Scotland Decides - Results as they come in

[pkdu]

Last edited Fri Sep 19, 2014, 03:51 AM - Edit history (26)

Source: BBC

Clackmannanshire Counts in..

Should Scotland be an independent country?
Votes %
NO 19,036 53.80
YES 16,350 46.20
TARGET TO WIN - N/A
After 1 of 32 counts
Turnout
88.59%
Rejected ballots
25



Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

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Orkney In. BIG NO!

Orkney Islands votes NO
Votes %
NO 10,004 67.20%
YES 4,883 32.80%
Electorate
17,806
Turnout
83.72%
Rejected ballots
20

Shetland In : BIG NO
Shetland Islands votes NO
Votes %
NO 9,951 63.71%
YES 5,669 36.29%
Electorate
18,516
Turnout
84.44%
Rejected ballots
15

Comhairle nan Eilean Siar In
Comhairle nan Eilean Siar votes NO
Votes %
NO 10,544 53.42%
YES 9,195 46.58%
Electorate
22,908
Turnout
86.25%
Rejected ballots
19


Inverclyde votes NO ( by just 86 votes!)
Votes %
NO 27,329 50.08%
YES 27,243 49.92%
Electorate
62,481
Turnout
87.39%
Rejected ballots
29

Dundee City votes YES
Votes %
YES 53,620 57.35%
NO 39,880 42.65%
Electorate
118,729
Turnout
78.80%
Rejected ballots
58

Renfrewshire votes NO
Votes %
NO 62,067 52.81%
YES 55,466 47.19%
Electorate
134,735
Turnout
87.29%
Rejected ballots
79

East Lothian votes NO
Votes %
NO 44,283 61.72%
YES 27,467 38.28%
Electorate
81,945
Turnout
87.62%
Rejected ballots
48

Midlothian votes NO
Votes %
NO 33,972 56.30%
YES 26,370 43.70%
Electorate
69,617
Turnout
86.75%
Rejected ballots
53

Stirling votes NO
Votes %
NO 37,153 59.77%
YES 25,010 40.23%
Electorate
69,033
Turnout
90.14%
Rejected ballots
62

West Dunbartonshire votes YES
Votes %
YES 33,720 53.96%
NO 28,776 46.04%
Electorate
71,109
Turnout
87.94%
Rejected ballots
36

Falkirk votes NO
Votes %
NO 58,030 53.47%
YES 50,489 46.53%
Electorate
122,457
Turnout
88.71%
Rejected ballots
107

Angus votes NO
Votes %
NO 45,192 56.32%
YES 35,044 43.68%
Electorate
93,551
Turnout
85.84%
Rejected ballots
64

Dumfries & Galloway votes NO
Votes %
NO 70,039 65.67%
YES 36,614 34.33%
Electorate
122,036
Turnout
87.49%
Rejected ballots
122

East Renfrewshire votes NO
Votes %
NO 41,690 63.19%
YES 24,287 36.81%
Electorate
72,981
Turnout
90.46%
Rejected ballots
44

Aberdeen City votes NO
Votes %
NO 84,094 58.61%
YES 59,390 41.39%
Electorate
175,745
Turnout
81.75%
Rejected ballots
180

East Dunbartonshire votes NO
Votes %
NO 48,314 61.20%
YES 30,624 38.80%
Electorate
86,836
Turnout
90.99%
Rejected ballots
73

North Lanarkshire votes YES
Votes %
YES 115,783 51.07%
NO 110,922 48.93%
Electorate
268,704
Turnout
84.44%
Rejected ballots
178

South Lanarkshire votes NO
Votes %
NO 121,800 54.67%
YES 100,990 45.33%
Electorate
261,157
Turnout
85.36%
Rejected ballots
137

Perth & Kinross votes NO
Votes %
NO 62,714 60.19%
YES 41,475 39.81%
Electorate
120,015
Turnout
86.89%
Rejected ballots
96

Glasgow votes YES
Votes %
YES 194,779 53.49%
NO 169,347 46.51%
Electorate
486,219
Turnout
75.00%
Rejected ballots
538

Scottish Borders votes NO
Votes %
NO 55,553 66.56%
YES 27,906 33.44%
Electorate
95,533
Turnout
87.43%
Rejected ballots
67

West Lothian votes NO
Votes %
NO 65,682 55.18%
YES 53,342 44.82%
Electorate
138,226
Turnout
86.17%
Rejected ballots
91

North Ayrshire votes NO
Votes %
NO 49,016 51.01%
YES 47,072 48.99%
Electorate
113,923
Turnout
84.42%
Rejected ballots
85

NO needs 470,274 votes to win
Should Scotland be an independent country?
Votes %
NO 1,352,635 54.33
YES 1,137,190 45.67
TARGET TO WIN 1,822,909 N/A
After 25 of 32 counts


South Ayrshire votes NO
Votes %
NO 47,247 57.87%
YES 34,402 42.13%
Electorate
94,881
Turnout
86.12%
Rejected ballots
67

East Ayrshire votes NO
Votes %
NO 44,442 52.78%
YES 39,762 47.22%
Electorate
99,664
Turnout
84.55%
Rejected ballots
58

Uh-Oh - number of completed counts went back from 26 to 24 on BBC ...someone boo-boo-ed , the details show 26
Should Scotland be an independent country?
Votes %
NO 1,305,388 54.21
YES 1,102,788 45.79
TARGET TO WIN 1,822,942 N/A
After 24 of 32 counts
Turnout
84.16%
Rejected ballots
2,262


Order restored , someone realised 32-6 = 26 not 24
Should Scotland be an independent country?
Votes %
NO 1,397,077 54.30
YES 1,176,952 45.70
TARGET TO WIN 1,822,880 N/A
After 26 of 32 counts

Aberdeenshire votes NO
Votes %
NO 108,606 60.36%
YES 71,337 39.64%
Electorate
206,486
Turnout
87.19%
Rejected ballots
102

Argyll & Bute votes NO
Votes %
NO 37,143 58.52%
YES 26,324 41.48%
Electorate
72,002
Turnout
88.21%
Rejected ballots
49

Edinburgh votes NO
Votes %
NO 194,638 61.10%
YES 123,927 38.90%
Electorate
378,012
Turnout
84.40%
Rejected ballots
460

Fife votes NO
Votes %
NO 139,788 55.05%
YES 114,148 44.95%
Electorate
302,165
Turnout
84.11%
Rejected ballots
226

Argyll & Bute votes NO
Votes %
NO 37,143 58.52%
YES 26,324 41.48%
Electorate
72,002
Turnout
88.21%
Rejected ballots
49

Only Highland Left -- its all over


And here it is......


Highland votes NO
Votes %
NO 87,739 52.92%
YES 78,069 47.08%
Electorate
190,778
Turnout
87.00%
Rejected ballots
168


FINAL TALLIES

SCOTLAND VOTES NO
Scotland has voted against becoming an independent country by 55% to 45%.

Should Scotland be an independent country?
Votes %
NO 2,001,926 55.30
YES 1,617,989 44.70
TARGET TO WIN 1,809,958 N/A
After 32 of 32 counts
Electorate
4,283,392
Turnout
84.59%
Rejected ballots
3,429

[George II]

1. Not the wrong forum, but with only 35,000 of close to 4 million expected votes, maybe....

....a little premature?

[pkdu]

2. Not at all

I'm expecting Clackmannanshire to secede if the overall vote goes against them!

[Raster]

4. Hopefully this will be a continuous thread, updated throughout the evening....

...hence: "as they come in"

[pkdu]

6. I will attempt to...estimated posting times below ( UK time , Friday am)

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Declaration times by council area
Comhairle nan Eilean Siar - 02:00 (There were concerns this may be delayed as fog was causing problems at Stornoway airport earlier but ballot boxes from Uist and Barra were able to take off)
North Lanarkshire - 02:00
Inverclyde - 02:00
Orkney - 02:00
East Lothian - 02:00
Perth & Kinross- 02:00
Moray - 02:00
Clackmannanshire - 02:30
West Dunbartonshire - 03:00
Dumfries & Galloway - 03:00
Angus - 03:00
South Lanarkshire - 03:00
East Renfrewshire - 03:00
Dundee - 03:00
Falkirk - 03:00
Renfrewshire - 03:00
East Ayrshire - 03:00
Aberdeenshire - 03:00
Stirling - 03:00
Midlothian - 03:30
Argyll & Bute - 03:30
West Lothian - 03:30
South Ayrshire - 03:30
Shetland - 03:30
East Dunbartonshire - 03:30
Fife - 04:00
Highland - 04:00
North Ayrshire - 04:30
Scottish Borders - 05:00
Edinburgh - 05:00
Glasgow - 05:00
Aberdeen - 06:00

[aggiesal]

7. The problem is that with as sample size of 35K ...

percentages don't change that much, going forward.
I've seen this as an election count official.

Once the polls close, the early voting ballots are tallied,
and the percentage numbers only deviate less than a percentage point from the initial count,
for all remaining ballots.

I've seen it in multiple elections, and I'm still amazed and frustrating at times, that these
numbers just don't move that much any more.

I believe the Scots voted against seceding from the UK.

[ballyhoo]

10. With that No percentage in what should

have been the other way around, I would say Scotland will not separate from England. England will work all day tomorrow reversing their plans to give the Scots more power. Another breath of air extinguished.

[pkdu]

14. MSNBC just interviewed Glasgow Herald reporte who literally "declared it over" ...based on that one

result and very high turnout in "No" regions and lower in "Yes" ones. ( based on previous polling)

[karynnj]

17. This is NOT a sample size problem - if it were a random sample of ALL the ballots cast

it would be a very decent size sample. However, it is not a sample at all, but the full count for a few places.

The best use of this would be if it were known that those places were more or less likely to vote no in the polling. Then they could at least balance it against what was expected in these places.
(ie if just Vermont was counted in the US on a national vote (yes I know there are none), would it be meaningful that the progressive liberal position was ahead?)

[aggiesal]

58. After 26 of 32 Councils declared

2.57 Million votes counted.
NO 1,397,077 54.28%
YES 1,176,952 45.72%

When only 35,000 votes counted
NO 19,036 53.80%
YES 16,350 46.20%

Delta change
NO -0.48%
YES +0.48

It always amazes me how little these percentage numbers change.

[aggiesal]

71. The final numbers are in.

Final count 3,619,915 votes counted
NO 2,001,926 55.30%
YES 1,617,989 44.70%

When only 35,000 votes counted
NO 19,036 53.80%
YES 16,350 46.20%

Delta change
NO +1.5%
YES -1.5%

So from the original numbers, it was more than the 1% threshold that I
had predicted, but not by much.

YES needed almost a 4% swing, which is nearly impossible to do unless
Diebold machines are used to count the ballot, then up to 6% swing is
in play until the vote is certified.

[herding cats]

3. Clackmannanshire is only 0.9% of the electorate.

That being said, it was also expected to vote yes. 31 more to go.

[pkdu]

8. Best tweet of the night so far re wee Clackmannanshire...

01:43
So it's a special congratulations to the 7 people in Clackmannanshire who voted both 'yes' and 'no'.

[herding cats]

12. Ha! Good one there.

It mirrors my feelings quite well.

[Ken Burch]

25. Any theories as to why Clackmannanshire might have switched from "Yes" to "No"? n/t.

[pkdu]

28. Turnout

Higher than predicted.

[Cooley Hurd]

5. Let me be the first (and lamest) to announce...

Nessie votes "meh... no photos please."

[freshwest]

9. Hehehe!

[lunasun]

11. +1 hee hee

[dipsydoodle]

13. Later alternative link with enhanced detail here :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-29130277

Some of the voter turnouts are significantly higher than I would ever have imagined.

Thanks for posting.

[rhett o rick]

15. k&r. Thanks for posting. nm

[Hissyspit]

16. @BloombergNews: LIVE RESULTS: Scotland independence vote: Yes 46.2% with 1 result out of 32 http://t

@BloombergNews: LIVE RESULTS: Scotland independence vote: Yes 46.2% with 1 result out of 32 http://t.co/RMkcrrWoW6/s/ergI #indyref

m.twitter.com/BloombergNews

[RandySF]

18. The cities will come in later and it will close fast.

But NO will win in the end.

[pkdu]

19. Yep , Glasgow and Edinburgh in 2-1/2 hours but could even be over before then

Pseudo Exit Poll just reported same 54(no)-46 (yes)

[nomorenomore08]

33. So they're voting until 5 A.M.? n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

20. Everyone else was hanging on what Clackmannanshire had to say.

[pkdu]

24. Indeed...and a little DU tidbit...DU Spellchecker doesn't like "Clackmannanshire" and suggest it

should be LANCASHIRE ( In England !) Holy Cow..that could start a war.

[nomorenomore08]

34. Ha!

[7962]

21. I think "NO" will win. I think they would like independence, but think its best to stay

Too much upheaval if they vote yes. they get a lot of social safety net from England which would go away. Taxes would have to go up, banking would leave for England, etc.

[Hissyspit]

22. @BloombergNews: LIVE RESULTS: Scotland independence vote: Yes 42.2% No 57.8% with 2 results out of

@BloombergNews: LIVE RESULTS: Scotland independence vote: Yes 42.2% No 57.8% with 2 results out of 32 http://t.co/wsFCB4TIcx/s/CiIz

m.twitter.com/BloombergNews

[Turbineguy]

23. If the Democratic Party here got a turnout like the Scots have

the GOP would roll up and blow away.

[Scootaloo]

26. If the Democrats would stop re-hashing ten year-old republican policy, maybe that would happen

[Spitfire of ATJ]

29. More like 30 year old Republican policy....

Remember, the next wave of 18-year-old voters were born during Clinton's SECOND term.

[Hissyspit]

27. @BloombergNews: LIVE RESULTS: Scotland independence vote: Yes 42.2% No 57.8% with 4 results out of 3

@BloombergNews: LIVE RESULTS: Scotland independence vote: Yes 42.2% No 57.8% with 4 results out of 32 http://t.co/iLOT6vatz2/s/0JR0 #indyref

[Hissyspit]

30. BloombergNews: LIVE RESULTS: Scotland independence vote: Yes 45.2% No 54.8% with 5 results out of 32

@BloombergNews: LIVE RESULTS: Scotland independence vote: Yes 45.2% No 54.8% with 5 results out of 32 http://t.co/iLOT6vatz2/s/DT_X #indyref

[oldandhappy]

31. However it turns out, London needs to pay attention.

This is way to close for assumption of 'victory' either way.

[Hissyspit]

32. @BreakingNews: RT @BreakingNewsUK: Dundee votes Yes in Scotland's independence referendum;

@BreakingNews: RT @BreakingNewsUK: Dundee votes Yes in Scotland's independence referendum; 57.3% Yes, 42.7% No, 78.8% turnout - @BBCBreaking http://t.co/UVcQmaYRr2/s/bW4C

[Seedersandleechers]

35. We now have a horse race

http://www.livenewschat.eu/sky/

[valerief]

36. 49.1% YES; 50.9% NO Bloomberg. Wow!

[Shivering Jemmy]

37. Hopefully no pulls farther ahead

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I want a resounding no.

[pkdu]

45. Me too...I was raised in Scotland...Mum is stil there ..but cant vote (Im no longer property owner)

[Algernon Moncrieff]

38. 9 /32 No 241559 Yes 232516

http://www.bbc.com/news/

[Algernon Moncrieff]

39. 10/32 No 285,842 Yes 259,983

http://www.bbc.com/news/

[Algernon Moncrieff]

40. 11/32 No 322,995 Yes 284,993

http://www.bbc.com/news/

Details http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

[Algernon Moncrieff]

41. 12/32 -- Big cities yet to be counted

NO
381,025 53.18

YES
335,482 46.82


http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

[Algernon Moncrieff]

42. 13/32

NO
426,217 53.49

YES
370,526 46.51

http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

eta BBC says South Lanarkshire (1st big district) to call soon

[Algernon Moncrieff]

43. 14/32

NO
496,256 54.93

YES
407,140 45.07

TARGET TO WIN
- N/A
http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

[Algernon Moncrieff]

44. 17/32 Over halfway there and No up 56-44

NO
670,354 56.25

YES
521,441 43.75


http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

[Algernon Moncrieff]

46. 1st big county (South Lanarkshire) in - 19/32 No 55 Yes 45

NO
903,076 55.02

YES
738,214 44.98

[Algernon Moncrieff]

47. 20/32 still No 55 Yes 45

NO
965,790 55.33

YES
779,689 44.67

http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

[Algernon Moncrieff]

48. No breaks 1 M votes

NO
1,031,472 55.32

YES
833,031 44.68

21/32

http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

[theHandpuppet]

50. Looks as if Scotland likes being England's bootscraper

Ah well. If they think this NO vote will give them any additional political leverage, I think they are sadly mistaken.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

51. I think no matter who wins, the relationship will change

Ultimately, I think both are stronger together -- like Canada and the PQ

[Algernon Moncrieff]

52. 24/32 54-46

NO
1,305,388 54.21

YES
1,102,788 45.79

[Shivering Jemmy]

57. They will come to regret not adopting your vision for their country

[Algernon Moncrieff]

49. No 54 Yes 46 - Yes breaks 1 M votes 23/26

NO
1,256,372 54.34

YES
1,055,716 45.66


http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

ETA -- Glasgow (biggest county) came in on the last count -- Yes won 53-47. Realistically, unless Edinburgh votes overwhelmingly "Yes", it looks like Scotland will remain part of the UK -- JMHO.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

53. BBC: NO needs 517,554 votes to win

NO
1,305,388 54.21

YES
1,102,788 45.79

TARGET TO WIN
1,822,942 N/A

http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

[Algernon Moncrieff]

54. 25/32 NO needs 470,274 votes to win

NO
1,352,635 54.33

YES
1,137,190 45.67

TARGET TO WIN
1,822,909 N/A

http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

[Algernon Moncrieff]

55. 26/32 NO needs 425,803 votes to win

NO
1,397,077 54.28

YES
1,176,952 45.72

TARGET TO WIN
1,822,880 N/A
http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

[Algernon Moncrieff]

56. The BBC has projected that Scotland votes NO

SCOTLAND VOTES NO


The BBC forecasts that Scotland has voted against becoming an independent country.

http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

[Corey_Baker08]

59. BBC forecasts a "No" victory. CNN has not called the result.

cnn.com

[pkdu]

60. CNN called it for Bush

[FrodosPet]

61. Damn those Diebold voting machines!

What? They were paper ballots? OK, so I wonder how much it cost the Koch brothers to bribe all those election officials?

Yes, I am a bit disappointed, but not surprised by the result. It was a clean and fair vote by people who have a lot more knowledge and skin in the game than I do. The land of my ancestors has shown itself proudly.

[pkdu]

62. yes , fairly contested and won ( I would have voted NO , but as an expat without an address

- not able to vote)

If you ever want help tracing your Scottish Roots , PM me , "its ma hobby"!

[freshwest]

63. An unexpected ending:

[pkdu]

64. Awesome..thanks! nt

[freshwest]

65. Right backatcha! You did great with the updates. So the 'nays' have it for now?

I really thought it was going to go the other way. And last report, it was very close. But I still don't get the monarchy thingie. Sigh.

[pkdu]

66. Its a generational thing I think

My Mum and StepDad ( in their 70s) in Aberdeen are very "NO" ( Salmond is viewed as an arse )

My sister and I are a bit torn , hearts say yes , but head says no

Her sons are both very pro-Yes

So...give it another 10-15 years.... its gonna have a better shot at it.

[Adrahil]

69. Interesting.... But...

I'm not sure having an independence referendum every 10-15 years is a good idea. It creates decisiveness and wastes resources. But a lot will depend on whether Westminster follows through on promised reforms.

[Nihil]

67. Wow. Only 4 out of the 32 regions went for "YES"?

Dundee City
West Dunbartonshire
North Lanarkshire
Glasgow

I honestly thought it would be closer than that.

[Adrahil]

68. Well, even with a Yes victory...

Their number of councils reporting for Yes would have been in the minority. Yes support tended to be concentrated in higher population areas.

But yeah, the polls seem to have underestimated the No vote significantly. My Scots friends said that a number of people they know who didn't say a word through the whole campaign were No voters in the end. Maybe they are the kind of people who would have refused to answer a poll? And these are proud Scots I'm talking about.... The kind of people who wear kilts frequently, so they definitely see themselves as Scots... But also as British.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

70. The underestimation might relate to the undecided vote

From interviews, I got the impression many were deciding at the last minute. I think human nature, in such instances, tends to be to stay with the status quo.