David Haines, British Man, Threatened by ISIS in New Video; SITE Says

[Purveyor]

Source: The Epoch Times

Last Updated: September 2, 2014 3:25 pm

David Cawthorne Haines, a UK man, was threatened by ISIS in a new video, according to reports on Tuesday.

In the same video, it apparently depicts an ISIS fighter beheading journalist Steven Sotloff, according to reports. The move comes just weeks after journalist James Foley was killed in a similar manner.

The ISIS fighter who carried out the beheading of Sotloff threatened Haines next, reported CNN.

“Just as your missiles continue to strike our people, our knife will continue to strike the necks of your people,” a figure in the video said, speaking to President Obama. When Sotloff was being beheaded, the ISIS fighter also reportedly said, “”I’m back, Obama, and I’m back because of your arrogant foreign policy towards the Islamic State.”


Read more: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/930042-david-haines-british-man-threatened-by-isis-in-new-video/

[SummerSnow]

1. ....

the ISIS fighter also reportedly said, “”I’m back, Obama, and I’m back because of your arrogant foreign policy towards the Islamic State.”

hmm, 'reportedly said'. Either he said it or he didnt.

[polly7]

2. God, my heart breaks for these men.

How anyone could be so cruel and utterly brutal to a helpless human being is something I will never understand.

[razorman]

15. I suppose that if we could understand it, we would be as evil as they are.

[polly7]

17. That's true. I guess I figure if I/We could understand, we could stop it...

but you're right, it is just evil. Pointless, brutal, senseless evil.

[cpwm17]

3. Their cruelty may work in the short term

scaring potential opponents and causing them to flee. But in the long run, they will be defeated. Most people hate them and the world will collectively destroy them.

[starroute]

4. SITE is tied in with extreme Islamophobes and is not entirely reliable

This video may turn out to be the real thing, but I'd wait for a more credible source.

[Purveyor]

5. CNN, Washington Post, NYTimes reporting the same so I see no need to wait.

BTW, I will not watch these horrid videos so I must take 2nd hand reporting as it is presented.

[razorman]

16. I saw the Daniel Pearl video a few years ago. It was horrible.

I am avoiding these current ones.

[Purveyor]

19. Never watched that one either. Hell there are some network tv crimes shows

I won't watch do to their graphic nature.

This is the reason I quit hunting decades ago after my dad passed. He did all the gutting which I couldn't watch also.

[razorman]

25. I've never considered myself squeamish. I used to hunt, and would probably still do so

if I weren't a cripple. But, the sheer joy these evil bastards seem to take in the torture and murder of an innocent human being is more than I can take.

[olegramps]

6. I can only hope that the world will unite and put to death everyone of these rabic jackals.

[Purveyor]

7. Something has to be done, indeed. eom

[840high]

12. Yes. My hope, too.

[bigtonka]

8. This makes me so sad and angry

[cosmicone]

9. ISIS has to be completely annihilated

with the use of tactical nukes and daisy-cutters if necessary.

They should be made to realize that for each Westerner they kill, they risk the lives of tens of thousands of people who give them aid and comfort.

[BlueEye]

10. Save the nukes for Ukraine.

Continued airstrikes, special ops, and perhaps a couple of brigades of Marines should be sufficient to eliminate ISIS. Of course, this may require us to cooperate with the Syrians to some extent, but I would be alright with that. Regime change in Syria should not be a goal of our foreign policy at this point, but eliminating ISIS must be.

[cosmicone]

11. Yeah .. but a nuke would command a fearful bang

that will create lots of wet pants amongst the fierce believers. Look how quickly Japan surrendered.

The world will probably cheer using a nuke on these guys and will vastly reduce the numbers any future guys who want to be like them.

We can then target all the fucked up religious buffoons like Boko Haram, Al Shabab, Lashkar-e-Toiba, Taliban ....

Also, a lot cheaper -- tactical nukes sitting around in stockpiles are just waiting for an expiry date -- at least we'll get some low-cost productivity out of them!

[TwilightGardener]

13. Yes, just toss them ol' nukes around. What could possibly go wrong with that plan?

[BlueEye]

22. I'll realistically consider tactical nuclear weapons for a second...

I know what you're saying, smaller, 5-10 kt devices. Airbursting them in the desert would not have that much fallout. But it would still have *some* radiological consequences and would harm people that are on our side (like the Kurds,the Yzidis, etc.). The global political fallout would be severe, and might give countries like Russia a justification to use their own tactical nukes in a conflict like Ukraine. And god forbid radical Islamists ever got their hands on a nuclear device...

If ISIS was stupid enough to concentrate their forces into a small-ish area, it would be better to use a massive conventional device, like the "daisy cutter" you mentioned. It would be able to take out that airbase they captured in Syria, would render it useless to Assad's forces if/when they recapture it, no fallout, and civilian casualties would likely be at a minimum. A 10,000 lb. bomb would still convey the US's seriousness without the blowback of nuclear weapons, which are reserved for more existential threats to American security.

Obviously in a place like DU, your suggestion will be lampooned, but I actually agree with you insofar as non-nuclear weapons being employed. President Obama would benefit politically by a massive show of force, which is attainable using conventional means. But tactical nukes would represent a ridiculous escalation.

[cosmicone]

24. No quarrel with your POV. n/t

[Rhinodawg]

14. Wow... People here are upset about bombing ISIS.

You are going all the way with nukes !!

"use of tactical nukes and daisy-cutters"
People here are going to love that.

[BlueEye]

23. Reminds me of:

[razorman]

18. I agree that ISIS must be destroyed. But, I would prefer that

we start with targeted assassination of their leadership. No apologies, and dare anyone to get in the way.

[Chan790]

26. I can't argue with that.

A lot of good would be achieved if al-Baghdadi were to suddenly find the contents of his head evacuated through a hole the diameter of a 7.62x51mm round. Hell, we might even let someone else take the credit. Wasn't us...it was Iraqi Army. We've got no idea where they got their hands on an M24A2. No idea. Nope, there were no US Army boots on the ground in Iraq.

(Churchhill was wrong. There are 4 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, statistics, and responses from the Pentagon press-secretary.)

[CJCRANE]

20. So you would destroy all of the innocent christians, yazidis, shias

and sunni civilians to get at a few thousand foreign fighters?

[suffragette]

21. Burn the earth, scald the water and destroy anyone in the vicinity

Then watch more hydra heads of hate arise from the ashes.

I remember when Reagan used to push the idea of 'limited' tactical nuke strikes.

Never thought I'd see similar pushed on DU.

[joshcryer]

27. Nukes have no military use.

Their existence is purely as MAD, which is geopolitical.

[cosmicone]

28. Those are "strategic" nukes

they are different from "tactical" nukes.

[joshcryer]

30. They would kill more civilians than ISIS.

The US would never use them. It fetters with "humanitarian strikes."

ISIS wouldn't be in close enough proximity to each other for a tactical nuke to effect them and they would quickly go to ground in urban areas if they were at risk of being harmed. This is why the US rules out even drone strikes because we know how it works (see: Pakistan) and we know they'd disappear quickly into urban areas if we were to do it. It'll take Kurdish and Iraqi and Syrian military ground efforts to rid the world of these fucking psychos. And believe me, we may disagree on a lot (cept Hillary), but I think ISIS is evil incarnate and I wouldn't shed a tear over their obliteration.

But it's not as simple as tactical nukes.

[Sunlei]

29. Same mask wearing smack talk coward. Hangs around the prisoner jail, he's no 'fighter'.