Vikings: Adrian Peterson won't play until legal issues are resolved

[Crabby Appleton]

Source: CNN

(CNN) -- Running back Adrian Peterson will not play again for the Minnesota Vikings until his legal issues are resolved, the team said early Wednesday.

Peterson has been placed on the NFL's Exempt/Commissioner's Permission list, which will require that Adrian "remain away from all team activities."

Peterson, who was kept out of Sunday's game against the New England Patriots, turned himself in to East Texas authorities Saturday, two days after an indictment alleged the 29-year-old father did "recklessly or by criminal negligence cause bodily injury" to his son, a felony.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/17/us/adrian-peterson-child-abuse-charges/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[KeepItReal]

1. Late night K&R

eom

[rpannier]

2. I agree he shouldn't be allowed to play at this time

I think being place on the Exempt/Commissioner's Permission List is appropriate as it
1. Shows some seriousness on the part of the Vikings
2. It gets the circus atmosphere away from Minnesota (Spielman's press conference was painful to watch)
3. He will still get paid, as he should, he's been convicted of nothing so far
4. He does need to get this addressed. These are serious charges and should be his priority
5. It will likely make him think twice about delaying the trial to complete the season.

on note: I doubt they'll get a conviction. Not because it's Texas, not because people are callous. But, his attorney will paint it as overreach by the government and that corporal punishment is not abuse (a position I agree with)
His attorney will have to get the jury to look past the pictures.

[santroy79]

6. are you a vikings fan or something?

He should be locked away & the Vikings wanted to play him so they get no credit for doing this.

The guy is garbage.

He will be convicted.

He took leaves off the branch of a tree and shoved them in a 4 year olds mouth then beat the kid with the branch.

[rpannier]

14. No I am not

I am a Bears fan
Never liked the Vikings, Never will

As to, 'He should be locked away'
Please never sit on a jury.
Your presumption of guilt is bothersome

[santroy79]

49. so the pictures or the history means nothing to you?

I guess Ray Rice isnt guilty either since he didnt go on trial and has no record


give me a break. Too many kids are abused by these low life scum bags and get away with it.

[rpannier]

51. I repeat

Please never sit on a jury
Have the decency and honesty to admit to the judge that you lack the capability to look at all the evidence without letting your bias' get in the way
Lotta people have been released from jail over the past decade because people had your moral certainty (read outrage) and were wrong

[santroy79]

57. Well I hope you never work

for child protective services because your a lost individual.

Lets see. The doctors saw the wounds, The child & siblings told them of the beatings & beating room, there are pictures, oh wait, whats that???? He admitted to it? he already gave testimony saying he beat the child but didnt try to leave those marks?

There wont be a jury for crying out loud! he will plead out.


I repeat !!!!!!!!!!! NEVER WORK for child protective services

[TBF]

10. It isn't only one incident - they've got 2

Rusty Hardin is really good (his defense atty) but explaining away a pattern of behavior just made this case more difficult.

[rpannier]

15. First one was investigated. No charges filed

That won't be that difficult for him to explain away
He can argue that something that appears that obvious, is investigated and found to have no merit is likely proof it wasn't real

The problem will only come if it is re-investigated and found to have merit or if another accusation surfaces

[TBF]

18. The thing is the "pattern" -

the DA doesn't need a conviction from that first case - only that there was an investigation.

[rpannier]

19. A Pattern of What

Someone made an accusation that was determined to have no merit
So the pattern is two accusations, one of which was investigated and determined to be baseless

In a court of law that is not a pattern and judges would likely not allow it to even be mentioned as it would be considered prejudicial

[TBF]

21. Your opinion - I think pattern can be shown in the legal sense.

But you are determined to let this guy off. Wonder what your angle is?

Even if he gets off legally he's still morally on shaky ground.

After reading your nonsense I'm reconsidering whether these cretins should even be allowed to play football again.

[uppityperson]

23. "get the jury to look past the pictures"? What? He said he hit his kid with a stick, pictures

how damage he did. So they will get past the pictures to prove....what? He really didn't mean to hit his child or damage him? It was all an accident? Kid did it on a slide? He's reeeaaalllllly sorry? beating your kid hard enough to cause damage is not "abuse" but within parental rights of punishment?

What do you mean?

[rollin74]

3. good. Adrian Peterson was about to get some special treatment from the Vikings

because of his star player status

The Vikings have suspended or cut 4 different players in recent years because of criminal accusations before the legal process had played out, before any of them had been tried or convicted

...In 2011, when Spielman was vice president of player personnel, the Vikings under team owner Zygi Wilf suspended Cook after the cornerback was charged with felony domestic assault. Cook was reinstated a few weeks later but was told to stay away from the team until the legal process played out. Cook missed 10 games that season. He was later acquitted of all charges.


As Spielman gained influence and rank, the Vikings’ willingness to part ways with offenders before the completion of due process became a de facto policy. The team cut Caleb King in 2012 after an arrest for assault; in 2013 it released A.J. Jefferson hours after his arrest for alleged domestic violence; and this winter Minnesota cut linebacker Erin Henderson following a DUI arrest.

Cook, King, Jefferson and Henderson made it easy for the Vikings to cast them away. They weren’t stud performers, and they hadn’t won over the locker room; at least, not like Peterson.

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/09/16/adrian-peterson-minnesota-vikings-double-standard/

[rpannier]

4. But... But... But Spielman assured us at the Presser those were different

Oh yeah.
You did mention the difference

They weren’t stud performers

on edit: As I mentioned in an earlier post... Spielman's Press Conference didn't help the situation.
He was defensive and seemed to be delivering only canned responses
For someone in his position and with the money the team has, you'd have thought he'd have been better prepared

[NealK]

5. Good.

[Rhinodawg]

7. Hate to disagree...but..

He admitted he was wrong.
He confessed publically.
He carried that from his own childhood.
He is getting professional help.

Is there no such thing as contrition and forgiveness ?

Everyone who isn't worthy of forgiveness, please step forward.








on edit....since I have a different view point go ahead and hit the alert button

here --

[4dsc]

8. So what

You think he should be treated differently because he pays lip service to this abuse? This man has some serious problems that needs some special attention.

[TBF]

11. I've heard no contrition from Peterson -

all public statements to date have indicated that he would continue to beat the crap out of those kids.

My view is that he should be kept away from them until he learns better parenting skills.

Football is secondary, but I don't really have a problem with him returning to his job (if he in fact is convicted of child abuse - which is a crime even here in TX - I don't think his livelihood should be taken away. I felt the same about Michael Vick. I was ok with him returning to football but hoped they would keep him away from animals. Just my opinion.

[LynneSin]

12. Michael Vick's dog-fighting was something he carried from his own childhood

it was part of his culture that he continued doing in his adulthood. And Vick did plea guilty to the charges.

I seem to recall all of DU ready to toss Vick into the gates of hell and leave him there to rot forever.

I'm sorry just because it was part of someone's culture or childhood doesn't make it right.

And you are right - Peterson deserve forgiveness but I also think that he should be held accountable for his crimes. What he did to those children was horrible. He didn't just spank them with an open hand. He used a switched and attacked them until they bled - that is not a form of discipline for children that is abuse. And we only saw one instance - how many others were there?

Let the law investigate the crime, let a jury decide the fate and let Peterson serve the sentence. And like Vick when the time is done and sentence served (if there is one) I would have no problem allowing Peterson back into the NFL if Peterson has shown that he has remorse for what he has done and wants to not only move forward away from what he has done but reach out to others to help prevent others from doing the same thing.

Unfortunately for the case of Ray Rice the evidence was buried so he got away scot free on his crime since he's already been charged and cannot be charged again.

[Tommymac]

17. You missed post 3#??? The Vikings have historically suspended abusers...

And what about Ben Roethlisberger of the Steelers?

6 Game suspension (2 droped for good berhavior)by His Righteousness Goodell and charges were not even pressed in an alleged rape case...


No Peterson needs to sit on the pine until. Because he ADMITTED he beat 4 YEAR OLD. This is a moral, not a legal issue.

[Rhinodawg]

22. You say its a moral issue....

the post before says its a LEGAL issue.

I am not defending his actions...I deplore his actions.

what I am saying we ALL MAKE MISTAKES.
His is bad..no question.

but we all need to allow people to fix what they did wrong.

And he admitted to it. hes getting help.

Let he is without sin, cast the first stone.

[Tommymac]

27. This is about sending a message - abuse WILL NOT BE Tolerated.

He has done this before - it is not his first offense. Abusers statistically do not change their behavior very often.

The NFL has done the right thing in this case. Mr. Petersen should have thought before he brutally beat a 4 YEAR OLD.

[santroy79]

50. no he gets no forgiveness

and I hope he goes to prison and gets his ass beat by other prisoners.

[libdem4life]

53. Like Jimmy Swaggart and all those weeping apologies...not just "sorry" but "sorry I

got caught." The Far Right knows about that. Hallelujah, I've been forgiven because Christ died for these-here sins. Well, that ought to do it, right? OK, life goes back to normal now.

This crap about "contrition and forgiveness" right...happened as soon as he lost his job.

The toddler had huge welts on his legs...I saw them on one of those out of the MSM stations. Stuffed leaves in his mouth? That one I hadn't heard.

Seven kids with seven girlfriends...dude's got some major relationship/family issues.

I can't believe the apologists on this board for child abuse and rape.

A murderer or pedophile can be forgiven too, They may be "made whole by confessing their sins", but their victims sure as hell aren't. If alive, they are maimed for life.

[AngryAmish]

9. I think people are catching on that in order to play football you must like violence

And violent people suck to be around.

[rpannier]

16. Steve Young

Terry Bradshaw, Kenny Stabler, Jamaal Charles, Michael Sam, Troy Aikman, Joe Greene, Jim Zorn, Steve Largent.. etc

All nice people and from everything I've read are a lot of fun to be around
Most professional athletes, even those in violent sports, are really nice people and are fun to be around

[Omaha Steve]

13. Sorry for my dupe

Just woke up and misread this headline.

K&R!

[CanonRay]

20. Once again, money talks

Radisson Hotels pulled out as a Vikings sponsor. All these teams give a shit about is the bottom line, everything else is lip service. I say that as an ardent football fan.

[skeewee08]

24. I don't need/want any one telling me & my hubby how to raise our two teenage sons

I am not justifying what Adrian did but let this play out in the courts. Dang there would be a lot of parents, grandparents and great-grandparents in jail or arrested. I know a lot of people raised in the 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's that were disciplined with a switch myself included. I had to go and pick my own switch when I was 6/7 for talking back and lying to my mother. If you have ever been hit with a switch you know it will leave whelps. That's what wrong with todays children talking back, kicking and yelling at their parents being disrespectful, sending kids to their rooms doe not work sending them to a corner does not work. I am not condoning child abuse but I am saying there is nothing wrong with discipline your kid/s.

[Tommymac]

28. Hitting a 4 year old child with a stick is ABUSE, It is not discipline.

If I see you hitting Your child with a stick, I will call the police. Just sayin'

[skeewee08]

30. And like I said you or anyone else will not tell me how to raise my children

Just sayin'. Where did I say that this was abuse? That is what's wrong with todays children spitting and hitting at there parents talking back Just sayin'.

[Tommymac]

46. Hit a child, do not pass Go - Go directly to jail.

Not telling you what to do.

Just sayin' if I see an adult hit a child the authorities WILL be called immediately.

My conscious is clear.

BTW, I think today's generation of children is just fine. Overall they are polite, innovative, bright and they are growing up to be fine progressives overall, with a deep desire to preserve the environment.

And society is not in decline. And the US of A is just fine. And getting better - legalizing weed, allowing gays to get married, having a great debate on the out of control police forces, extending healthcare to millions through the AHCA, electing a minority President not once but twice, and possibly electing a woman prez in 2 years; continuing to make non fossil fuel power generation more and more affordable; holding the energy companies feet to the fire as much as we can, 99% of us are starting to feel our power and the 1% is running scared; shining the light on oppression in the middle east and Africa and Eastern Europ...

Yeah, I believe they are going to be fine. No abuse needed.

Have a great day.

[treestar]

52. the law places limits on what you can do

and therefore, "tells you" how to raise your children. If you believe you are above the law, you are not and if caught, can get arrested.

If teachers see any welts they will report you to Child Protective Services.

[wordpix]

54. actually, child abuse is a legal issue & courts WILL take abused children away

from parents.

Your idea of abuse may be different from mine - however, it appears the 4 y.o. was abused. Period. This was not discipline. It was abuse.

I never hit/slapped/switched etc. my child and he is now happily married, college educated, works full time, is starting graduate school, knows right from wrong and told me that if I ever need to, I can move in with him...the point is, you don't need to hit kids to discipline them. It's counterproductive. Talking, explaining, spending lots of time with children and some time outs here and there work well.

[SunSeeker]

32. No one is telling you how to raise them. They're just saying you can't abuse them.

Ripping the skin off the thighs, buttocks and genitals of a 4 year old with a stick is abuse, not discipline.

My parents used to beat me too, just like yours did you. My mom also smoked like a chimney. They were far from perfect people. Plus they did not have the benefit of studies that have been out for decades now proving those things are harmful. I do, so I don't smoke nor spank--let alone injure--my kid.

I am sure you have the good sense to know right from wrong. That is why you are a progressive. Certainly follow the good lessons that your parents taught you. In my case, it was the Golden Rule: treating others as you would want to be treated.

There are many effective forms of displine that are not physical. When my son starts to talk back, I just threaten to take away his iPhone. Works like a charm.

And since my husband and I both have made it clear that physically hurting someone is absolutely unacceptable, we have never had a problem with him doing that to others. He is a very strong, athletic kid, but he has never gotten in trouble in school for fighting and as far as I know, has never even thrown a punch.

[skeewee08]

35. I get that

but what works for you and your family may not work for the next family. I agree things have changed from the time you and I were raised. My parents were military so they were very strict but they weren't abuser. My mom did the disciplining. Our boys were never hit with a switch but my hubby has gotten the belt to them when they were younger. They are both now 15/17 play high school football, track and swimming and they want to start playing lacrosse. They say Yes Ma'am and No Sir to us and there elders. The last time my hubby disciplined our boys were when my oldest was 13.

[Blue_Tires]

47. A further examination of the case hints pretty strongly at

Peterson not "disciplining" his sons (because the age of four by all accounts is too young to properly process good/bad behavior and reward/punishment), as opposed to giving them frequent whippings to "harden them up", or some other twisted rite of passage...

[cali]

34. I'm sorry, but what you just posted is just... wrong. and on so many levels

you surely are condoning child abuse- and supporting it. furthermore the result of decades of research is decisive. Hitting doesn't work. It is very damaging. It creates nasty bullies and sick people like Adrian Peterson. There is less youth violence now than in decades.

I know lots of young people including my son who were never struck and they are not the young people you evidently know.

Ugh to every word of your paean to abuse.

[skeewee08]

36. Nope

were did I say I condone child abuse? I do support disciplining kids but I never said I condone child abuse.

[skeewee08]

38. Hugh????

There are a lot of people that were hit when they were a child and turned out all right myself included. Once again I never said I condone child abuse. I do support disciplining but I never said abuse. There are a lot of parents that discipline there children but they have self control. Just because you know people that were not struck does not mean I don't. I don't know where you live but there is youth violence all over the TV an internet and it's people like you that say where are the parent?

[cali]

40. as I said, the research conducted on spanking/hitting as a form of discipline is

extensive and points to how damaging it is.

Yes, it's all over TV and the internet. that doesn't mean that it's worse than it was 30 years ago. It is not. CDC and John Jay studies document that.

I live in Vermont.

[skeewee08]

43. Well we can see how not disciplining kids has worked..

Like I said I can find studies that show disciplining is not damaging.

"The study discovered that children who remember being spanked on the backside with an open hand do better in school, perform more volunteer work and are more optimistic than others who were not physically disciplined. "This in no way should be thought of as a green light for spanking," said Gunnoe.


http://www.emaxhealth.com/1357/5/35034/does-spanking-children-make-them-better-adults.html

[apnu]

25. So much fail in this. CNN, Vikings, Peterson, NFL... my god.

CNN has a misleading headline suggesting the Vikings benched Peterson when in paragraph #3 it was Peterson who did the benching according to the NFLPA.

Then he's still getting paid for this leave of absence. This is a PR move by the Vikings. They've been kicked in the only teeth they know, their wallet when Radison bailed on them and they need to look like they're doing something other than covering their ass and providing cover for a child beater.

Then theres' the NFL who's done next to nothing in all this. They did next to nothing with the Incognito scandal last year, or the homophobia scandal. Now they've got one child beater, and two wife beaters all exploding at the same time and they continue to dither.

Its so rank that even Budweiser has had enough. That speaks volumes.

All of this exposes the great lie in pro-sports. Honor, integrity, athleticism, healthy competition -- none of that exists in organized professional sports.

[SunSeeker]

29. Good. This was abuse, not discipline.

Peterson must understand and admit that, which he has yet to do. Getting benched should give him an attitude adjustment and serve as a warning to the rest of the NFL players.

[skeewee08]

31. Why just the NFL players?

If it's abuse it should be a warning to everyone. Oh and from I read he did apologize for what he did. Maybe you should google his statement. He apologized for the hurt that he had brought to his child.

[SunSeeker]

33. I agree. It should and will set an example for everyone.

He did not apologize for beating his 4 year old with a stick. He just lamented the wounds he left. But as you point out up the thread, any time you use a switch it leaves "whelps." That is why using a switch is abuse. Peterson does not get the difference between abuse and discipline.

[skeewee08]

37. You must a read somehting diffrent

" I want everyone to understand how sorry I feel about the hurt that I have brought to my child".

[SunSeeker]

39. He does not say he was sorry for using a switch. He denies that what he did was abuse.

"I am not a perfect son. I am not a perfect husband. I am not a perfect parent, but I am, without a doubt, not a child abuser. I am someone that disciplined his child and did not intend to cause him any injury. No one can understand the hurt that I feel for my son and for the harm I caused him. My goal is always to teach my son right from wrong and that's what I tried to do that day."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11532548/adrian-peterson-minnesota-vikings-apologizes-says-not-child-abuser

He is only sorry for the consequences, not the act.

[skeewee08]

41. So you want him to apologize for using a switch?

"I have to live with the fact that when I disciplined my son the way that I was disciplined as a child, I caused an injury that I never intended or thought would happen. I know that many people disagree with the way I disciplined my child. I also understand after meeting with psychologist there are other alternatives ways of disciplining a child that may be more appropriate."

https://twitter.com/AdrianPeterson/status/511586600346599424/photo/1

[SunSeeker]

42. When he stops using weasel words, it will be an apology.

He still thinks beating a kid with a stick is "discipline" not abuse. The best he can offer is that he "understands" that there are "alternative ways of disciplining a child that may be more appropriate."

What that says is switches/corporal punishment of children is still the main form of child "discipline" in his mind; anything else is an "alternative" that may or may not be more appropriate.

Hitting a kid with a stick is NEVER appropriate. It is ALWAYS abuse, not discipline. Until Peterson acknowledges this, he has not apologized for what he did.

[skeewee08]

44. In the state of Texas corporal punishemnt is legal.

"Hitting a kid with a stick is NEVER appropriate. It is ALWAYS abuse, not discipline" I disagree like I said I was hit with a switch as well as my friends. To me there's a difference between hitting and whooping. If that's the case hitting a kid with an open hand, belt, spoon or shoe shouldn't be either.

[SunSeeker]

45. Texas indicted Peterson, so apparently this type of corporal punishment is not legal there.

We're told the child returned home to his mother in Minn. who noticed injuries and took the child to a doctor. A short time later, the doctor contacted authorities in Texas to report Adrian.

Child Protective Services confirms it is working on a case involving Peterson. Multiple sources tell us the alleged victim is a 4-year-old boy.

Peterson was indicted in Montgomery County for reckless or negligent injury to a child, this according to MyFOX Houston 26.



Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/#ixzz3DbeDzzqu
http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/

[former9thward]

48. Peterson will receive his full salary ($11.75 Million)

Peterson will receive his full salary ($11.75 million) for the 2014 season after being placed on the exempt list.

"Adrian Peterson made a decision to take a voluntary leave with pay to take care of his personal and legal issues," the NFL players' union said in a statement. "The NFLPA and NFL worked with Adrian and the Minnesota Vikings to resolve this unique situation. We support this decision and hope the best for him and his family."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/minnesota-vikings-place-adrian-peterson-nfl-exempt-list-article-1.1942467

[wordpix]

55. omg, these players make so much money it's absurd

while teachers, firefighters and social workers are struggling to make ends meet

[former9thward]

56. Yes, players, actors, entertainers, CEOs

all make absurd salaries compared to average Americans.