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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 12:37 PM Sep 2014

Legal memos released on Bush-era justification for warrantless wiretapping

Source: Washington Post

By Ellen Nakashima September 6 at 11:01 AM

The Justice Department released two decade-old memos Friday night, offering the fullest public airing to date of the Bush administration’s legal justification for the warrantless wiretapping of Americans’ phone calls and e-mails — a program that began in secret after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

The broad outlines of the argument — that the president has inherent constitutional power to monitor Americans’ communications without a warrant in a time of war — were known, but the sweep of the reasoning becomes even clearer in the memos written by then-Assistant Attorney General Jack Goldsmith, who was head of President George W. Bush’s Office of Legal Counsel.

“We conclude only that when the nation has been thrust into an armed conflict by a foreign attack on the United States and the president determines in his role as commander in chief .?.?. that it is essential for defense against a further foreign attack to use the (wiretapping) capabilities of the (National Security Agency) within the United States, he has inherent constitutional authority” to order warrantless wiretapping — “an authority that Congress cannot curtail,” Goldsmith wrote in a redacted 108-page memo dated May 6, 2004.

The program, code-named Stellar Wind, enabled the NSA to collect communications on U.S. soil when at least one party was believed to be a member of al-Qaeda or an al-Qaeda affiliate, and at least one end of the communication was overseas.

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Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/legal-memos-released-on-bush-era-justification-for-warrantless-wiretapping/2014/09/05/91b86c52-356d-11e4-9e92-0899b306bbea_story.html

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Legal memos released on Bush-era justification for warrantless wiretapping (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2014 OP
friday news dump, eh? nt grasswire Sep 2014 #1
BushCo. should be in prison. SoapBox Sep 2014 #2
So now we can prosecute BushCo torturers & war criminals? 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #3
Will President Obama have an adjacent cell? Bush never authorized a drone strike on a US Citizen. 24601 Sep 2014 #11
You mean Barak "No-boots-on-the-Ground" Obama? 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #13
I don't mean "Obama" or "Barry" or "Barak". I refer instead to President Obama. And the question 24601 Sep 2014 #15
Well now that POTUS has ISIS to scare the bejesus out of us, 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #16
This is an open-ended authority, as apparently was the Iraq Resolution. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #4
It had no time limit, no sunset clause, no review mechanism, the open ended authority is galling. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #6
I think it's a violation of the Constitution. Congress does not have the authority to abrogate rhett o rick Sep 2014 #12
19 Box Cutters = Armed Conflict DallasNE Sep 2014 #5
And "foreign attack", would that have included The British Invasion and The Beatles attack on music? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #7
If only the 9/11 commission had subpoena power? Deadbeat Republicans Sep 2014 #8
What do we, Americans, need to do to get these criminals prosecuted? santamargarita Sep 2014 #9
There is nothing we can do, In America there are those simply above the law. Dragonfli Sep 2014 #10
We can't ask the Criminals to prosecute themselves. Prosecution will have to come from outside DC's blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #14
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. So now we can prosecute BushCo torturers & war criminals?
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:11 PM
Sep 2014

Oh wait. Nevermind.

I forgot that Obama says we're "moving on" i.e. letting war criminal & torturers walk free.

24601

(3,962 posts)
11. Will President Obama have an adjacent cell? Bush never authorized a drone strike on a US Citizen.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 04:46 PM
Sep 2014

That distinction belongs to President Obama and him alone.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
13. You mean Barak "No-boots-on-the-Ground" Obama?
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 06:14 PM
Sep 2014

He does have that going for him, however heartless that may be, or
however lethal for thousands of innocents getting "taken out" w/ drones.

24601

(3,962 posts)
15. I don't mean "Obama" or "Barry" or "Barak". I refer instead to President Obama. And the question
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 08:59 PM
Sep 2014

is this: How many US Citizens can the President order killed without trial before it is inferred that he crossed a red line from legal to criminal?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
16. Well now that POTUS has ISIS to scare the bejesus out of us,
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 09:08 PM
Sep 2014

that line just got pushed WAY further out than either of us would like.

Thankfully (our "enemies&quot Iran and Assad are fighting ISIS on our behalf.

You'd think Kissinger would show a little gratitude, instead of saying Iran's a "bigger threat than ISIS".

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
12. I think it's a violation of the Constitution. Congress does not have the authority to abrogate
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 05:49 PM
Sep 2014

the powers given to them by the Constitution.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
5. 19 Box Cutters = Armed Conflict
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:58 PM
Sep 2014

That sets the bar really, really low. Same with "believed" as the standard for permitting a warrantless wiretap. Not answered is why they felt the need to bypass the rubber stamp FISA Court. It has never made any sense.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
14. We can't ask the Criminals to prosecute themselves. Prosecution will have to come from outside DC's
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 06:52 PM
Sep 2014

grip of corruption. Don't expect elected DEMS to go after the GOP; they are both deeply compromised Parties.

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