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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 05:31 PM Sep 2014

United States Counterterrorism Chief Says Islamic State Is Not Planning an Attack on the U.S.

Source: Foreign Policy

United States Counterterrorism Chief Says Islamic State Is Not Planning an Attack on the U.S.

BY SHANE HARRIS SEPTEMBER 3, 2014 - 04:13 PM

The United States' senior counterterrorism official said on Wednesday that there is "no credible information" that the militants of the Islamic State, who have reigned terror on Iraq and Syria, are planning to attack the U.S. homeland. Although the group could pose a threat to the U.S. if left unchecked, any plot it tried launching today would be "limited in scope" and "nothing like a 9/11-scale attack."

Read more: http://complex.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/09/03/counterterrorism_chief_says_islamic_state_is_not_planning_an_attack_on_america

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United States Counterterrorism Chief Says Islamic State Is Not Planning an Attack on the U.S. (Original Post) Hissyspit Sep 2014 OP
Uh-oh. Sounds like someone is going to lose his job! arcane1 Sep 2014 #1
And more Newspeak from the media. Maedhros Sep 2014 #2
In small print at the bottom cosmicone Sep 2014 #3
...at least that's what they promised their CIA Handler. PeoViejo Sep 2014 #4
Never heard of the man before. elias49 Sep 2014 #5
IS is of the "near enemy" school, which is a reason they broke with AQ Recursion Sep 2014 #6
thanks for posting this. Some people are posting the alarmist neocon crap here yurbud Sep 2014 #7
They are, aren't they? Hissyspit Sep 2014 #8
someone is not understanding the severity of the situation samsingh Sep 2014 #9
how is that a threat to us more than a gang or serial killer or right wing militia here? yurbud Sep 2014 #10
look at the isis pattern and think what the worst thing they can do - that is what they are going to samsingh Sep 2014 #12
that is the same comic book logic that got us mired in Afghanistan and Iraq yurbud Sep 2014 #16
they are not the same situation samsingh Sep 2014 #17
9/11 was an acceptable excuse until Tora Bora. Also, you don't stop killing & rape with more killing yurbud Sep 2014 #18
9/11 is reality and not an excuse samsingh Sep 2014 #19
Most Afghans had nothing to do with and knew nothing about it yurbud Sep 2014 #20
Afganees were being terrorized by the Taliban who were covertly supported by pakistan samsingh Sep 2014 #22
our ally, as are the Saudis who funded the 9/11 hijackers. If we had cut off their money... yurbud Sep 2014 #23
i don't think it was that simple. al Qaeda funding partially came from bin laden's wealth samsingh Sep 2014 #24
Senator Bob Graham, former head of the senate intel committee was pretty blunt about Saudi yurbud Sep 2014 #25
Saudis role illustrated from FOIA docs: yurbud Sep 2014 #26
The Obama admin has not made clear which were blunder and which intentional lies and atrocities yurbud Sep 2014 #27
You're joking, right? Hissyspit Sep 2014 #11
why would i be joking about something so serious samsingh Sep 2014 #13
They KNEW planes could be used as weapons. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #14
Actually, that's a pretty facile account of what he said. Your source is poor. msanthrope Sep 2014 #15
Uh...So explain to me again why we have to attack ISIS? candelista Sep 2014 #21
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
2. And more Newspeak from the media.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 05:57 PM
Sep 2014

The Islamic State has "reigned [sic] terror" on Iraq and Syria, as opposed to "Shock and Awe" (which didn't apparently "reign" any "terror" on Iraq).

"Terror," "Terrorism," and "Terrorist" continue to lose any real meaning, and are instead simply pejoratives used to describe people we don't like. Bonus points for cowing an American populace lacking critical thinking skills and courage.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
3. In small print at the bottom
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 06:12 PM
Sep 2014

the counterterrorism chief also says that rattlesnakes have decided to no longer bite humans.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
5. Never heard of the man before.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:37 PM
Sep 2014

It always amazes how many "senior officials" there are when the shit hits the fan about something/

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. IS is of the "near enemy" school, which is a reason they broke with AQ
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 10:34 PM
Sep 2014

It's a lot like the Lenin/Trotsky argument, with AQ as Trotsky and IS as Lenin. IS and other "near enemy" fighters think priority 1 is establishing an independent state; the "far enemy" contingent thinks that can't happen while the US and Russia maintain interests in the region.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
7. thanks for posting this. Some people are posting the alarmist neocon crap here
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 10:41 PM
Sep 2014

and this is a nice counterbalance.

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
9. someone is not understanding the severity of the situation
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 09:39 AM
Sep 2014

beheading our journalists is a threat to us immediately

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
12. look at the isis pattern and think what the worst thing they can do - that is what they are going to
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 12:23 PM
Sep 2014

try for

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
16. that is the same comic book logic that got us mired in Afghanistan and Iraq
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:26 AM
Sep 2014

Or do you think those were a good idea?

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
17. they are not the same situation
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:30 AM
Sep 2014

were tens of thousands of people being slaughtered in those countries when the bush regime went into Iraq?

we needed to go into Afghanistan after the bush morons allowed 911 to happen under their watch - bush had a memo in this hand warning of an upcoming attack when he went on vacation to clear shrubbery.

do you care about the 12 year old girls being raped by ISIS? go to the huffington post.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
18. 9/11 was an acceptable excuse until Tora Bora. Also, you don't stop killing & rape with more killing
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 03:18 PM
Sep 2014

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
20. Most Afghans had nothing to do with and knew nothing about it
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 01:14 AM
Sep 2014

Going after al Qaeda there and to a lesser extent, the Taliban leadership was an acceptable response, but letting Pakistan evac top leaders from both groups from Tora Bora undercut that legitimate excuse, and staying an extra decade after that was indefensible.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
23. our ally, as are the Saudis who funded the 9/11 hijackers. If we had cut off their money...
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 04:16 PM
Sep 2014

from those sources, al Qaeda would have been no more of a threat than a crazy homeless person waving a plastic knife.

that our government didn't do so, and in fact tried to cover up the Saudi role, should tell you that something is going on here other than just fighting terrorism or liberating Afghans from the Taliban by killing them.

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
24. i don't think it was that simple. al Qaeda funding partially came from bin laden's wealth
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 05:09 PM
Sep 2014

our blunder and stupidity was invading Iraq. many atrocities were committed there by the bush admin.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
25. Senator Bob Graham, former head of the senate intel committee was pretty blunt about Saudi
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 07:05 PM
Sep 2014
9/11 hijackers tied to Saudi government, Graham says in book

By Frank Davies, Knight Ridder | September 5, 2004

WASHINGTON -- Two of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers had a support network in the United States that included agents of the Saudi government, and the Bush administration and FBI blocked a congressional investigation into that relationship, Senator Bob Graham wrote in a book to be released Tuesday.

The discovery of the financial backing of the two hijackers "would draw a direct line between the terrorists and the government of Saudi Arabia, and trigger an attempted coverup by the Bush administration," the Florida Democrat wrote.

And in Graham's book, "Intelligence Matters," obtained by The Miami Herald yesterday, he makes clear that some details of that financial support from Saudi Arabia were in the 27 pages of the congressional inquiry's final report that were blocked from release by the administration, despite the pleas of leaders of both parties on the House and Senate intelligence committees.

https://web.archive.org/web/20040928224801/http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/09/05/911_hijackers_tied_to_saudi_government_graham_says_in_book?mode=PF

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
27. The Obama admin has not made clear which were blunder and which intentional lies and atrocities
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 07:08 PM
Sep 2014

and that makes it harder to trust them when t hey are selling a similar enterprise.

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
13. why would i be joking about something so serious
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 12:24 PM
Sep 2014

and some believed planes could not be used as weapons

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
14. They KNEW planes could be used as weapons.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:14 PM
Sep 2014

Jesus...

Journalists have been being killed in increasing numbers for quite some time now.

Beheadings were going on ten years ago.

Give me a goddamned break.

It's amazing to see people pushing the war bullshit at what used to be one of the smartest anti-war sites on the web.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025487980

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
15. Actually, that's a pretty facile account of what he said. Your source is poor.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:27 PM
Sep 2014

Olsen's point was that since ISIS does not have the operational capabilities of Al-Qaeda, a 9/11 type attack was unlikely.

What was more likely are smaller scale attacks on high-value targets. This therefore necessitates close monitoring of chatter, networks, and travel patterns.

Think, Boston Marathon as opposed to 9/11.

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
21. Uh...So explain to me again why we have to attack ISIS?
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:44 AM
Sep 2014

President Obama will need to do this tomorrow (Weds.) on teevee.

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