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Judi Lynn

(160,530 posts)
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:17 PM Sep 2014

Cities fear violence as militia groups threaten to shut down border crossings

Source: Raw Story

Cities fear violence as militia groups threaten to shut down border crossings
Travis Gettys
15 Sep 2014

Border militias are threatening to block international ports of entry along the U.S.-Mexico border later this week to protest the jailing of a Marine reservist on Mexican weapons charges, and authorities fear the protests could spark violence.

Law enforcement officials and city leaders in the region have met with officials from U.S. Customs and Border Protection to discuss the planned demonstration.

Organizers said they would block indefinitely bridges and other ports of entry beginning Saturday to protest illegal crossings by undocumented migrants and the jailing in Mexico of a former U.S. Marine, Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi, on weapons charges.

The protest was launched by Stasyi Barth, a 41-year-old married mother of three from Lake Elsinore, California, who said she has been angry for years about illegal immigration but decided to take action after the Marine veteran’s arrest “kind of pushed it over the edge.”

She connected on Facebook with Rob Chupp (pictured above), an Indiana truck driver active in the border militia movement, to organize the “Shut Down All Ports” protest.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/blog/2014/09/15/cities-fear-violence-as-militia-groups-threaten-to-shut-down-border-crossings/

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Cities fear violence as militia groups threaten to shut down border crossings (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2014 OP
Sounds like a terrorist threat to me. lark Sep 2014 #1
+10000 heaven05 Sep 2014 #7
Looks Like A Job For A Militarized Police Force, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2014 #2
And You Sir, Sound Suspiciously Like A Kennedy Era, Big Government, Police State Liberal! :) freshwest Sep 2014 #17
I Notice the articles do NOT mention the Role of the Mississippi National Guard happyslug Sep 2014 #18
If it was a union hollowdweller Sep 2014 #3
I so hope they do albino65 Sep 2014 #4
Nothing will happen to them. atreides1 Sep 2014 #5
go for it heaven05 Sep 2014 #6
Lock up every one of the sonsabitches OldRedneck Sep 2014 #8
Lake Elsinore...that explains it all, a hotbed of neo KKK + meth nt msongs Sep 2014 #9
This is insane, you know Demeter Sep 2014 #10
This is why I agree with Bill Maher that Fox News is the most dangerous element in American Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #11
The Bundy ranche situtation attracted a fair amount of folks. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #21
What is the story behind the marine? jwirr Sep 2014 #12
Accused of gunrunning nt independentpiney Sep 2014 #19
Wouldn't you know it. The militia wants to protect a gun runner. No surprise there. Let him rot. jwirr Sep 2014 #20
Let's see if the Feds will man up against this THREAT, or whether the Feds strong arming is reserved blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #13
National Guards will have to wait until some unarmed, innocent black teen valerief Sep 2014 #14
Fox News has a big hand in this. dem in texas Sep 2014 #15
Hopefully, it'll be another tempest in a teapot... Rozlee Sep 2014 #16

lark

(23,099 posts)
1. Sounds like a terrorist threat to me.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:20 PM
Sep 2014

Oh wait, we don't count acts of terror unless done by brown skinned folks. We look the other way when domestic white skinned folks disrupt the government.


The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
2. Looks Like A Job For A Militarized Police Force, Ma'am
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:22 PM
Sep 2014

Backed up by genuine militia, the state national guard, under federal authority....

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
17. And You Sir, Sound Suspiciously Like A Kennedy Era, Big Government, Police State Liberal! :)
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 03:57 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Mon Sep 15, 2014, 05:58 PM - Edit history (1)

We are fast approaching the anniversary of the Battle of Oxford, MS:


October 1, 1962

James Meredith became the first black American to attend classes at the University of Mississippi in Oxford. In the nearly two years Meredith spent trying to register for classes at then all-white “Ole Miss,” he had to file a federal lawsuit and, ultimately, be escorted through registration by U.S. Justice department attorney John Doar, protected by U.S. Army troops.

The night before whites had rioted and attacked U.S. Marshalls after Mississippi Highway Patrol officers withdrew as the crowd became larger and more unruly.

President John F. Kennedy and Attorney General Robert Kennedy sent the troops and federalized the state’s National Guard to enforce the federal court’s order which Governor Ross Barnett refused to accept.

Meredith went on to graduate in 1964 and still lives nearby.


http://www.peacebuttons.info/E-News/peacehistoryoctober.htm

More on the Battle of Oxford:

...The incident was a white riot that exploded into a ferocious and chaotic battle that saw U.S. federal marshals fighting for their lives in hand to hand combat. "I was more frightened at Mississippi," said one marshal, "than I was at Pearl Harbor or any other time during the war."

The battle climaxed in a lightning invasion of Mississippi by 30,000 U.S. combat troops, which was more soldiers than the U.S. had in Korea, and six times more soldiers than were stationed in Berlin. The battle resulted in 375 military and civilian casualties, 300 civilian arrests, and two innocent civilians being killed in circumstances that are a mystery to this day.

The event was triggered by a young Mississippi soldier, a black Air Force veteran named James Meredith. I spent many hours interviewing him for my book, and found him to be a fascinating, sometimes perplexing man, in some ways forty or fifty years ahead of his time...

"I considered myself an active duty soldier," Meredith explained. "I was at war, and everything I did I considered an act of war..."


Many amazing details at the link here:

https://www.randomhouse.com/boldtype/1101/doyle/essay.html

For those who are worried sleepless about the Fourth Amendment and the NSA, they might do well to consider the article. Blacks lived under the the thumb of the 'KGB' as described there. And we all know the penalty for simply Being While Black in the USA.

Once more, the KKK raises its benighted knights, but in the border states, with full media compliance. One may say their target is more legitimate this time, as they are not citizens. But I say the target is really the American government.

My post on Oxford earlier with a picture of the troops:

James Howard Meredith (born June 25, 1933) is an American civil rights movement figure, a writer, and a political adviser. In 1962, he was the first African-American student admitted to the segregated University of Mississippi,[1] an event that was a flashpoint in the American civil rights movement.

Motivated by President John F. Kennedy's inaugural address, Meredith decided to exercise his constitutional rights and apply to the University of Mississippi.[2] His goal was to put pressure on the Kennedy administration to enforce civil rights for African Americans...


Meredith won in court, but the Governor still fought it, and RFK talked him into following the law and admitting him. Federal law, not state law.

Some white students and segregationists, many who had driven in for the event, protested his enrollment by rioting on the Oxford campus.

Robert Kennedy called in 500 U.S. Marshals to take control, who were supported by the 70th Army Engineer Combat Battalion from Ft Campbell, Kentucky. They created a tent camp and kitchen for the US Marshals.

To bolster law enforcement, President John F. Kennedy sent in U.S. Army troops from the 2nd Infantry Division from Ft. Benning, GA under the command of Maj. Gen Charles Billingslea and military police from the 503rd Military Police Battalion, and called in troops from the Mississippi Army National Guard.[13]

Gen. Bllingslea's staff car was mobbed and set on fire at the entrance to the university gate. General Billingslea, the Deputy Commanding General, John Corley, and aide, Capt Harold Lyon, were trapped inside the burning car but managed to force the car door open and had to crawl 200 yards into the gate to the University Lyceum Building while someone was shooting at them and continued to shoot the windows out, though the Army never returned fire.

Gen Billingslea had established a series of escalating secret code words for issuing ammunition down to the platoons with another one for issuing it to squads, and a third one for loading, none of which could take place without the General himself, confirming the secret codes.

In the violent clash, two people died, including the French journalist Paul Guihard,[7] on assignment for the London Daily Sketch. He was found dead behind the Lyceum building with a gunshot wound to the back.

One hundred-sixty US Marshals, one-third of the group, were injured in the melee, and 40 soldiers and National Guardsmen were wounded.[7][1[13]



US Army trucks loaded with steel-helmeted US Marshals roll across the University of Mississippi campus on October 3, 1962.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Meredith

During this time, he was advised by Medgar Evers, who was a WW2 veteran and a civil rights leader.



Evers was also inspired by Kennedy and killed hours after he came home to tell his family JFK had announced his support of civil rights on television. Terrorists gunned him down in his front yard in view of his wife and children.



In the early morning of June 12, 1963, just hours after President John F. Kennedy's speech on national television in support of civil rights, Evers pulled into his driveway after returning from a meeting with NAACP lawyers. Emerging from his car and carrying NAACP T-shirts that read "Jim Crow Must Go," Evers was struck in the back with a bullet fired from an Enfield 1917 rifle; the bullet ripped through his heart. He staggered 9 meters (30 feet) before collapsing.

He was taken to the local hospital in Jackson where he was initially refused entry because of his color, until it was explained who he was; he died in the hospital.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medgar_Evers#Assassination

All these leaders were attacked repeatedly and denied the most basic of human rights. Meredith was and is a wise, successful man with his own strong views shown at the link. Terrorists have not stopped hating:

In 2014, vandals linked to the Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity vandalized Meredith's honorary University of Mississippi campus statue by putting a noose around its neck and draping it with a controversial former Georgia state flag. In response, he said "that just clearly shows that we’re not training our children like the Bible says. They don’t know right and wrong, good and bad and how to apply it to life."[1]

I've read varying reports, some say Meredith didn't care for the statue. Also he still wants acknowledgement that there was a war going on against blacks. Other reports dispute the number of troops, in some reports there were 20,000, others 30,000, yet another says there only 3,000. Even if the last were true, that's a lot of armed men.

The 20K or 30K amount sounds right to me, as some reports say the KKK called for 20,000 to show up to fight the 'tyranny of federal government troops' invading and interfering with the state's right to deny Meredith a seat at Ol' Miss. Sounds familiar to me.

Our current crop of Tenthers, Teaterrorists and Libertarians and certain others would have called what you suggest and what the Kennedys and the military did the action of a Police State.

I look forward to reading your opinion of what Kennedy did and why it was necessary. While I have my own interpretation, I am interested in your take, if you have the time.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
18. I Notice the articles do NOT mention the Role of the Mississippi National Guard
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 05:32 PM
Sep 2014

The Article said the Mississippi National Guard was called into Federal Service, but not what they did in Federal Service. They sat in their barracks. President Kennedy did that so that the Governor of Mississippi could not call them out on State Service. In Federal Service, no one had any faith in the Mississippi National Guard troops thus they sat in the barracks.

Now, after things calmed down, the Regular troops were withdrawn and the Mississippi National Guard took over their function of "guarding" the university so that no further riot occurred, but it was clear the member of the Mississippi National Guard were NOT neutral.

Today's National Guard, including the Mississippi National Guard is much more integrated and tolerate then the Mississippi National Guard of 1962 but we have to remember what the Mississippi National Guard was in 1962 to fully understand why Kennedy did what he did.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
3. If it was a union
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:26 PM
Sep 2014

They'd send in the national guard.

Being a militia they will probably let them get away with it.

 

albino65

(484 posts)
4. I so hope they do
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:27 PM
Sep 2014

I also hope they invade Mexico and pull their bullshit down there. They can cool their heels in a Mexican prison for 20 yrs.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
5. Nothing will happen to them.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:28 PM
Sep 2014

If they go ahead with this plan...the feds will do the same thing that they did at the Bundy ranch, nothing!!!


Maybe if the Occupy protesters had been armed, the cops would have left them alone too...

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
8. Lock up every one of the sonsabitches
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:32 PM
Sep 2014

The fact that the US guvmint took no action against the criminals -- calling themselves "militia" -- at the Bundy ranch has now emboldened every unemployed, pot-bellied, half-wit in the country. Let's hope someone in the Border Patrol, local cops, or US Marshal's Service has the cajones to slap 'em all in jail and throw away the key.

But don't count on it.

Where's Janet Reno when we need her? She has bigger cajones than every current federal law enforcement officer combined.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
10. This is insane, you know
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:35 PM
Sep 2014

If the US doesn't take care of these clowns, Putin will be laughing in his vodka.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
11. This is why I agree with Bill Maher that Fox News is the most dangerous element in American
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:39 PM
Sep 2014

politics, the brainwashing of vast number of idiots with guns and anger management issues is the intention.

On the other hand I bet only a handful of useful idiots will show up, there are not that many able to lift themselves out of their government supplied scooters to go to any protest, let alone all the way at some border.

More bark than bite yet again.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
21. The Bundy ranche situtation attracted a fair amount of folks.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 09:26 PM
Sep 2014

This could too. I hope no one gets killed.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
13. Let's see if the Feds will man up against this THREAT, or whether the Feds strong arming is reserved
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 02:28 PM
Sep 2014

solely for Occupy Wall Street and other Liberal/Progressive groups.

I bet I already know the answer. Pffft!

valerief

(53,235 posts)
14. National Guards will have to wait until some unarmed, innocent black teen
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 02:48 PM
Sep 2014

turns up down there, so they can shoot wildly and possibly curb this militia terrorism.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
15. Fox News has a big hand in this.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 03:16 PM
Sep 2014

They continually reported about this Marine, but the Marine's story is fishy and the only way it makes sense is that he went to Mexico to try and sell guns. He crossed over the border twice that day and each checked into a different hotel. Anyway, Fox has fanned the story, "Poor American Marine, held in primitive Mexican jail for doing nothing wrong", for all it is worth.

I hope we don't have problems with weekend, but the Patriot groups are spoiling for a fight. When the Feds didn't do anything to old man Bundy, they got the idea that the Feds are afraid of them.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
16. Hopefully, it'll be another tempest in a teapot...
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 03:29 PM
Sep 2014

like so many of them have been lately, with them claiming they have millions of patriots signed up, but only a handful show up.

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