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TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:06 PM Sep 2014

How gender mattered in the rise and fall of Debbie Wasserman Schultz

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by cbayer (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Washington Post

Devastating.

That's really the only way to describe Politico's piece on DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

(I hereby nominate her for Worst Week in Washington.) (Editor's note: Three words -- Joseph. Robinette. Biden.)

Based on interviews with DNC staffers -- both former and current -- the piece described Wasserman Schultz as something of a modern-day Tracy Flick: over-eager, disloyal and not shy about promoting her ambitions. It would be fair to say that she sounds like, well, a lot like other politicians. And this would be accurate. But the wholesale bashing of Wasserman Schultz at every level of the party -- White House, Congress, donors, aides in her own shop -- is especially rough, even given the reality of Beltway politics.
She comes across as a woman without a party, holding a job that could be a stepping stone, but now seems more like a trap door. (As Philip Bump notes, it might be a stepping stone no matter how it ends.) This is a public firing, Washington-style.

“We say the big ‘D’ is for Democratic,” one member joked to others at the House Democratic retreat on the Eastern Shore of Maryland in February, according to one of the members. “For her, the big ‘D’ is always for Debbie.”

Instead, the DNC chairwoman stakes out the president of the United States at the end of photo lines at events and fundraisers. “You need another picture, Debbie?” Obama tends to say, according to people who’ve been there for the encounters.

Here's the reality: No matter the outcome for Democrats in November, Wasserman Schultz will likely be shown the door, with another woman to replace her. But, the list of possible replacements is a not-so-long list of two: Stephanie Schriock, who heads the Democratic women's group EMILY's List, and Stephanie Rawlings Blake, the mayor of Baltimore.

more at link:

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/09/18/how-gender-mattered-in-the-rise-and-fall-of-debbie-wasserman-schultz/?wpisrc=nl-fix&wpmm=1



Florida democrats have been crying out. They were told to shut up. Yet they continue to say, how Florida goes, so goes the country. Her inside history out of Fla, is a sad history. This is the true reason activists won't act anymore. Donors won't open wallets like they used to. African Americans stay home. Research back to 2006, while she was a Florida leader.
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How gender mattered in the rise and fall of Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Original Post) TheNutcracker Sep 2014 OP
When she endorsed Republicans over Democrats hobbit709 Sep 2014 #1
I'm so glad you know her history. I'm not bashing, but we keep losing and DU wonders why TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #3
She lost me 'cuz 840high Sep 2014 #11
Where was Debby when the only person running for GOV, was not allowed to speak!!! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #2
PS...and a W O M A N to boot who was the only one running at the time! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #4
I missed that story. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2014 #5
Here are a couple.... TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #17
Hit piece alert! rocktivity Sep 2014 #6
Absolutely consider its source. Politico was founded by a bunch of reaganites, and they profess still_one Sep 2014 #8
Yep. eom Cleita Sep 2014 #12
This doesn't fit the criteria for LBN BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #7
Also, anything whose source is Politico, should be questioned still_one Sep 2014 #9
Exactly. A RW-created organization. nt BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #10
He won because AA came out to vote. Alex Sink lost because they stayed home. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #13
"They" stayed home BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #16
Agreed, TexasTowelie Sep 2014 #14
Guess you're right. They'll remove her because she's been good for Fla. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #15
You do know that DNC Chairs are not permanent positions, right. BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #18
Yes but her shenanigans hurt Florida even before she became Chair. Dems in fla were outraged TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #19
So you blame all the ills of FL BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #22
The real hit piece would be the 2013 local elections where FDP chair followed Debby's misleads! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #20
I have never liked her. She always seemed like a republican infiltrator, loudsue Sep 2014 #21
This is an analysis/opinion piece and not LBN. cbayer Sep 2014 #23

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
1. When she endorsed Republicans over Democrats
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:11 PM
Sep 2014

And wouldn't support those same Democrats at the national party level, she lost me completely. she's a DINO and an opportunist.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
3. I'm so glad you know her history. I'm not bashing, but we keep losing and DU wonders why
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:13 PM
Sep 2014
 

840high

(17,196 posts)
11. She lost me 'cuz
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:45 PM
Sep 2014

she's not loyal.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
2. Where was Debby when the only person running for GOV, was not allowed to speak!!!
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:12 PM
Sep 2014

at the statewide democratic event and FUNDRAISER???? THIS time around.

The after effects of that are still in play.

And, Senator Bill Nelson carries much of this blame as well.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
4. PS...and a W O M A N to boot who was the only one running at the time!
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:15 PM
Sep 2014

NO REASON FOR THIS SHIT!

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
5. I missed that story.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:31 PM
Sep 2014

Can you give more detail?

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
17. Here are a couple....
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:21 PM
Sep 2014
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/06/16/richs-snub-worked-in-her-favor/

and....
a write up by Nan Rich herself on her Facebook page....

https://fr-fr.facebook.com/NanRich2014/posts/640535625974913?fref=nf



THIS WAS UNCALLED FOR. And now...more are staying home.

Yes..under DWS Barak won 08 and 12. But African American's came out for him.

In the last midterms...for Alex, they stayed home.

In our special election to replace Bill Young, we dems had a candidate in Jessica Erlich who raised over 100K before Sink decided to run. Great more the merrier! But NOOOOOOOO...

The party trashed another female, an attorney, who will never run again. Alex Sink got Emily's List to RETRACK their endorsement of Jessica. Now come on.....Why not endorse both? Two great females. So...women are pissed in fla. Then they did this to Nan Rich for governor for Charlie who just became a democrat and continues to suffer hits on past republican policies, and getting a new message out. Not enough money to combat one, and message the other. Get it?

All of this going on since 2006, back when Little Debby endorsed a republican over a democrat who was a progressive, who WON A HARD FOUGHT PRIMARY.

Some on DU want to call this a "hit piece" because Political and WaPo put it out. But it's the truth. Florida dems HAVE been calling for her removal.
Debby Wasserman did not get Barak Obama elected. The African American's in S. Fla who usually stay home, came out to vote for him. That is what the numbers show. They don't lie.

Thanks for asking for more info. There is so much here...

rocktivity

(45,006 posts)
6. Hit piece alert!
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:34 PM
Sep 2014

She's not without her faults, but consider the source. And the premise -- a man would have acted differently? And the timing -- just before the midterm elections.


rocktivity

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
8. Absolutely consider its source. Politico was founded by a bunch of reaganites, and they profess
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:38 PM
Sep 2014

unbias, but since their inception their stories are always slanted against Democrats. Washington Post also isn't what it was, so as far as I am concerned you are right on


Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. Yep. eom
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:58 PM
Sep 2014

BumRushDaShow

(168,439 posts)
7. This doesn't fit the criteria for LBN
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:36 PM
Sep 2014

It sounds like opinion/analysis. And the author Nia-Malika Henderson is an analyst who regularly appears on MSNBC.

But you knew that, right?

Seems between this and the Heritage Foundation drivel you posted earlier, one wonders.

Florida democrats have been crying out. They were told to shut up. Yet they continue to say, how Florida goes, so goes the country. Her inside history out of Fla, is a sad history. This is the true reason activists won't act anymore. Donors won't open wallets like they used to. African Americans stay home. Research back to 2006, while she was a Florida leader.


This is why Barack Obama lost Florida in 2008 & 2012!!
 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
9. Also, anything whose source is Politico, should be questioned
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:39 PM
Sep 2014

BumRushDaShow

(168,439 posts)
10. Exactly. A RW-created organization. nt
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:42 PM
Sep 2014
 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
13. He won because AA came out to vote. Alex Sink lost because they stayed home.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:08 PM
Sep 2014

Is the only focus here on prez races? all complaints come from what are congress does and does not do.

BumRushDaShow

(168,439 posts)
16. "They" stayed home
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:21 PM
Sep 2014

in 2010 and most other non-Presidential elections. It's a civics problem in this country that has nothing to do with D. W-S. The turnout issue along with the Voter ID fiasco, both in FL and here in PA, was part of why here in PA, we got teabaggers Toomey and Corbutt. But with that latter issue, the AA vote was also not actively courted and few here in SE PA knew who the W PA candidate (Onorato) was.

TexasTowelie

(126,794 posts)
14. Agreed,
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:10 PM
Sep 2014

I wonder what is taking so long for the admins to lock the thread?

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
15. Guess you're right. They'll remove her because she's been good for Fla.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:12 PM
Sep 2014

BumRushDaShow

(168,439 posts)
18. You do know that DNC Chairs are not permanent positions, right.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:23 PM
Sep 2014
 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
19. Yes but her shenanigans hurt Florida even before she became Chair. Dems in fla were outraged
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:30 PM
Sep 2014

when this happened.

BumRushDaShow

(168,439 posts)
22. So you blame all the ills of FL
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:41 PM
Sep 2014

on 1 out of 27 (from 2008 and before) reps to Congress?

Wow. Just wow.

Seems your bubble world was burst in 2008 & 2012.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
20. The real hit piece would be the 2013 local elections where FDP chair followed Debby's misleads!
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:32 PM
Sep 2014

That would be a real bummer for you all to read! Another female attorney, and former council member DISSED!

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
21. I have never liked her. She always seemed like a republican infiltrator,
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:37 PM
Sep 2014

and I couldn't understand how she became so "important" in the party, except for her "new way" cheering squad.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
23. This is an analysis/opinion piece and not LBN.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 02:01 PM
Sep 2014

Please consider reposting in GD or Good Reads or Politics.

Thanks.

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