Heinous ASL prank moves Drew Carey to donate 10,000 reward for catching pranksters

[Omaha Steve]

Source: dailydigestnews.com

Drew Carey offers to drop $10,000 to help find the teens in Ohio who dumped a bucket of urine and feces on their autistic peer.

By Kendra Beltran

Everyone has seen the ASL ice bucket challenges for months now, but some teens in Ohio took it too far and their dirty prank urged Drew Carey to donate to not only ASL but to another effort as well.

The concept is simple – pour a bucket of ice on one’s head and then donate money to charity. Well some heinous teens in Ohio thought it would be funny to dump a bucket of urine and feces on an autistic peer. The teen’s mother found the video on her son’s cellphone and was nothing short of disgusted and horrified that anyone would do such a thing.

Carey felt the same way. When he heard about the prank he tweeted, “WTF? Just saw this. Horrendous. These kids should be arrested and expelled.” He later added, “If the Bay Village PD wants to start a reward fund to find who did this, contact me. I’ll donate $10,000.”

A Cleveland native himself, Carey felt like he had to do something more. He then said he would donate the same amount to another charity, Autism Speaks. It was offered as a reward to catch the culprits.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://dailydigestnews.com/2014/09/heinous-asl-prank-moves-drew-carey-to-donate-10000-reward-for-catching-pranksters/

[riverbendviewgal]

1. What? 80 views and no comments?

It is pretty disgusting but not worth any comments, eh?

[Still Blue in PDX]

5. I have no words.

The article speaks for itself.

The "pranksters" should rot in hell (although I don't actually believe in hell) or at least are incarcerated for a very long time where they can be preyed upon in a like fashion. Drew Carey rocks. I applaud him.

The perps are lower than a snake's belly.

Okay, I guess I came up with some words for how I feel but they don't add much to the discussion.

[arcane1]

6. Chill out. Not everyone comments on every post.

Smearing your fellow DUers accomplishes nothing.

[whistler162]

8. Okay prank bad and reporting/editing bad

ASL - American Sign Language

ALS - Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis

Haven't heard of a ASL prank.

[RufusTFirefly]

15. Not just an isolated incident either

A home-page headline on the same site reads as follows:

CVS change's store name and ends tobacco sales earlier

[whistler162]

29. ABC online is often just as bad.

In the rewritten immortal words of Wm. Shakespeare "A editor, a editor! My kingdom for a editor!"

[MADem]

11. When someone does something good,

it's worth noting and applauding--and Drew Carey did something good in this instance.

But Drew walks a bit on the wild side, to put it kindly. He has a history of conduct that some might regard as gender discriminatory and a bit obtuse. He's not been a friend to Democrats and progressives down the years.


That's probably why people aren't leaping up and cheering. And then there's this:

Registered Republican and donated at least $1,000 to each of former Republican Senator George Voinovich's re-election campaigns. In recent years, Carey has become an outspoken libertarian, donating $2,300 to Ron Paul's 2008 Republican primary campaign, and hosting a series of videos, critical of both Democrats and Republicans, for libertarian Reason magazine's video outlet, Reason TV.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/celebrities-you-probably-didnt-know-are-republicans/#2


He keeps some sketchy company:

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/07/drew-carey-porn-star-girlfriend-arrest-record-mug-shots-megan-martinez-niki-skyler/

He supposedly has one of the largest porn collections in the world.

He was sexually abused as a child, and attempted suicide twice as a teen, so he does have traumatic experiences in his history which might have influenced his attitudes toward life.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/16920/surprisingly-long-list-people-whove-attempted-suicide

[Enthusiast]

25. Correct or incorrect, Drew Carey is a Rightie®.

[Lifelong Protester]

2. A plus for Drew Carey

disgusting prank- I hope the kids are justly punished.

[sakabatou]

21. Agreed

[redwitch]

3. WTF

This was really depressing to read. How are these kids being raised? Disgusted.

[arcane1]

4. WTF is wrong with people??

[Initech]

27. I was wondering the same thing.

Seriously - this is so horrible.

[Ilsa]

7. And people wonder why parents of autistic kids are

Stressed out and scared. Their kids are defenseless against abuse and bullying. And when they get older, they aaren't as "cute" any more and are subject to more degradation.

Who was supposed to be watching out for this special needs person? Where was the caregiver?

The pranksters need some jail time for abuse.

And the disabled need special protection.

[7962]

9. I love Drew Carey. Sounds exactly like something he would do.

When his show was on air, he used to take the ENTIRE cast and crew on a cruise every year. Thats not something you hear every day.

[MADem]

12. I don't love him--he supports Republicans and Libertarians. He did a good thing in this instance,

but I am not about to nominate him as Man of the Year.

[Psephos]

20. Judging someone based on their politics is a feeble measurement.

Ditto religion.

I have no problem deeming the right's politics and religions defective and worthy of withering comment, but I find on an individual basis, a person's politics and religion tell me very little about their kindness and decency. I further find that when I set politics and religion aside, I realize how much they interfere with my humanity and finding humanity in others.

Issues of character, soul, and decency reach far deeper.

Carey was cool here. No qualification necessary.

[MADem]

23. No, it is not "feeble" at all. You don't think I judge George Bush on HIS politics?

Rand Paul?

This guy is a public figure who has done Libertarian ADVOCACY work for a Libertarian publication. He's supported batshit crazy Libertarians and contributed to GOP politicians.

So yes, I DO have a right to judge him based on that--and so does anyone else.

Yes, he was "cool here." I said as much. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

[BlueEye]

30. I literally don't care at all.

If you are a GOP politician, I will judge you and condemn your position. If you are not a politician, I don't care what your politics are, I will only evaluate you based on your humanity, public figure or not. In this case, Drew Carey appears to be a human. So I applaud him for helping to catch the people who performed this heinous, disgusting, and dastardly act.

If this country doesn't start to excise partisanism from aspects of life that should not be politicized, we may be screwed.

[MADem]

34. Drew Carey is a political operative. He works in support of Libertarians at a Libertarian

publication.

He's not just a "human" nor is he a "private citizen." He is using his talent and name recognition, to say nothing of his money, to influence the political debate.

One more time--since you apparently failed to read what I wrote in this thread before giving me a piece of your mind--he did a good thing in this instance. I said as much. Please strive to read for context before replying in future, so I don't have to reiterate what I've already said.

[BlueEye]

44. No, I read what you said and I agree.

I also read where you implicitly identified him as a "political operative," which you explicitly stated in your reply to me. I disagree with that sentiment. Drew Carey is a citizen expressing his First Amendment rights to free speech. As Voltaire once quipped, "I disagree with what you say, but I would die for your right to say it."

I don't agree with Drew Carey's political views, but demonizing him as a "political operative" is overkill. He's an actor, not a politician. His primary devotion in life is his entertainment career. His political activities hardly make him an operative, beyond any basic functional sense of the word.

This isn't the Soviet Union, we shouldn't crucify people for having views contrary to what is good for the vast majority of working Americans.

[MADem]

47. His speech isn't "free" though.

You think he did those "REASON TV" spots out of the goodness of his heart? Come on.

I won't link, but go to YT and search for his name and Reason TV and you'll see what I mean. He is absolutely a political operative, and he's a "for profit" one, too.

He's a "compensated endorser," no different from Robert Vaughn shilling for some shitty ambulance chaser, or The Fonz trying to con you into a reverse mortgage. That's not "demonizing," that's just plain old fact.

No one's crucifying anyone, here. Why in hell is he free to say what he wants, but you're implying that I am not free to say he's a cretin and his political views suck? That my opinion, as it were, is akin to "crucifixion?"

Who knew I was so powerful?

The guy is a libertarian asshole--that's my "free speech" opinion and I'm sticking to it.

[BlueEye]

49. "Free" has multiple definitions, obviously. He still *chose* to work with ReasonTV...

Financially incentivized or not.

I never said you don't have the right to call Drew Carey an asshole. You do. You have the right to call 40% of the American population assholes if you please.

Maybe this is attributable to the fact that I live in Ohio. But I have friends from all different walks of life, including conservatives. Although I can't think of any friends that get paid to endorse conservatives/libertarians/Republicans, I have a few friends who actively campaign for the GOP. A couple of them know Governor John Kasich personally. Whatever, I disagree with them, we have lively debates, they know I'm a gay atheist liberal and they accept me as such. And I accept them. Too much hate in this country, from both sides. It makes me sick, honestly.

[MADem]

50. Well, I'm not paid by any political party for my opinions or my work.

I'd say between me and old Libertarian, Compensated-Endorser Drew, my speech is the freest of all~!

He doesn't care much for my team, either--and he gets paid to say so.

[Psephos]

54. An eloquent statement.

"I disagree with them, we have lively debates, they know I'm a gay atheist liberal and they accept me as such. And I accept them. Too much hate in this country, from both sides. It makes me sick, honestly."

You're so right on the money. Too much hate.

When I look around at all the trouble in the world, I see now that tribal hatred is the source of humankind's deepest evil.

The very definition of bigotry is judging a person based on their group or class, instead of their person. When I learned (grudgingly at first) that I could accept political or religious differences without needing to concede my own, my heart (like the Grinch's) grew three sizes that day. And, I found that I strengthened my own left-of-center views too, because I re-examined and re-confirmed them, rather than kept repeating them from rote.


I *do* like the cut of your jib, BlueEye! I'm sure those Ohio friends of yours do, too, pug or not.

[BlueEye]

67. Thank you Psephos! You are absolutely right.

"Tribal hatred" is an excellent way of summarizing it, because that's exactly what it is. Us versus them. The vast majority of human conflict can be classified at that fundamental level. But we are logical beings, and we have hearts, so it should be possible for us to overcome tribalism. Then we'll truly have peace.

Likewise, it's true that sometimes questioning our beliefs is ultimately the best way to strengthen them. Healthy debates with my "less enlightened" friends is an effective way to confirm my own convictions and sharpen my rhetorical skills. But at the end of the day, we have respect.

[LanternWaste]

68. Judge politicians on their politics, judge artists on their art...

Judge politicians on their politics, judge artists on their art, judge writers on their writing... unless we know them personally and well enough to finally judge them as people.

Though I admit that one's own biases may easily interfere with that.

[MADem]

71. This guy is functioning as a political operative.

Most of his "art"--if you can call it that--of late has been in support of the Libertarian Party and Reason magazine. He's a compensated endorser for a political party. If he works for 'em, I'll judge him on that basis.

[Enthusiast]

28. I see no character or decency from Republicans.

Maybe years ago.

Oh, I suppose Jeb and George still respect their mother.

But that hardly absolves them for being complete fucking weasels.

Name one good Republican. They are universally greedy liars, every single one.

Their policies have vigorously expanded suffering for millions of people around the world, including millions of American citizens.

Hell, their policies directly caused the death of hundreds of thousands of people.

They even advocated torture—the single greatest crime.

They falsified the reasons for starting a war that caused untold suffering.

They permanently damaged the nation's reputation in the eye's of the world.

Basically they destroyed the nation.

I will not cut them any slack.

[MADem]

37. +1! nt

[Voice for Peace]

14. He should think twice about siccing police on pranking teenagers.

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/4/kids_for_cash_inside_one_of

It's almost never a good solution.

[7962]

45. So just let them be. Kids will be kids, huh?

Those kids will just do worse if they're not punished for shit like this

[alp227]

46. Pranking teenagers? Sorry, these teenagers were more than pranking.

by dumping bodily waste on an autistic person they ASSAULTED the person.

[frylock]

51. dumping biohazardous waste on someone is pretty fucking far from being just a prank

[AngryOldDem]

58. Then what do you think he should do?

Just give a slap on the wrist and a wag of the finger and say Go and sin no more?

In many states dumping bodily waste on another is a fucking felony.

[Voice for Peace]

72. you're right, it's horrible. I don't think they should be given any kind of a pass.

I posted just after watching the show about Kids for Cash and
the corruption in the private prisons. Teenagers usually have
really crappy judgement. I don't know that jail is the best
way to educate them. I think they're more likely to become
more heinous. I am often surprised at the viciousness that
comes up at times on DU. It isn't the cure. This is no excuse
for their actions or the hurt they caused, but responding
with viciousness as I have seen in places doesn't help at all.
I remember something about who among us hasn't ever
fucked up badly, or caused hurt to another person either out
of stupidity or meanness, can cast the first stone.

[AngryOldDem]

83. I truly appreciate the civil response -- thanks.

But I think we still disagree on this. What was dumped on this kid goes beyond a "fuck up". He was assaulted with toxic substances. The kids who did this need to be held **legally** responsible. Now, if that results in some kind of probation, or home detention, or whatever...and combine that with psychological help, if need be. I'm fine with that. But they should not get off scot-free.

Making people accountable for their actions doesn't necessarily involve "viciousness."

[geek tragedy]

59. These aren't 'pranking teens', they're vicious, cruel criminals who belong

in jail.

This was assault and probably a bunch of other crimes.

There needs to be consequences for that kind of crime

[Archae]

10. The "prank" was crude, juvenile and simply stupid.

I hope the perps are punished for doing this.

As to Drew Carey, he needs to do some real research on charities, that way he won't be giving money to the nutcases at "Autism Speaks."

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Autism_Speaks

[MADem]

24. The "prank" involved biological WASTE. It was assault/battery. nt

[Voice for Peace]

13. OK these are poorly raised heinously pranking teenagers.

I've just finished watching Democracy Now report on
kids for cash, incarceration of kids which in at least
one case led to a young man's suicide. I recommend
watching it.

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/4/kids_for_cash_inside_one_of

So... as much as I think this was a horribly shitty prank,
cruel and warped, I would not in a million years turn the
pranksters over to law enforcement. No no no.

[frylock]

52. your opinion is sorely misguided

[Voice for Peace]

74. How so?

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Opinions are nothing but opinions. You have yours and I
have mine, nobody is right or wrong.

Maybe if you watch the Democracy Now show I'm mentioning
your perspective would shift, even just a bit, and you'd
understand where I was coming from, having just watched
a mother talking about her son's suicide after being in
the corrupt system. I would not turn kids over to that
system if I could help it. I don't know those kids, and
maybe they are really terrible evil people with no
conscience or redeemable human value. That's what
everybody seems to think. But I've known teenagers
who did really shitty things to other teenagers, in
the high school years. And they grew up and they
regretted things they'd done and they actually became
decent human beings.

[frylock]

75. what you're saying is that minors shouldn't face any punitive action ever..

because of that corrupt judge. that is preposterous.

[Voice for Peace]

76. no that's not what I'm saying. your interpretation is preposterous.

[frylock]

77. so then spell it out for me..

and don't come back with this "prank" nonsense, because this was an assualt. full stop.

[Voice for Peace]

78. I'm not sure what you are looking for, from me.

I've pretty much explained my point of view. I never
suggested they should be given a pass, or have no
consequences. And I don't pretend to know an alternative
that would be more effective than prison. I just don't
think prison, as the system stands today, is effective,
for practically anybody, not just kids. But especially
kids. Even if they are sociopathically inclined high
schoolers.

Every single person is redeemable. I'm sorry if you
don't believe this, but I do. This is an interesting
relevant video, if you have the time, around ten
minutes long. Listening to these inmates' stories
was an eye opener.

[frylock]

81. i do believe that people are redeemable. i went through the juvenile court system myself..

after doing some stupid shit, although not on the level of this incident. i just don't happen to think a stern talking to, and a wag of the finger will suffice in this case. i never once suggested any extraordinary punitive action. why not put them through the court system, and sentence them to several hundred hours of community service?

[Voice for Peace]

82. I am fine with your suggestion, if it were to turn out that way, and not incarceration.

Better even that the punishment should fit the crime, ie
the perpetrators have to undergo what they made the
victim undergo, in addition to community service.

Except tenfold. Ten buckets on each of their heads of
the foulest sewage available. Public humiliation of some
kind, such that their crime is visible to all. I agree
that a stern talking to or wag of the finger is pointless.

But how do you make someone understand what they
have done? Such that they truly understand, and feel
authentic regret?

Punishment rarely is effective in that regard. It just makes
people better at hiding their crimes. Liars become better
liars. The potential for rehabilitation has to compete with
the natural urge to retaliate against the one who punishes,
or authority in general.

The punished don't usually learn how it feels to be their
victim. That's what's needed, for them to know how it
feels.

[Oktober]

53. They deserve jail for what they did...

[geek tragedy]

60. This was an assault, a crime, they are criminals and yes they should be treated

like the criminal scumbags they are

You think a decent, non-psychopathic human being would do this?

They need to face consequences.

[Voice for Peace]

73. I think teenagers can be real assholes, without being psychopathic.

and if I hadn't just watched the Democracy Now show,
i might have had a different reaction to the OP.

There was a high schooler who was getting into trouble,
so they arranged for him to get busted, kind of a wakeup,
thinking it would teach him a lesson and he would straighten
out. Thanks to the corrupt system which deemed he was
a scumbag who needed to be whipped into shape, he
got stuck in a corrupt system which eventually led
to his suicide. I personally doubt those two judges in
Pennsylvania are the only ones in this racket of
incarcerating kids for cash.

[LoisB]

16. Not much to say about something like this except "Jesus wept".

[rocktivity]

17. The perps thought nothing of recording it on the VICTIM'S cell phone?

rocktivity

[oberliner]

18. Everything about this stinks

Those bullies behaved cruelly, but Carey is a wingnut and Autism Speaks is a scam.

[TwilightGardener]

19. Good on Carey. That poor kid. The Mama Lion in me would want

to hunt down these nasty little worthless shits and make them pay...dearly. (As a mom of a formerly bullied kid, almost nothing raises my hackles more)

[rocktivity]

22. It's on YouTube

I guess the way for the police to start is to figure out whose home that is...


rocktivity

[rocktivity]

80. UPDATE: An attorney for the family of an autistic teenager

who had feces and bodily fluids dumped on him when he thought he was participating in the Ice Bucket Challenge said Monday that police know who the perpetrators are even as celebrities continue to offer reward money to find those involved..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014892232


rocktivity

[VA_Jill]

26. First of all

this was not a "prank" and I wish people would stop referring to it that way!!!!!! It was BULLYING and HARASSMENT of the worst kind and the kids who did it need to be arrested and punished for assault. Secondly, I'm no fan of Drew Carey, but I applaud him for this.

Oh….why am I so pissed? Because I have an autistic son, and if anyone had pulled such a stunt on him, they and their parents would have been hit with charges, big time. Fortunately he went to a high school which, as one student put it, "has always had kids who were different, so we take responsibility for them." (The high school traditionally housed the special ed. school until mainstreaming occurred). This kind of behavior by some students would probably have been dealt with by other students, and not in a nice way.

[oberliner]

38. As someone with an autistic son, how do you feel about Autism Speaks?

What I've read about the organization has not been good.

[VA_Jill]

65. Not real familiar with them, to be honest

My son is an adult now and has been on his own for some years. I am not involved with any organizations as such because too many of them are all about the organization and not about the people themselves. I've been more involved on the local level.

[MADem]

48. As I said upthread, it was assault/battery.

They attacked that kid with biological waste.

[tooeyeten]

31. Where are the parents?

Haul them into court, charge the "pranksters" with some type of assault.

[HERVEPA]

32. Might want to fix the typo. ALS vs. ASL.

[whistler162]

36. Not the OP's typo

that is the original headline.

[HERVEPA]

39. OK. Still maybe could use a mention in the body of the message,

especially since ASL is also a common three-letter combo (American sign language of course)

[oberliner]

40. Does not speak well for that site

Though there are pretty bad typos all over the place these days.

[HERVEPA]

42. Yep. Everyone is much of a rush to get things out there that there is no editing.

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[Codeine]

41. Yep. Nobody pours urine on people over

Advanced Squad Leader.

[KamaAina]

79. Yup. I read that as "American Sign Language prank"!

[NYC_SKP]

33. Sick.

[NYC_SKP]

35. This is, by FBI definition, a HATE CRIME. Find them, try them as adults, lock them the hell up.

Hate crime:

Defining a Hate Crime
A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, Congress has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.” Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/hate_crimes/overview

[TwilightGardener]

43. Yes--these aren't "pranksters". They assaulted this kid on the basis of his disability.

[Judi Lynn]

55. Why would anyone refer to this bahavior as a prank. Doesn't seem like a "prank" to me.

Urine? Feces? Not a prank. Mocking an innocent, trusting young man who probably believed the others were his "friends?"

It was malicious, and deeply cruel. It totally revealed the quality of those involved in trapping this young man in their display of hatred toward people who are "different" from them.

[AngryOldDem]

57. It's battery. Period.

I was outraged by the characterization of this as a "prank."

I have two children on the autism spectrum, and my heart just broke when I saw the video on my local news. But sadly, part of that heartbreak came from knowing that many people see autism spectrum issues as jokes (I particularly see a lot of laughs at the expense of Asperger's, which my son has), and those who have these issues as freaks and easy fodder for torment and sick jokes.

The ignorance toward autism (and mental health in general) in this country is downright appalling.

[JohnnyRingo]

56. Other students organized a support rally this week for the boy.

It seems the rest of the school feels shame and remorse for the vile actions of a few. I believe the guilty parties have since been identified and are being dealt with.

Angered as I was, it does my heart good that the majority are banding together to right this wrong for their school and the sake of common decency.

[Nitram]

61. Dude, it's ALS, not ASL!!!!!

[Omaha Steve]

62. Maybe it is the SLA

http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/terrorists/hearst/1.html

[samsingh]

63. revolting. those insensitive morons need to be put through the prison system

[marym625]

64. Jenny McCarthy and her husband each upped it $10k

So now there is a $30,000 reward to bring these guys in.

[Ratty]

66. I was about to post

Kudos to Jim Carey, his political leanings aside. But ugh, Jenny McCarthy? Sorry, I'm just not magnanimous enough.

[marym625]

70. yeah, can't stand her either

but ya gotta give the devil his due

[City Lights]

69. This is outrageous.

Heard about it and then saw the video. Hard to watch. That poor kid. Sometimes humans really suck.