Russia Threatens To Release Putin's Disputed Phone Call

[Purveyor]

Source: USA TODAY

Doug Stanglin, USA TODAY 2:33 p.m. EDT September 2, 2014

Russia raised the stakes Tuesday over a disputed phone call between Russian President Vladimir Putin and head of the EU Commission president by threatening to go public with the conversation that the Kremlin said misquoted the Russian leader as saying he could be in Kiev within two weeks if he wanted.

Vladimir Chizhov, Russia's ambassador to the European Union, said the Kremlin is prepared to release the full audio and written transcript of the phone call between Putin and EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso,

In a letter to Barroso, Chizhov said that media reports "say you allegedly shared the content of the conversation with some of your EU colleagues, in particular attributing to the Russian president words that were clearly taken out of context."

The Russian president allegedly made the comments during a phone conversation about the Ukraine crisis with Barroso, who reportedly related them to colleagues at last week's European Union summit.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/09/02/vladimir-putin-ukraine-kiev-misquoted/14954861/

[MinneapolisMatt]

1. I hope they do.

[Purveyor]

5. I still must wonder if Vlad is sitting on a pile of the 'good stuff' Snowden

revealed...

[TwilightGardener]

2. Sweet Beloved Pootie, afraid of a misunderstood phone call?

It can't be!! PUTIN STRONG!!!

[CJCRANE]

3. For the record...

I'm not 'for' Saddam or Gadaffi or Assad or Putin.

I am for working in good faith through international law and against neocon propaganda and warmongering.

[mallard]

32. Re: for the record

Well put and relevant to the current neocon regime change efforts even after all the 'triumphs' to date.

Never a disaster zone of their creation that's caused them to look back, nevermind have concern for the thousands killed and displaced. That they may carry on to the next designated head to roll is testimony to their barbarism.

Reading the anti-Putin chorus singers here is no more reassuring.

Russia did not create this Ukraine nightmare, an illegal coup d'etat did. Why else do they keep getting drawn into it, except to take 'blame'?

[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LZJMmawcgzQ/UHH125W_DJI/AAAAAAAAJhA/zJhEpNOv1Ww/s320/Happy+birthday+Russian+president+Vladimir+Putin.jpg[/img]

[Bosonic]

4. Imagine a conversation with your neighbor

... So when I said "stab you in the eye", I meant I *could* stab you in the eye, y'know, if I felt like it. IT'S NO BIG DEAL, so geeez lighten up...

[Purveyor]

8. Well a release of the taped phone call could settle this, indeed. Of course if

it wasn't favorable to the western propaganda machine then of course the tape must have been altered.

[joshcryer]

14. Then they should release it rather than 'threaten.'

[Purveyor]

16. It would be an extreme breach of protocol to do so and they are giving

Barroso a chance to walk this back. If he doesn't, I fully expect the tape to be released.

I've already suggested the boilerroom response if it is released in reply #8.

[joshcryer]

17. No doctored claim would be credible without a counter release.

I can see it being against protocol but I suspect Putin merely implied what was conveyed, and didn't literally say it. So either side would claim what they want.

[newthinking]

24. Exactly

[Submariner]

6. Was Pootie wearing a Tan suit when he made the phone call?

that's what is really important to the US media.

[saidsimplesimon]

7. Enough already President Putin, we understand you want

to own the outcome in Ukraine. It's not all about you Tsar Putin or your stated desire, and I quote "to return Russia to its former glory". Isn't it time for the calmer, rational voices in Russia to stand up?

[Fred Sanders]

9. Second hand reports of a conversation are defined as hear say and do not belong in any debate.

If any one wants to debate comments made by others, then you have to speak to the other, not the one saying what the other said.

Russia haters do not want evidence, they want speculation, which is why the MH17 evidence is not being released.

[SoapBox]

10. Put your money where your mouth is, Russia...

And just release it.

If you don't, then you are full of bullshit.

[IronGate]

11. Ya know, and I'm no Putin defender,

I wonder if he said it in the context of being in Kiev in 2 weeks for a peace agreement between Russia, pro-Russia rebels and the Ukrainian govt.

[MADem]

29. Is he going by horseback? He could be in Kiev in a couple of hours for a peace deal.

That doesn't make sense.

[IronGate]

30. What I meant is that maybe there's a peace deal in the works and

Putin is saying that in 2 weeks he can be in Kiev to sign it.
Just speculating of course.

[MADem]

31. Ahh, gotcha!

Though I do get a kick out of the idea of Pootie riding, shirtless and nippy, all the way to Kiev!

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[amandabeech]

33. Not even the Onion could outdo this photo.

Vlad, just put on a tee shirt.

[msongs]

12. doesn't matter. all this stuff can be doctored to sound like anything nt

[Purveyor]

13. As I was saying in reply #8.

[newthinking]

25. ding ding. Like clockwork

[Purveyor]

26. Indeed and the recording hasn't even been released yet. eom

[former9thward]

15. Right, it couldn't be that the EU was lying.

[TwilightGardener]

18. What's their motive for lying?

And has Pootie been truthful recently?

[former9thward]

20. No leader tells the truth all of the time.

I can't believe anyone on a political discussion board would think otherwise.

[TwilightGardener]

21. Like invading a country and then saying the troops there are actually on personal vacay...

to which they bring rocket launchers and tanks? Like denying the invasion of Crimea by Russian forces, and then awarding those same forces with Russian military medals? Sorry, Beloved Pooty-Poot's credibility is shot, internationally.

[former9thward]

22. So if the phone call is released, it was doctored right?

Why doesn't the EU release it? Maybe it is the same reason the black box data for MH17 has not been released.

[TwilightGardener]

23. We'll have to see, won't we?

[newthinking]

28. Or like training Neo-Nazi's in Poland to overthrow Kiev's government?

And then claiming it is a "spontaneous action"?

You mean like that?

[GeorgeGist]

19. Just do it

and stop playing http://www.mudcat.org/midi/midifiles/nyahnyah.mid

[newthinking]

27. Because of the heavy propaganda it is not so simple. If he releases it everyone will shift the

discussion to his "moral lapse of protocol" by releasing it. He will be attacked no matter if he is right or wrong.

So better to try first to pressure and embarrass him into saying that the quote that went through the papers was not accurate (Head of the EU commission). Not to mention if he does have to release it he spreads the story out a little longer and it gets more attention.