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SunSeeker

(51,513 posts)
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:34 PM Apr 2012

After Record Sales, Chevy Volt Production Will Resume One Week Early

Source: Talking Points Memo

Buoyed by record monthly sales of its Chevy Volt hybrid electric plug-in car in March, General Motors will resume production of the Volt at the Detroit Hamtramck plant one week early, the United Auto Workers told TPM on Tuesday night. “They’re adding a week of production back in,” said Don LaForest, the chairman of the UAW’s bargaining committee at the Detroit Hamtramck plant, where the Volt is manufactured, in a phone interview.

GM in early March startled observers by announcing a temporary hold on Volt production scheduled for five weeks, from March 19 to April 23, during which time employees would be temporarily laid-off but receive SUB pay. At the time, GM and the UAW told TPM that hold was “totally normal,” and put in place to “re-align” supply of the Volt with demand, following sluggish sales in January at just 603 units. But now, thanks to the GM’s news on Monday that the Volt sold a record 2,289 units in March, employees will be coming back to work a week early.

More to the point, LaForest said UAW workers remained confident in the Volt’s propensity for success, and that many at the plant were bewildered and angered by the verbal attacks on the American-made car by Republican Presidential candidates Mitt Romney on Tuesday and earlier, Newt Gingrich.

“Anybody who’s been in a Volt knows it’s not a boondoggle, they know it’s for real,” LaForest told TPM. “I don’t think Newt or Mitt have said a single negative thing about the Nissan Leaf,” (the Volt’s Japanese competitor).

“They’re attacking our car to get at the President,” LaForest told TPM. “But our car is going to change the way America does business. It’s a breath of fresh air.”



Read more: http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/gm-will-restart-chevy-volt-production-one-week-early-uaw-reveals.php?ref=fpnewsfeed



The Republicans having been working so hard at trying to make America fail, this news must hurt.
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After Record Sales, Chevy Volt Production Will Resume One Week Early (Original Post) SunSeeker Apr 2012 OP
it's amazing what $4 gas will do. ejpoeta Apr 2012 #1
“They’re attacking our car to get at the President,” ashling Apr 2012 #6
Wait, I thought the Volt was a big failure LynneSin Apr 2012 #2
That was the Republican talking point a few weeks ago. DCBob Apr 2012 #4
I know two people who have them Skittles Apr 2012 #7
Thanks OverDone Apr 2012 #21
what is your fucking problem? Skittles Apr 2012 #24
Yes people like them Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #35
that's so weird veganlush Apr 2012 #3
here's the link to the story mentioned above, which I saw on facebook veganlush Apr 2012 #5
They start and stop production regularly jeff47 Apr 2012 #9
thank veganlush Apr 2012 #29
As soon as three year-old Chevy Volts hit the market, I'm gonna get one used. n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #8
The battery will have about 4 years left on it then. tabasco Apr 2012 #26
I don't know why they would charge that much just for a battery? Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #33
Because they're really big and made of expensive materials? tabasco Apr 2012 #36
just because it is big Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #37
I'm sure you're right. tabasco Apr 2012 #50
The manufacturers need to think this through Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #51
Bollocks...eom Kolesar Apr 2012 #41
The Volt battery has an 8 year warranty. tinrobot Apr 2012 #54
Wonder how many of those sales were in California? n2doc Apr 2012 #10
HUGE DEAL! CARPOOL LANE ACCESS! HUGE DEAL HERE IN L.A. K8-EEE Apr 2012 #11
K & R n/t Tx4obama Apr 2012 #12
fed rebate is $7500 for a MRSP of $31,600 wordpix Apr 2012 #13
Consumer choices rise and fall with the price of gas..... Swede Atlanta Apr 2012 #14
I saw one here in Fargo just the other day. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #15
See? Obama's strategy of higher gas prices is working! thesquanderer Apr 2012 #16
But will this news cause The Wizard Apr 2012 #17
2,289 sold in March is a JOKE Zax2me Apr 2012 #18
A "joke"? You don't understand the challenges of selling EVs. farmbo Apr 2012 #19
With $4 gas, the joke's on those not buying one. tinrobot Apr 2012 #20
More like $100-$200/month compared to gas car that gets 40 mpg. SmellyFeet Apr 2012 #23
40 mpg? Why do Ev bashers always use max for ICE economy dmallind Apr 2012 #25
Don't forget to factor in resale value tinrobot Apr 2012 #53
FYI I'm buying one. Zax2me Apr 2012 #52
More joke cars then: dmallind Apr 2012 #22
Aveo, Cobalt, HHR, STS are no longer in production high density Apr 2012 #28
Or you could have had the sense to look at most recent sales dmallind Apr 2012 #30
If they're selling so great let's stop subsidizing them to the tune of $7500 or $10000 a pop high density Apr 2012 #27
Sure - when we stop subsiding ICEs and oil a thousand times more heavily. dmallind Apr 2012 #31
I would buy one if they were $15000 Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #34
I wish they would reduce the price Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #32
I agree, Rosa Liber-AL Apr 2012 #38
It makes sense for people who value reducing carbon emissions and the impact of habit destruction... Kolesar Apr 2012 #42
Well, if the environment is of such a concern... Liber-AL Apr 2012 #43
Generating electricity with photovoltaics probably gets more CO2 reductions per dollar spent Kolesar Apr 2012 #45
The Volt doesn't use photovoltaics does it? Liber-AL Apr 2012 #49
Maybe they should do a Spring Sale for a week Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #46
One other question: Liber-AL Apr 2012 #39
Its a lithium-ion battery. Angleae Apr 2012 #40
Ohhhh, I see... It has the same kind of battery that burns your jaw if Liber-AL Apr 2012 #44
That's the one. Angleae Apr 2012 #47
Huh? "gasp"... thanks a lot... Now I am even more pessimistic! Liber-AL Apr 2012 #48

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
1. it's amazing what $4 gas will do.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:39 PM
Apr 2012

i figured as soon as gas prices went up enough there would be people flocking to vehicles like the volt. and it stands to reason that one because it has gas after the electric goes it's 50 miles.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
6. “They’re attacking our car to get at the President,”
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:52 PM
Apr 2012

“They’re attacking our car to get at the President,” LaForest told TPM. “But our car is going to change the way America does business. It’s a breath of fresh air."

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
2. Wait, I thought the Volt was a big failure
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:41 PM
Apr 2012


I'm so glad to see these plants are putting out great American made cars that help battle high gas costs!

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
4. That was the Republican talking point a few weeks ago.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:44 PM
Apr 2012

I suppose they wont be happy to hear this news.

veganlush

(2,049 posts)
3. that's so weird
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:43 PM
Apr 2012

I just saw a volt fansite facebook posting today that said they were PROLONGING the shut-down through the summer. I hope your post is the accurate one..I'll try to find the piece i saw and post it here.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
9. They start and stop production regularly
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 08:06 PM
Apr 2012

The "summer break" has to be at least two weeks for maintenance on the equipment. The "extension" is to break for 3 weeks instead of 2. They were going to be making cars up until then.

Today's news may indicate the extended break isn't necessary.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
26. The battery will have about 4 years left on it then.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 07:11 PM
Apr 2012

You need to replace the $8,000 battery every seven years.

Hopefully the price comes down.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
37. just because it is big
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 10:25 PM
Apr 2012

I doubt that the materials are that expensive. People are trying to make money.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
51. The manufacturers need to think this through
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 10:46 PM
Apr 2012

we need to have non gas cars so why do they make it difficult for us to buy them

tinrobot

(10,885 posts)
54. The Volt battery has an 8 year warranty.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 11:58 PM
Apr 2012

If the battery has to be replaced in seven, then GM will be replacing a lot of batteries still under warranty. I'm guessing they made sure the batteries will last for the 8 year warranty period and beyond.

We also don't know the price of the replacement battery, so your number is pure speculation. How much that battery will cost in seven years is even more speculative.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
10. Wonder how many of those sales were in California?
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 09:07 PM
Apr 2012
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/02/24/gm-starts-deliveries-of-2012-hov-lane-eligible-chevy-volts-in-ca/


An update at least a year-and-a-half in the making, General Motors has just started delivering 2012 Chevrolet Volt extended-range plug-in models that are eligible for California customers to drive alone in that state's high-occupancy-vehicle (HOV) lanes, as the automaker looks to spur sales from the most populous U.S. state.

In addition to HOV-lane access thanks to enhAT-PZEV designation, 2012 Chevrolet Volt buyers can be eligible for a $1,500 California rebate in addition to the $7,500 federal tax credit. About 140 California Chevrolet dealers will be carrying the vehicle by the end of the month. Meanwhile, the state is producing 40,000 Clean Air stickers that will give 2012 Volt drivers solo HOV lane access. Volt buyers in Georgia, Florida and New York can also get solo HOV-lane access in those states.


That's a big deal if you live in a city....
 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
14. Consumer choices rise and fall with the price of gas.....
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 09:46 PM
Apr 2012

We remember how high gasoline prices in late 2007 and early 2008 led to a scramble for smaller, gas-efficient vehicles. Then came the Great Recession with a nearly 50% reduction in gasoline prices. Consumers gravitated back toward SUVs, Pick-up trucks and gas-guzzling mini-vans.

Now with the price of gas rising along with increased demand, consumers are back to thinking about smaller, more efficient vehicles. And so it goes......

farmbo

(3,121 posts)
19. A "joke"? You don't understand the challenges of selling EVs.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:16 AM
Apr 2012

You can't compare them with IC vehicles... That's meaningless.
GM only planned to sell between 30k and 40k this year and this gets them back on track.

No, it isn't a cheap entry level box on wheels. It's a lifestyle choice vehicle that is EPA rated at 92 mpg-- and that's no joke.

tinrobot

(10,885 posts)
20. With $4 gas, the joke's on those not buying one.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 01:07 AM
Apr 2012

If you can get Volt or a Leaf, you'll save $200-300/month on gas.

 

SmellyFeet

(162 posts)
23. More like $100-$200/month compared to gas car that gets 40 mpg.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:50 AM
Apr 2012

And doesn't come close to making up the difference in cost (+$13,200 difference in cost).

2012 Ford Focus - $18,300
2012 Chevy Volt - $31,500

Difference - $13,200

It would take 5.5 years to make up the difference if you spent $200 MORE a month on gas. Realistically it would take over 8 years to make up the difference.

I'm not sure that's enough to get anyone excited.





dmallind

(10,437 posts)
25. 40 mpg? Why do Ev bashers always use max for ICE economy
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 05:51 PM
Apr 2012

A car that gets 40mpg constant highway doesn't get 40mpg unless that's ALL you drive. Might as well say the Leaf gets 138 miles per charge - which it does in similarly ideal circumstances.

Cars incidentally last longer than 5 or even 8 years, and I'll bet you 10:1 that gas goes up more than electricity (wehich can be provided by home based sources like solar panels - nobody has a home oil well and refinery).

tinrobot

(10,885 posts)
53. Don't forget to factor in resale value
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 11:36 PM
Apr 2012

Your math assumes that both cars depreciate to zero. They don't. The Volt will resell for a lot more than the Focus. So when you're done with the car, you recoup that difference.

In fact, a lease does just that - it assumes a future depreciated value for the car. The lease payment is basically that depreciation plus interest over the term of the lease.

Right now, a Volt can be leased for about $350-400 per month, a Focus would be around $200-250/month. When you factor in the additional cost of gas for the Focus, the two come out about even.

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
52. FYI I'm buying one.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 11:09 PM
Apr 2012

In about 4 months. The second in my family to do so.
BUT, the record sales etc. is a bunch of hooey.
The numbers are ridiculously low.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
22. More joke cars then:
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 09:34 AM
Apr 2012

•Chevy Avalanche
•Chevy Corvette
•Chevy Aveo
•Chevy Cobalt
•Chevy HHR
•GMC Canyon
•GMC Savana
•GMC Yukon
•Cadillac Escalade
•Cadillac STS


All sold less than the Volt. And that's just from 3/4 of one company.

high density

(13,397 posts)
28. Aveo, Cobalt, HHR, STS are no longer in production
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 07:25 PM
Apr 2012

So it's natural that those aren't selling a lot. Savana is a bare bones fleet vehicle passenger van. Escalade is a huge luxury SUV starting at around $65,000. Corvette is a $50,000+ sports car. Avalanch is a $40,000 "sport utility truck."

It would be nice to kind of compare apples to apples, though I admit that's tough when you're talking about an economy car starting at $40,000.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
30. Or you could have had the sense to look at most recent sales
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 11:34 PM
Apr 2012

None of them get 230mpg either so hard to compare apples to apples there.

I see plenty of brand new Aveos and HHRs just to name two still for sale by the way.

high density

(13,397 posts)
27. If they're selling so great let's stop subsidizing them to the tune of $7500 or $10000 a pop
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 07:18 PM
Apr 2012

Subsidizing a $40,000+ car purchase is ridiculous, especially when the average household income of a Volt buyer is 170k.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
32. I wish they would reduce the price
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 01:19 AM
Apr 2012

maybe they could reduce the price for a while so people (me) can afford to buy them.

 

Liber-AL

(71 posts)
38. I agree, Rosa
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:50 AM
Apr 2012

I always wondered what sense it made to buy a $40.000 car to save money spent on gas. If I keep my 9 year old PT cruiser ( it's paid for) I will come out ahead by saving on insurance ( liability only) and car payments. As long as I change the oil regularly and drive "liberally" it ought to last another 10 years. With only 73,000 mi. It has a lot of life left in it.

But if the price of Volts comes down to around $15,000 I might consider buying one... although, I still like the idea of no payments and liability only insurance! Hmmmm! Tuff decisions!

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
42. It makes sense for people who value reducing carbon emissions and the impact of habit destruction...
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 06:25 AM
Apr 2012

...due to oil production and the inherent diversion of water resources.

 

Liber-AL

(71 posts)
43. Well, if the environment is of such a concern...
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:22 AM
Apr 2012

the price of the car shouldn't be so prohibitive. Personal debt is more of a concern for me. If I can't pay cash for it I can't afford it!
I do sympathize with you though!

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
45. Generating electricity with photovoltaics probably gets more CO2 reductions per dollar spent
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 12:49 PM
Apr 2012

And it is almost a lifetime investment. Those panels can last thirty years, although the panels have degradation in the later years. I think at about the forty year point, the panels are at half power.

 

Liber-AL

(71 posts)
49. The Volt doesn't use photovoltaics does it?
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 07:11 PM
Apr 2012

I've seen some prototypes using that technology ( solar panels) and indeed that approach does look promising. There would be no need for an extensive array of national "hook-ups" for recharge if the vehicle were to be also equipped with a small secondary gasoline engine for extended driving.

BTW I saw something on TV about a new discovery in the field that revolutionizes the flexibility of photovoltaics...
Do you have any info on that? I wasn't able to grasp everything being said due to a neighbor mowing his lawn and drowning the sound out.

 

Liber-AL

(71 posts)
39. One other question:
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:56 AM
Apr 2012

When Idling in traffic I assume the batteries are being charged or in use. Where are those toxic fumes from battery activity going?
Thanks for the answer in advance!

Angleae

(4,480 posts)
40. Its a lithium-ion battery.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 05:27 AM
Apr 2012

The same kind of battery that powers your cell phone/laptop/iPad/etc. Therefore, no fumes due to recharging/discharging.

 

Liber-AL

(71 posts)
44. Ohhhh, I see... It has the same kind of battery that burns your jaw if
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:34 AM
Apr 2012

you talk too long on your cell phone! I guess there is some kind of heat shield to to ward off the radiation so I feel safer already.
I will have to look at the crash test results on this car before I am thoroughly convinced it is worth 40,000 big ones. But , then again nothing is worth what the consumer pays for it... we seem to always get the shaft! Sorry to sound so pessimistic but that has been my experience with few exceptions!

Angleae

(4,480 posts)
47. That's the one.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 05:37 PM
Apr 2012

You might also look into the reports of the battery catching on fire to see if they are true, and if so, if they've fixed it.

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