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muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 08:49 AM Sep 2014

Iran 'backs US military contacts' to fight Islamic State

Source: BBC

Iran's Supreme Leader has approved co-operation with the US as part of the fight against Islamic State in northern Iraq, sources have told BBC Persian.

Ayatollah Khamenei has authorised his top commander to co-ordinate military operations with the US, Iraqi and Kurdish forces, sources in Tehran say.

Shia Iran regards the extremist Sunni Islamic State (IS) group, which views Shias as heretics, as a serious threat.

Iran has traditionally opposed US involvement in Iraq, an Iranian ally.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29079052

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Iran 'backs US military contacts' to fight Islamic State (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 OP
The enemy of my enemy is my friend Renew Deal Sep 2014 #1
Obama and his administration have so many oranges riversedge Sep 2014 #3
This ought to cause some serious cognitive dissonance here. stevenleser Sep 2014 #2
Bibi will freak out on this news. roamer65 Sep 2014 #5
Yes, his reaction will be interesting to see. nt stevenleser Sep 2014 #6
AIPAC will raise hell over this idea. L0oniX Sep 2014 #15
Unlikely IkeRepublican Sep 2014 #31
yeah after doing a HUGE favor to Hamas this summer PatrynXX Sep 2014 #21
I Repeat, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2014 #7
I agree depending on whether you mean the Iranian group or stevenleser Sep 2014 #9
This awful mess could result in some very positive change RiverNoord Sep 2014 #10
Watch AIPAC raise hell over this idea. L0oniX Sep 2014 #14
Who are they going to call? Ghost-Busters? Amonester Sep 2014 #20
Let 'em. I suspect that our current President RiverNoord Sep 2014 #25
+1 DCBob Sep 2014 #30
Yep ...I would expect Obama to a little miffed over the insults yet. L0oniX Sep 2014 #32
thats the problem with Republicans. PatrynXX Sep 2014 #22
Those people were wrong from the beginning Renew Deal Sep 2014 #11
IMHO cooperation has been going on for a number of weeks now Strelnikov_ Sep 2014 #23
Let's make a gun deal. Deadbeat Republicans Sep 2014 #4
incredible samsingh Sep 2014 #8
I had to read that slowly, even then ... Festivito Sep 2014 #12
You might read that as Iran traditionally opposing US involvement in Iraq muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #16
Iran sees an opportunity to keep McCain from ...bomb bomb bomb ...bomb bomb you know. &... L0oniX Sep 2014 #13
This is a huge breakthrough for that entire region. blm Sep 2014 #17
Yes, our support of Sadaam, hated traditionally, Festivito Sep 2014 #18
I doubt that this can stand with Obama flamingdem Sep 2014 #19
It seems like the least they should do. After all... Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #24
Good. The US should embrace this Scootaloo Sep 2014 #26
Without a doubt some 'netanyahunista' heads are exploding as I type. eom Purveyor Sep 2014 #27
It would be very risky for us sadoldgirl Sep 2014 #28
US rules out military co-operation with Iran against IS muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #29
See post 23 above Strelnikov_ Sep 2014 #33

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
3. Obama and his administration have so many oranges
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 09:14 AM
Sep 2014

and applies to put in a row. It was easy for bush to order our military to invade--simple really. Obama is doing the hard work. Trying to keep our boots OFF the ground while at the same time getting rid of these killers.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
2. This ought to cause some serious cognitive dissonance here.
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 09:12 AM
Sep 2014

Some folks here have been trying to say that ISIS doesnt really exist or isnt a real threat or is just a pretext to get America back into the Middle East.

This pretty much shatters that idea/those ideas.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
7. I Repeat, Sir
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 09:26 AM
Sep 2014

Before this is over, we will be flying ground support strikes for al'Quds battalions.

People who cannot wrap their minds around things like that ought to stay out of the Near East, and should certainly refrain from comment on its affairs. Only people able to hide behind a corkscrew without the slightest strain to their spines should involve themselves there....

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
9. I agree depending on whether you mean the Iranian group or
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 09:31 AM
Sep 2014

the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group as I think both are called al'Quds.

I think the Iranians are our logical allies here and the fact that they are clearly afraid of ISIS should tell any doubters how dangerous ISIS is.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
10. This awful mess could result in some very positive change
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 09:43 AM
Sep 2014

It appears that the Saudis, Turkey, Iran, Syria (both virtually all the rebel factions and the 'government'), and Qatar, as well as other major regional players, are aligning against this single enemy.

War is an horrible thing, and we created this mess by invading and breaking Iraq, but the prospect of vastly improved relations among 20th century regional opponents in the region as well as the United States is... really interesting.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
25. Let 'em. I suspect that our current President
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 02:35 PM
Sep 2014

and his State Department would savor the opportunity to ignore them entirely in a matter of our foreign policy...

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
22. thats the problem with Republicans.
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 11:46 AM
Sep 2014

BOMB them don't care who and what 9 wars we start in the process. Just last year they wanted to get rid of Assad now they want to work with him. o_O hey John you were photographed with ISIS before they went to Iraq. smh

course if we Invade Iraq... basically inviting Russia to do what they want in Ukraine .

This town needs an enema

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
23. IMHO cooperation has been going on for a number of weeks now
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 11:56 AM
Sep 2014

A couple of weeks ago I read an article regarding an operation involving Shia militias, w/ Iranian 'assistance', relieving a surrounded enclave, with the assistance of US air strikes. Somebody was there providing FAC.

With the Iraq debacle, Iran and KSA are the only nation states left in the region that can restore some sense of order. They are going have to be players we work with . . . except they are enemies also.

Clusterfuck redefined.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
12. I had to read that slowly, even then ...
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 10:28 AM
Sep 2014

Iran traditionally has Iraq as a buddy!

Traditionally! ?

War Buddies perhaps.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
16. You might read that as Iran traditionally opposing US involvement in Iraq
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 10:31 AM
Sep 2014

which is true; and that Iraq is currently an Iranian ally - true since the elections which got the Shia-led government in.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
13. Iran sees an opportunity to keep McCain from ...bomb bomb bomb ...bomb bomb you know. &...
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 10:28 AM
Sep 2014

This is a way for Iran to make amends with the US while saving face ...and getting those nasty sanctions reduced or removed. On the other hand ...Israel will never stand for any team work with Iran.

---> watch AIPAC raise hell over this idea

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
18. Yes, our support of Sadaam, hated traditionally,
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 11:02 AM
Sep 2014

since they were anything but his ally back then.

Yes that would make them traditionally opposed to our involvement with Iraq.

What an upset to the public relations campaigns on their side and our side.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
19. I doubt that this can stand with Obama
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 11:24 AM
Sep 2014

He probably has to find someway to distance the US even if they conduct military operations in the same area.

Tricky.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
24. It seems like the least they should do. After all...
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 12:30 PM
Sep 2014

...our post-9/11 policies have greatly benefited Iran's regional position. We eliminated their Sunni adversaries in Iraq (Saddam Hussein) and Afghanistan (the Taliban).

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. Good. The US should embrace this
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 02:47 PM
Sep 2014

The only way to deal with IS is to form a regional coalition - Iran, Iraq, and Syria - to work against the group. Very probably Turkey as well. The US takes a backseat, providing intelligence and maybe unmanned air support - maybe even material support to iraq - and we let the locals work together to take the lead on the problem in their backyard.

The US needs to abandon its standing policy of keeping the middle east destabilized. Our "Dictators or anarchy" policy is clearly demonstrated to bring nothing but pain to the region - and eventually to us as well. we need to do what we can to turn that around, foster regional cooperation and security, rather than simply imposing our own order for the few moments our guns are pointed in that direction.

If the people in the region want a caliphate, fuck it, more power to them, it's their world, their decision. But let's try to put some groundwork out there to build it out of national cooperation rather than conquest and brutality.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
28. It would be very risky for us
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 03:49 PM
Sep 2014

to work with Iran without the Saudis. Isis has to be fought by Shiites and Sunnis. How to accomplish that I don't know, but if we only support the Shiites we just cause more trouble.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
29. US rules out military co-operation with Iran against IS
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 05:20 PM
Sep 2014
The US has said it has no plans for any military co-operation with Iran to fight against Islamic State (IS) militants in Iraq.

A US state department spokeswoman said Washington would also not "share intelligence" with Iran.

Iranian sources earlier told the BBC Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had authorised one of his top commanders for such contacts.

But Iran's foreign ministry also denied the report as incorrect.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29088180

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
33. See post 23 above
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 10:21 PM
Sep 2014

All in my humble opinion, of course.

Considering the internal politics of both countries, this is what I expected.

20-30 Special Forces FAC's are pretty easy to cover up.



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