 2011 #17
Damn I'm glad I have different priorities in life than sneakers for $180 and funding RKP5637 Dec 2011 #18
Im with you, I just got i_sometimes Dec 2011 #19
Sure sounds good to me! RKP5637 Dec 2011 #20
Ooh, what breed? knitter4democracy Dec 2011 #22
Shetlands... i_sometimes Dec 2011 #45
Good choice! knitter4democracy Dec 2011 #51
Ya know... i_sometimes Dec 2011 #56
Sounds like a double coat--colors? knitter4democracy Dec 2011 #60
I have to post pictures i_sometimes Dec 2011 #61
Merry Christmas! They sound lovely! knitter4democracy Dec 2011 #62
Damn good price for two sheep, much better than a pair of Nike shoes. sarcasmo Dec 2011 #25
After watching the news reporst about this, I'm on teh cops' side obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #21
So am I. In a Ga. Mall emilyg Dec 2011 #41
I really don't understand it obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #43
Awesome priorities. octothorpe Dec 2011 #57
Unusual to see consumers suffering almost as much raouldukelives Dec 2011 #23
I saw footage of a crowd trampling a small child to get those uglyass shoes. MADem Dec 2011 #28
I'll be honest... Corruption Winz Dec 2011 #30
Good, I've got company! n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #63
Am I the only one not able to grasp 1995 as 'retro'? Suddenly I feel very very old (no!) . . . nt edgineered Dec 2011 #35
I don't know about you... jmowreader Dec 2011 #37
Anyone like to guess at the actual cost to make those shoes? WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2011 #38
Can't be more than about $2.50-3.00. (Not including CEO compensation.) TahitiNut Dec 2011 #48
That was my guess too. WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2011 #58
They're leather, so maybe $20. jmowreader Dec 2011 #49
Being rewarded for saving all that company money, so sad. WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2011 #59
The Fundamentalist Shopper marias23 Dec 2011 #39
I first learned about this from Nicole Sandler (subbing for Randi Rhodes) who sounded oppositional alp227 Dec 2011 #40
OMG my life is incomplete without those shoes!!! Quantess Dec 2011 #47
Has everyone gone insane? potone Dec 2011 #50
Heinlein wrote about "The Crazy Years"... PavePusher Dec 2011 #64
Imagine if people went that ape shit to shelter the homeless or to demand health care for all... and-justice-for-all Dec 2011 #66

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Weren't some people agitating for the Occupy people to pay for police overtime and such?
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 02:13 PM
Dec 2011

I seem to recall that some of the commentators on the teevee machine were saying that Occupy had to pay for the increased police presence to monitor their bad selves. I wonder if those folks are going to demand that Nike pay for all the extra cops needed to keep order at their little sales riots?

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
13. True story
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:47 PM
Dec 2011

Once upon a time I had a friend who grabbed my friends key chain and commenced to spraying herself in the face with mace. When asked "Why the heck did you do that?" her reply was, "I thought it was perfume".



Yes, she is blonde !

(XOXO AE!)

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
3. I am SO over these out of control Police Milita...that are paid for with the tax dollars of the 99%!
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 02:16 PM
Dec 2011

...I want a refund on my money.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,161 posts)
26. Just had a mental image of the Fed Ex guy showing up with your package
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 08:39 PM
Dec 2011

and a can of pepper spray!

Xtraneous

(94 posts)
46. Great job adding to the demise of your local tax base.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:04 PM
Dec 2011

Hey, but you get the cheapest price and without the hassle of dealing with real people! Way to go!

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
55. There are other ways to contribute to your local tax base.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 06:31 PM
Dec 2011

Only shopping in family owned businesses, eating at family owned restaurants.
There are several family owned businesses on the internet too.
Also, several sites that I purchase from are providing jobs for people
who handle the order.
There are so many things that are only available on the internet that I use.
Sacred wood, herbs, fabrics, beads, clay.
Not easily found in a corporate mall.
I don't think shopping in malls is a good way to support my local tax base.
The shops are full of crap and the employees are miserable, and paid low wages.
Only exception I can think of is Nordstroms.
They are actually a great company to work for and specialize
in unique and well made merchandise for the most part.
But most of what I have in the closet is from thrift stores- nice stuff too!
BHN

Xtraneous

(94 posts)
65. So tell me what "other ways" there are.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:51 PM
Dec 2011

You can come up with all the excuses you want about how shopping on the internet may possibly, but very highly unlikely, contribute to your local economy. Sending all or even most money out of town is what is breaking this country. Thrift shops, mostly non-profit, non-taxpaying. Well, actually, throwing money to non-profits will pick up the slack in homelessness services needed to make up for lack of shelter, food, health, jobs from the demise of the local businesses. Even the low wage part-timers will need to partake in those services too.

Don't take my word for it. Look to the experts... www.the350project.net

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
67. I just did.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 11:24 PM
Dec 2011

I'm sure the family owned businesses I frequent
and my Credit Union, doesn't mind my business at all.
And some how- I doubt my $10.00 internet purchases of Palo Santo
are breaking the economy-
As a matter of fact, since they are a US based company,
some one has a job because of my order.
And Goodwill employs disabled people- got a problem with that too?
BHN

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
54. Me too- or check the local goodwill store and thrift shops.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 06:22 PM
Dec 2011

No riots at the second hand shops.
Just really good stuff for CHEAP!
BHN

Uncle Joe

(65,137 posts)
5. Just another one of the symptoms from corporate consumer brainwashing.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 02:26 PM
Dec 2011

Thanks for the thread, IDemo.

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
15. No....
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:53 PM
Dec 2011

the blame falls solely on the out of control animals that can't contain themselves.

Not the police... not the retailers... not Nike and not "corporate consumer brainwashing".

Uncle Joe

(65,137 posts)
16. I don't exonerate shopping rioters for their behavior but I'm convinced
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:15 PM
Dec 2011

non-stop corporate consumer brainwashing magnifys and aggravates the mental illness that drives people to stampede and/or fight one another over a material item.

There is no way this kind of mass programming couldn't create adverse affects on society, self-worth and esteem have become intricately tied to a brand name, at least on a subconsious level.

That's why people are willing to pay more for a brand, they become emotionally attached to it and the advertisers; spending hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars over the past half century have known this.

At some base level we all have our own Pavlov's Bell.

rocktivity

(45,006 posts)
6. The ones with the patent leather? EEEEEWWWW!
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 02:39 PM
Dec 2011


Those Air Jordans weren't cool when they WERE cool! And they're charging $180??? You're supposed to LOWER the price when you're overstocked!


rocktivity

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
10. They are not overstocked. Just the opposite.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:07 PM
Dec 2011

People are rioting because there are so few available. Some stores were given just 12 pair to sell.

rocktivity

(45,006 posts)
11. Now I get it: They're meant to be collector's items
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:19 PM
Dec 2011

Not to be worn, but to be preserved in order to INCREASE their value! See you on Ebay!


rocktivity

dixiegrrrrl

(60,161 posts)
27. As a matter of fact:
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 08:42 PM
Dec 2011

from the story:
"The new shoes are already being advertised on eBay with asking bids of as much as $605."

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
52. YES! Can you believe it? Collector items? SURREAL...MilesColtrane posted a link to a site
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 06:06 PM
Dec 2011

That sells past edition clown shoes- unbelievable prices.
WHO the fuck would burn their money on such ugly silly sneakers?
Here is the link from MilesC:
http://www.flightclubla.com/p.php?fc=la&c=aj&i=011085

People are insane.

BHN

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
31. But these will improve your success on the basketball court
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 09:46 PM
Dec 2011

Because your opponents will be doubled over with laughter as you drive to the basket.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
36. Not at all...
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 11:55 PM
Dec 2011

You don't wear $180 patent-leather basketball sneakers to play basketball, you wear them to make a "fashion statement." The statement, of course, is "I have $180 to spend on a pair of ugly shoes."

No, you spend the $180 on the ugly Jordans to wear OFF the court, and then you spend $30 on a pair of Chucks to wear ON it.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,308 posts)
44. My thoughts, too...
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 10:39 AM
Dec 2011

... you beat me to it. If you want a pair of hideous looking shoes to wear, hit your local crazy days sales, you can always find some neon lime green nylon Converse running shoes for $3(1979 price) (I bought a pair back in the day, thought they looked hideous, and they did, but some folks said, "nice shoes!" just because they were a top brand) or one adjusted for inflation, like $15 now days. Which reminds me why I love visiting my dear old aunty in Denver, between medical reasons and pleasure, I seem to always hit town when the big sporting good stores have a crazy days liquidation.

Let fad mongers keep paying through the nose(both by money and blood) for their hideous, "masterpieces", I will gladly pay LOW/BOTTOM dollar for a pair of decent looking Fila, Adidas or even Coleman camp slip ons.

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
53. Indeed- they are the silliest shoes I've ever seen-
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 06:07 PM
Dec 2011

Hell, I be doubled over with laughter on the street
if I saw some one wearing them.
BHN

0rganism

(25,647 posts)
7. plenty of stupid all around for this one
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 02:41 PM
Dec 2011

stupid cops for counting on pepper spray to solve all their crowd-control problems

stupid shoppers for rioting over a shoe style choice

and a big ol' STUPID with a dash of ~~evil~~ goes out to Nike for their aggressive marketing campaign followed by under-stocking, no doubt intended to push up the price

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
18. Damn I'm glad I have different priorities in life than sneakers for $180 and funding
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 06:19 PM
Dec 2011

the corporate machine.

 

i_sometimes

(201 posts)
19. Im with you, I just got
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 06:30 PM
Dec 2011

a few sheep at 150.00 for two, money well spent. I can wear them eventually!

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
22. Ooh, what breed?
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 07:49 PM
Dec 2011

Depending on the breed and the quality, that could be serious money well spent.

 

i_sometimes

(201 posts)
45. Shetlands...
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 11:56 AM
Dec 2011

rather small and very tame. I have a weather and a ram. They were a local girls' 4H project and she bred the ram and needed more space. Best lawnmowers ever. I tether them about the yard and turn them loose for browsing the black berries, funny how they prefer to browse weeds!
My daughter was after a horse but it turns out-and I am quoting her, "two sheep equal one horse!".
The wool is very fine and while I know nothing at the moment about shearing, I do know how to card and spin.


knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
51. Good choice!
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 05:21 PM
Dec 2011

You can get a lot out of Shetlands. Are they double-coated (meaning they have guard hair) or single coated?

 

i_sometimes

(201 posts)
56. Ya know...
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 10:19 PM
Dec 2011

I haven't a clue! I think they are double, I went out and carefully looked the coats over and there are taller, thinner hairs with less body and lanolin, the shorter hair is tighter and fuller bodied. The shorter hair is about 4inches at the shoulders, longer towards the tails.

I am new at sheep, these boys came up for sale and I had been looking at goats and smaller ponies but these browse well, are very hardy and the wool is sought after locally.

I read up what i could before picking them up but I have a ways to go. I have kept stock of all types, these will be for wool and eventually meat some day after I find replacements. I love that they are docile, walk on leads very well, are very quite and easy to keep. I did hooves today, that was fun! Easier than a donkey!

I need to find out what to do about their tails. They both still have them, some say dock, some say don't. One guy, Squiggy, get poop all over his and I have to bathe him daily...ugh!

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
60. Sounds like a double coat--colors?
Sun Dec 25, 2011, 09:35 PM
Dec 2011

They're worth more to handspinners if they have more than one color or aren't all white. Spinners are big into colored Shetland fleece.

Shetlands are great sheep--hardy, healthy, great wool.

 

i_sometimes

(201 posts)
61. I have to post pictures
Mon Dec 26, 2011, 12:00 AM
Dec 2011

Lenny is mostly grey with some black around his face, Squiggy is multi colored, dark grey, some brown, some black. I am feeding them lots of veggies as per a woman in San Diego who advises such for a healthier animal and a better coat. I will have them pose for us in the morning! Merry Christmas!

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
62. Merry Christmas! They sound lovely!
Mon Dec 26, 2011, 10:32 AM
Dec 2011

What lucky sheep.

If you haven't found it yet, try joining Ravelry.com (it's free and like Facebook for fiber people). There are groups for sheep people on there where you can get great advice for everything from vet care to what to do with the wool.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
21. After watching the news reporst about this, I'm on teh cops' side
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 07:05 PM
Dec 2011

And that is rare for me to say.

There were actual RIOTS in many places, and even gunshots in at least one. FOR EFFING SHOES! Wait a few weeks and get a pair. It's like a first edition book, where you want the first printing.

Out of control consumers. For a Nike product.

 

emilyg

(22,742 posts)
41. So am I. In a Ga. Mall
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:33 AM
Dec 2011

doors to store were broken, mother left her small children alone in car to shop, near riots.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
43. I really don't understand it
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 09:09 AM
Dec 2011

It's for SHOES, not gold bullion. and, pretty ugly shoes, imo.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. I saw footage of a crowd trampling a small child to get those uglyass shoes.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 08:42 PM
Dec 2011

They are hideous--as ugly as they were the first time they came out...

No accounting for tastes.

Corruption Winz

(616 posts)
30. I'll be honest...
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 09:38 PM
Dec 2011

If you're fighting over ugly, $180 sneakers, I think you deserve to be pepper sprayed.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
35. Am I the only one not able to grasp 1995 as 'retro'? Suddenly I feel very very old (no!) . . . nt
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 11:36 PM
Dec 2011

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
37. I don't know about you...
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 11:57 PM
Dec 2011

but it seems to me the people who were rioting over these shoes needed to be pepper-sprayed for lack of fashion sense. Or beaten with rubber chickens. Or something. God, these are ugly shoes.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
49. They're leather, so maybe $20.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 02:28 PM
Dec 2011

Add to that the $10 they probably pay Michael Jordan to use his name, $5 for transport to the store and $5 for advertising expenses.

That leaves $140. The store probably pays $150 per pair, so the company is left with $110 profit.

You know what's gonna be in the Beaverton, Ore., newspaper on January 5, right? "Nike has laid off 10 percent of its U.S.-based workforce. Although Nike posted record profits in the quarter that ended Dec. 31, company officers said 'lackluster' profit margins and sales that did not meet expectations led to labor reductions. In other news, the six Nike executives who served on the so-called 'workforce realignment commission' who chose the employees that would be terminated received $100,000 bonuses for the difficult task of throwing all those people out in the street."

marias23

(379 posts)
39. The Fundamentalist Shopper
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:10 AM
Dec 2011

Consumerism is a religion people. These folks are acting like fanatics of other faiths everywhere.

alp227

(33,283 posts)
40. I first learned about this from Nicole Sandler (subbing for Randi Rhodes) who sounded oppositional
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:31 AM
Dec 2011

and Sandler concluded that 2011 was the year of Pepper Spray...but it seems that in this case because of violence among the shoppers the spray was justified, heavily justified.

potone

(1,701 posts)
50. Has everyone gone insane?
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 03:15 PM
Dec 2011

Nothing about this story makes any sense to me--not the shoppers who stayed up all night to buy the sneakers, nor the police pepper spraying them.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
64. Heinlein wrote about "The Crazy Years"...
Mon Dec 26, 2011, 12:47 PM
Dec 2011

and got it just about spot-on. From "Stranger..." onwards, his societal predictions were so accurate it's riveting.

and-justice-for-all

(14,765 posts)
66. Imagine if people went that ape shit to shelter the homeless or to demand health care for all...
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:57 PM
Dec 2011

all that for shoes??!! American FAIL.

If people can not control themselves and act like pychotic neaderthals for shoes, then they should be peppered spayed.

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