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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 07:33 PM Aug 2014

White House loosens restrictions on lobbyists

Source: Reuters

President Barack Obama is loosening restrictions on lobbyists who want to serve on federal advisory boards, a White House official said on Tuesday, a setback to the president's efforts to tamp down special interest influence in Washington.

Obama came to office pledging to curtail the sway of lobbyists and banned lobbyists from serving on such panels, which guide government policy on a range of topics ranging from cancer to towing safety.

The president said he was doing so because the voices of paid representatives of interest groups were drowning out the views of ordinary citizens.

But many lobbyists felt they were being unfairly tarred by Obama's campaign to keep them out of public service. A lawsuit challenging the ban was initially dismissed, but a District of Columbia Circuit Court in January reinstated it.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/12/us-usa-whitehouse-lobbyists-idUSKBN0GC1XE20140812

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White House loosens restrictions on lobbyists (Original Post) IDemo Aug 2014 OP
Oh crap WhoWoodaKnew Aug 2014 #1
. myrna minx Aug 2014 #2
FuuuuuuuuuuuuucKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #3
Why? Probably because of the lawsuit. cstanleytech Aug 2014 #18
You all need to find out what these lobbyists are doing back in their own Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #20
Some trust Obama and some do not. I think he deserves our trust, and two more years to keep it, Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #26
"is it so hard to get off the perpetual outrage drug?" It would appear for some that its next to cstanleytech Aug 2014 #48
I know, right? The faux and massive outrage is belonging at other sites...I think the pro-Warren Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #57
ooo scary ...ooga booga GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #37
I don't think the christx30 Aug 2014 #58
I didnt say he was afraid just that he might have done this to weaken the chances of a court cstanleytech Aug 2014 #60
Hopey Changey bigwillq Aug 2014 #4
I fell for it initially - I wasn't alone Plucketeer Aug 2014 #10
Glad I didn't fall for it bigwillq Aug 2014 #11
Me too. Fool me once... RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #12
You mistype Fox Nation in your browser?...repeating Palin crap here..... Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #22
Just trying to keep up with all the Palin posts I see on DU bigwillq Aug 2014 #23
SOS, more and more ... and I thought he was going to be kinda another FDR. Damn was I RKP5637 Aug 2014 #45
Again, never bought into the hype bigwillq Aug 2014 #47
He certainly said all the right words, for the most part, during his campaigns. Yep, that's what RKP5637 Aug 2014 #51
Highly disappointing ... one big thumbs down Auggie Aug 2014 #5
I guess this is one of the things he can do now that he no longer has to be thinking about djean111 Aug 2014 #6
Go ahead 'bots. Twist yourself in knots. n/t RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #7
What in the holy hell? onecaliberal Aug 2014 #8
But they are the views of ordinary citizens. Or at least, the ones who invest in corporations. raouldukelives Aug 2014 #9
Lovely. Just what we need. Oy. n/t DeadLetterOffice Aug 2014 #13
To use the President's word: Bullshit n/t albino65 Aug 2014 #14
Let me see if I understand this RVN VET Aug 2014 #15
Just in time for the Mid-Terms. bvar22 Aug 2014 #16
What? They weren't loose enough? blackspade Aug 2014 #17
Lesser of two evils cosmicone Aug 2014 #19
I REALLY want to believe what you're saying but... dorkzilla Aug 2014 #25
I don't believe that. 840high Aug 2014 #31
So, so, uhhh ... what's the word??? GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #38
Well fuck it, why bother doign the right thign ever? Scootaloo Aug 2014 #40
US, the country that just needs big $$$$$ and fuck the citizens, that's where we are more and RKP5637 Aug 2014 #50
This site is becoming more like Fox News, "hopey-changey" being repeated here and echoed...what is Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #21
No Fred, we're disappointed Democrats. Maybe it's you who's at the wrong site. Demit Aug 2014 #30
Not all of us wear brown shirts. L0oniX Aug 2014 #34
It's cherry picking time GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #39
So, are you pleased with this decision? myrna minx Aug 2014 #55
What the ever-loving fuck? dorkzilla Aug 2014 #24
Business at the coffee shop across the street will drop substantially. OnyxCollie Aug 2014 #27
Is that possible? nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #28
Damn. 840high Aug 2014 #29
Makes me want to explode!!! Kilgore Aug 2014 #32
I'm Shocked I tell ya Joe Turner Aug 2014 #33
WTF happened to this man? PuraVidaDreamin Aug 2014 #35
Interviewing ... GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #36
Nothing happened to Obama Unknown Beatle Aug 2014 #41
How could there even be a lawsuit! On what grounds? Owl Aug 2014 #42
Quite an 'up-is-down' quality to that first sentence Cal Carpenter Aug 2014 #43
Well isn't that just fanfuckingtastic. progressoid Aug 2014 #44
Why? I can not think of one reason to do this. jwirr Aug 2014 #46
There's got to be more to the story 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Aug 2014 #49
Judging from the "liberal" response at this "liberal"site, people do not want to know any more, Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #56
please enlighten us noiretextatique Aug 2014 #62
Oh...great...just great... SoapBox Aug 2014 #52
GOTV! frylock Aug 2014 #53
Only if you put the leading people from Greenpeace on the EPA. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #54
How many lobbyists does the president think are in "public service"? n/t Orsino Aug 2014 #59
Somebody needs to tell Obama that Obama is obstructing his mission. stillwaiting Aug 2014 #61
Because lobbyists don't control enough of this country already. valerief Aug 2014 #63

cstanleytech

(26,305 posts)
18. Why? Probably because of the lawsuit.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:14 PM
Aug 2014

By reducing some of the restrictions though it might reduce the risk of the lawsuit prevailing.
Mind you I would prefer if lobbyists were permanently banned from using anything like trips or meals or any sort of gifts to bribe public officials but that wont happen anytime soon I suspect.

Baitball Blogger

(46,750 posts)
20. You all need to find out what these lobbyists are doing back in their own
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:20 PM
Aug 2014

communities to understand why this is an imbalance of power that we will never be able to overcome.

In fact, why don't we set up a grievance board for people to report how lobbyists abuse community leadership roles. Since we all know they have direct access to high government politicians in the state or federal level, we're all terrified of the strings they can pull. It creates untenable situations in our communities. And now they're wheedling even more power!

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
26. Some trust Obama and some do not. I think he deserves our trust, and two more years to keep it,
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:32 PM
Aug 2014

do not forget that.
Hold your fire until at least after the midterms....is it so hard to get off the perpetual outrage drug?

cstanleytech

(26,305 posts)
48. "is it so hard to get off the perpetual outrage drug?" It would appear for some that its next to
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 10:31 PM
Aug 2014

impossible.
It makes me wonder about some of the members here on the DU as the only places I have seen similar vitriol directed at President Obama are at websites like fox news or freerepublic.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
57. I know, right? The faux and massive outrage is belonging at other sites...I think the pro-Warren
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 10:43 AM
Aug 2014

folks are getting things confused. A comment implied not being outraged made one a "brown shirt", no
doubt having little idea what that implies.

Ignorance is bliss, partial ignorance is hell.

" Lobbyists will be allowed to serve only on commissions and boards in a “representative” capacity — so long as they’re acting on behalf of a corporation, trade association or industry group and not as private citizens or representatives of the government."

Turn up the volume on the Obama Outrage Machine, that is weak stuff there to get outraged about.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
58. I don't think the
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 10:52 AM
Aug 2014

President has anything to fear from a lawsuit. He's shown he's pretty much immune to them in the past. When indefinite detention was struck down last year by a federal judge, one phone call from him got the judge to reinstate it. He might has well use that power he has for something good. How about a restriction that says a lobbyist is not allowed to give anything more valuable than a pack of gum. If a lobbyist wants to influence anything, he can use his words (and gum).

cstanleytech

(26,305 posts)
60. I didnt say he was afraid just that he might have done this to weaken the chances of a court
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

throwing his attempt to reduce the influence of the lobbyist out entirely.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
10. I fell for it initially - I wasn't alone
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 07:56 PM
Aug 2014

Second term, I held my nose at the ballot box. Just imagine a Romney / Ryan team. And now we're gonna propel the anointed one... Run Bernie run!!!

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
11. Glad I didn't fall for it
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 08:02 PM
Aug 2014

although I did vote for Obama the first time around. I, fortunately, live in a very blue state (CT), so I can explore other options at times.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
12. Me too. Fool me once...
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 08:08 PM
Aug 2014

A long-time Democratic activist, it was the first non-Democratic presidential vote I ever cast. (And I fear it won't be the last.)




Sadly, I don't regret it.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
22. You mistype Fox Nation in your browser?...repeating Palin crap here.....
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:22 PM
Aug 2014

Hardly the kind of stuff to cause right wing type unhingment:


"A spokesperson for the White House Office of Management and Budget said the administration was revising its earlier guidance on lobbyists serving on federal advisory panels to clarify that lobbyists may now serve on such panels when they are representing the views of a particular group.

There are more than 1,000 federal advisory committees."

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
45. SOS, more and more ... and I thought he was going to be kinda another FDR. Damn was I
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 10:27 PM
Aug 2014

naive and stupid. ... but given the alternatives ...

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
47. Again, never bought into the hype
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 10:29 PM
Aug 2014

Obama is just another politician. He ran two great campaigns, though.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
51. He certainly said all the right words, for the most part, during his campaigns. Yep, that's what
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 10:35 PM
Aug 2014

some of my friends called him, a media sensation.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
6. I guess this is one of the things he can do now that he no longer has to be thinking about
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 07:42 PM
Aug 2014

reelection. And some wonder why others believe campaign talk from some is total bullshit.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
9. But they are the views of ordinary citizens. Or at least, the ones who invest in corporations.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 07:51 PM
Aug 2014

They all align against that small sliver of us who refuse to form symbiotic relationships with corporate lobbyists and climate deniers.
And people wonder why liberals have no voice. In far too many cases, they pay and profit for them not too.

RVN VET

(492 posts)
15. Let me see if I understand this
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 08:35 PM
Aug 2014

Obama wants to tamp down special interest influence in Washington but his efforts have suffered a setback because Obama wants to loosen restrictions on lobbyists, representing those special influences, in Washington?

Wow. I bet Obama is going to be really pissed when he finds out that Obama opened the door for more lobbyist influence peddling

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
16. Just in time for the Mid-Terms.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 08:42 PM
Aug 2014

It is like they WANT to drive the Democrats away from the polls.



You will know them by their WORKS.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
19. Lesser of two evils
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:16 PM
Aug 2014

I feel for President Obama. If he does the right thing, he risks democrats winning the mid-term due to lack of financial support. If the democrats lose the senate that would be far far worse than appearing like a hypocrite.

Realistically, the empaneling takes 4-6 months, so no lobbyists will be on the panels until after the mid-term.

Let us support him even though this appears right-wingy. It will be a different ballgame after the elections.

GOTV!

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
25. I REALLY want to believe what you're saying but...
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:29 PM
Aug 2014

...and not that I was in any danger of voting for Mittens but EVERYONE said "now that Obama doesn't have to get reelected we will see the TRUE progressive he really is".

Not to be a jerk, but I'm still waiting.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
40. Well fuck it, why bother doign the right thign ever?
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 10:08 PM
Aug 2014

Just do whatever advances the party, regardless of the impact this has on the people of the country. That's what it's all about, isn't it?

Who needs principles, when you have partisanship? Who needs votes, when you can get bankrolls? Fuck the people, just cram lots of apparatchiks with D's next to their names into congress so the party elite can be wined and dined by their appreciative masters in the business class.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
50. US, the country that just needs big $$$$$ and fuck the citizens, that's where we are more and
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 10:33 PM
Aug 2014

more. We the people have lost the country. Hell, Citizens United is certainly proof of that.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
21. This site is becoming more like Fox News, "hopey-changey" being repeated here and echoed...what is
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:20 PM
Aug 2014

wrong with you people, are you at the wrong site, who sent you to chortle the
Obama is a failure crap?

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
30. No Fred, we're disappointed Democrats. Maybe it's you who's at the wrong site.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:35 PM
Aug 2014

There's a website called the people's view that will ban anyone who criticizes Obama. You might be more comfortable there.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
55. So, are you pleased with this decision?
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 09:35 AM
Aug 2014

Do you think we have a pressing need to provide more access to lobbyists? Why do you think the president chose to do this?

 

Joe Turner

(930 posts)
33. I'm Shocked I tell ya
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:38 PM
Aug 2014

Apparently there can be no limits on revolving doors in DC. Conflict of Interest is so passé.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
41. Nothing happened to Obama
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 10:08 PM
Aug 2014

that made him change his mind, he's just showing his true colors. He just obviously fooled people with his masterful rhetorical oration promising to reign in lobbying among other promises that he hasn't kept.

Still, the alternative would have been disastrous to the nation.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
56. Judging from the "liberal" response at this "liberal"site, people do not want to know any more,
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 10:41 AM
Aug 2014

their outrage is complete and must not be disturbed.

Let disturbed people lie.

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