Pat Robertson loses it after Air Force nixes ‘God’ oath for atheists: ‘How can they fly?’

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Source: Raw Story

Pat Robertson loses it after Air Force nixes ‘God’ oath for atheists: ‘How can they fly?’
David Edwards
18 Sep 2014

TV preacher Pat Robertson lashed out at a “Jewish radical” on Thursday who he said was responsible for God being removed from the Air Force oath.

The Air Force announced on Thursday that the words “so help me God” were an optional part of the oath after an atheist airman crossed out the words on his reenlistment paperwork. Military officials had initially refused to accept the paperwork, but Department of Defense General Counsel eventually ruled that the words could be omitted.

Although the American Humanist Association had represented the airman, Robertson on Thursday blamed Military Religious Freedom Foundation President Mikey Weinstein for the movement against religion in the armed services.

“There’s a left-wing radical named Mikey Weinstein who has got a group about people against religion or whatever he calls it, and he has just terrorized the armed forces,” Robertson opined. “You think you’re supposed to be tough, you’re supposed to defend us, and you got one little Jewish radical who is scaring the pants off of you.”

“You want these guys flying the airplanes to defend us when you got one little guy terrorizing them?” he asked. “That’s what it amounts to.”


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[shenmue]

1. Pat does not know what anything is

[CarrieLynne]

2. same guy who says demons live in thrift store clothes right?

why tf does this kind of crazy even get any play? this guy represents people in this country...fuckin scary...seriously....
why not just go to an asylum and look for our new god there...im sure theres several to choose from lol

[bvf]

81. ...and attributed the Kobe earthquake in Japan to

heathenism some years ago.

Scary for sure, and depressing as hell.

[olddad56]

3. Pat needs to be concerned with his relationship with the God of his understanding,

and let others worry about theirs. It is called freedom of religion and for some that means freedom from religion.

[Plucketeer]

53. One has to keep foremost

that Robertson and his followers (and other TRUE +tians as well) have a primary mission from God. That mission is to be witnessing every time they open their mouths to speak. If they ARE NOT actively trying to enlist new souls, they're, in essence, straying - losing sight of the prime directive. It's that same mission that's behind pro life movements. It's not that there aren't already too many unwanted and abused kids - it's simply the redeemed soul potential those newborns afford folks as admission tickets to the supposed Kingdom.

[olddad56]

92. "disullsioned saviors wanting just to show someone the way"

[christx30]

4. See, pat,

Last edited Sat Sep 20, 2014, 04:46 PM - Edit history (1)

The top of the wing is curved, speeding up the flow of air as it goes over the top. This difference in speed causes lift. This pulls the plane off the ground. God is involved nearly on an advisory basis. Hope this helps.

[FiveGoodMen]

51. The air goes faster over the top and slower beneath

The faster-moving air exerts less downward pressure on the wing.

[hueymahl]

62. Almost right

The faster moving air caused by the curvature on top of the wing creates a negative pressure gradient causing lift.

[cloudbase]

64. There's that.

But every pilot will tell you that what really keeps an airplane in the air is money.

[Turbineguy]

72. That's right.

airplanes suck. That's how they stay aloft.

Pat Robertson sucks. That's how he grifts money from his moronic followers.

Now if you are flying because you're out there flapping your arms, that's God. But if not, it's science.

[hifiguy]

84. Yep. Simple physics.

[treestar]

89. lol

Gods works in mysterious ways, and atheists and other religions seem able to fly aircraft. Why doesn't God disallow them to lift off?

[Behind the Aegis]

5. At least he got to blame the Jews.

Like others, that is a win in his book.

[PeoViejo]

45. A convinient Segue

Baaa says the Goat.

[RKP5637]

56. He didn't blame LGBT for once, guess he forgot. n/t

[freshwest]

6. Well, Pat, it's like this. Science makes it happen. Sorry if that takes the magic out of it for you.

[NYC_SKP]

7. Heavier than air vehicles flying are either God or they are Magic.

It's also true for MAGNETS!!!

[hifiguy]

85. "Pieces of gravity?"

The whir you hear is Einstein spinning in his grave.

[Ken Burch]

8. Pat has an issue with a "Jewish radical"?

For Pat's sake, I hope THIS guy doesn't find out:

[Recursion]

18. I checked twice, thinking the article was satire

Because, yeah, that's just too perfect.

[Ken Burch]

19. Well, it's Raw Story, not The Onion.

I see what you mean, though.

[trusty elf]

9. You're not fooling anyone, Pat.

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[WinkyDink]

21. Agree 100%.

[LiberalElite]

22. !!!

[Trillo]

44. ⇑ That's it!

The god of force versus one of freedom.

[RKP5637]

57. K&R! n/t

[Thor_MN]

10. Dumbass thinks it's his airforce.

[awoke_in_2003]

75. No, the dumbass thinks

it's god's air force.

[ReRe]

11. Imagine...

... no religion.

[gerogie2]

12. Pat Robertson should know...

that Jesus discouraged the use of oaths.

Matthew 5:33 Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’ 34 But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. 37 But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.

[silvershadow]

13. He should know a lot of things. Probably does, and conveniently ignores the parts that do not fit

his agenda. He is a phony baloney.

[safeinOhio]

14. Thanks for pointing out

that loop-hole. There is always a couple if you look hard enough.

[blkmusclmachine]

34. The Bible thumpers don't know what's in their precious little book. That or they don't care. It's a

prop to feel "superior," and to rake in donation$$$ from the gullible/easily fooled.

[FiveGoodMen]

52. Exactly!

[Oktober]

15. I love how he just trails off...

'it's not sayin that you belive in God, it's just saying you are looking for his help.... Uh....'

Moving on....

[jmowreader]

16. I think "JP-8" has something to do with it...

[sarge43]

20. Balancing lift, drag, thrust, weight and an equal number of takeoffs and landings, too.

Swearing to a deity is not a factor in the laws of aerodynamics. That old fud has gone off to lalaland.

[Maynar]

90. A long, LONG time ago.

Beats me why anybody listens to him at all.

[Android3.14]

17. His intake of BP medicine must be phenomenal

The guy just moves from one crisis of the spirit to the next, and he'll eventually die thinking the forces of e-veel have prevailed. He must be one of the most fearful celebrities on the planet.

[lastlib]

23. Reverend Ancient Babble-On has spoken!

I love it when these guys get their panties in a wad!

[LiberalElite]

24. God must be OK with it -

less work for him/her/it.

[DinahMoeHum]

25. FYI, Robertson was a draft-dodger from Korean War days. . .

His daddy was US Senator from Va (A. Willis Robertson) who pulled strings to keep his chickenshit son from serving.

[blkmusclmachine]

35. "God works in mysterious ways."

[Brother Buzz]

41. Um, he served as a liquor officer in Korea because his pops pulled strings

<snip>

Revelations about Robertson's war record also dogged his campaign. In his campaign literature Robertson claimed to be a combat veteran of the Korean War. In fact, he served three miles from the front in a headquarters function ferrying codes to Japan and never saw combat.

Former GOP congressman Pete McCloskey of California, who served in the same unit as Robertson, claimed that Robertson had relied on his father's influence to get him out of combat duty. Robertson was so rankled by the charge that he sued McCloskey and Representative Andy Jacobs, an Indiana Democrat who also circulated the charges, for $35 million.

McCloskey insisted that Robertson was on a ship headed for combat until his father used his influence to have him removed. According to McCloskey, Robertson later boasted that he had used his father to "get him out of combat duty."

<more>

http://www.schlatter.org/liquor.htm

[toby jo]

42. Hmmm, just like he uses his 'father in heaven' to get out of growing up and confronting the issues

of being human.

[Brother Buzz]

43. His 'father in heaven' did not give him the clap when he was in Korea

and there's no proof Robertson contracted syphilis from goats.

So stop saying that!

[DinahMoeHum]

66. Thanks, I stand corrected. He was a "danger-dodger", a "REMF"

REMF = Rear Echelon Mother F***er

[tanyev]

26. Um, people who want to say it still can, Pat.

That's hardly terrorism.

[thesquanderer]

40. Exactly! No one is preventing anyone from swearing an oath to God if they want to.

It is merely not being required of them.

This ruling does not affect believers in any way whatsoever.

Just another in a long series of Robertson stupidities.

BTW, allowing gays to marry does not affect straight marriages in any way whatsoever, either.

I wish these folk would spend more time worrying about their own behaviors and less time worrying about what everyone else is or isn't doing.

[MADem]

27. I don't know why USAF had an idea--even for a nanosecond--that they weren't part of DoD.

The DoD rules have ALWAYS been clear on this. I've issued the oath with and without the GAWD, and I've also issued the oath with "affirm" for the people who don't like to "swear." This isn't news. The only "news" is that there are fucking IDIOTS in the USAF, apparently!

As for Pat Robertson, they'll fly on the wings that science helped them design....! But how TELLING that he is "Jew blaming" for this incident....so much for his "solidarity with Israel and the Jewish people" bullshit to help himself get all"raptured" or whatever!

[Oktober]

31. It is odd...

It's like they thought no one would notice when they took the option out in 2013...

[MADem]

38. If I were responsible for the crafting of that directive, my first question would be

"Who failed to adequately proofread this document?"

I mean, that's a huge bozo no-no. I'll bet it won't be too hard to figure out who made that change. All the working materials should still be on file--they don't go in the shredder for another year.

[Feral Child]

28. Hateful, hateful man.

His inner-Goebbels is showing.

[TNNurse]

29. It is not that I wish him ill or anything

But I think getting Pat Robertson so upset he "loses it" every day for awhile would be a good thing. I am talking jumping up and down screaming fits. He really needs to scream and holler and spew his particular kind of hateful beliefs so all will know that this is not based on any Christian teachings. If God could strike him dead in the middle of one of them that would only be his choice not mine.

[Gothmog]

30. Robertson has been senile for a whole

[sinkingfeeling]

32. Yep, God's the only thing that keeps planes in the air.

[Baitball Blogger]

33. .

[blkmusclmachine]

36. Here's the strength of their "faith":

[blkmusclmachine]

37. Pic URL http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/walker66/popemobile-papa2532011pu.jpg

Caption is mine

[MADem]

39. I don't think this Pope uses that thing.

That looks like Bennie in the back.

They invented that thing because that Turkish guy shot JP2....he never used one before that event, either.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/14/world/europe/pope-francis-interview-popemobile/

Francis ditches bulletproof Popemobile, says 'at my age I don't have much to lose'

[PeoViejo]

46. God is my Copilot

How I wish he could fly this thing.

[Thor_MN]

78. My niece served me up the perfect straight line when she FB posted a picture of her dog

in the passenger seat of her car and said "My copilot."

I replied saying we needed to get her tested for dyslexia.

[truthisfreedom]

47. Living on paranoia dollars leads to hate speech

Must need a new wing on his mansion.

[SoapBox]

48. Isn't this evil man dead yet?

What a whack job.

[yurbud]

49. It seems like there's a concerted effort to create a sectarian right wing military

Which would be more willing to turn their guns on those who don't recognize the good ordained hierarchy of society.

[Fearless]

50. Science my dear sir. Science.

[LiberalAndProud]

54. He never had it to lose.

Just sayin'

[RKP5637]

55. Pat is very consistent! Consistently a wacko! n/t

[muntrv]

58. It's called aeropace engineering, something Pat cannot comprehend.

[tclambert]

59. Indeed, how can airplanes fly, except by God's grace?

It is a mystery that science has never been able to explain.

[Arugula Latte]

63. God is the wind beneath airplane wings!

You need a magical supernatural invisible creature to make stuff go -- that's just logic right there.

[Thor_MN]

77. Tide goes in, clean clothes come out. No one can explain it.

BillO pondering a washing machine.

[TygrBright]

60. Dude, it's called "Physics." Yeah, the devil invented it. ::snork:: n/t

[frylock]

61. i once read this story where this one little jewish guy was terrorizing people..

i think his name was Jesus.

[Bartlet]

65. Could you be a bigger moron pat?

[Dont call me Shirley]

67. Pat better calm down or he's going to hurl up a gold nugget one of these days

[Agony]

68. now we need to get the god crap out of the jury oath and off the wall above the judges head

and out of the pledge so his head will explode.

[Moonwalk]

69. He's right! I think every Air Force Christian who believes as Pat believes should...

...Leave the Air Force right now. There's no way any of those pilots should fly in those planes any longer. It's just not safe and how can they trust the Air Force when it's allowing itself to be terrorized so? (Better to be terrorized by Pat, right?)

Thanks Pat, for pointing that out. I hope all those pilots listen to you and resign immediately and leave behind all kinds of openings for, oh, I dunno, left-wing Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, atheists, etc. Let them try to fly those planes without being forced to make an oath to god! Serve 'em right.

You've saved many lives this day.

[KamaAina]

70. "How can they fly?"

They're not bumblebees, Pat.

[Orsino]

93. Using science, Pat.

It has launched a lot more planes than faith.

[El Shaman]

71. Pat's eyes are always squinting:

like he soiled his 'depends' !!

[Blue Owl]

73. How about we just bomb in Pat's name?

n/t

[SummerSnow]

74. Read his bio pat, he isn't left-wing. he is truly a conservative.

[RandySF]

76. I think the planes have a lot to do with them flying.

[DreamGypsy]

79. Perhaps the oath "So help me Bernouli" could be substituted...

... it generally works for class Aves (except for abernouli-ists, like ostriches), should work for genus Homo.

[BlueStreak]

80. How can we expect atheists to properly bomb the hell out of Muslims?

If you want a Crusade, you really need some Christians.

[Loki]

82. Ah, it does my heart good to know

That Pat Robertson is losing his shit.

[deafskeptic]

83. A Jewish radical? *Arches an Eyebrow.*

Well now, we know for sure he's a racist toward Jews. As if we didn't know it already I don't see how not swearing an oath makes it impossible to fly. I don't follow the logic unless it's being forbidden to fly.

[Maynar]

91. I hate semantics too

Damn the language police anyway!

[Dr. Xavier]

87. Someone tell Pat

that according to the Bible, swearing an oath is blasphemy. And swearing an oath to God is double blasphemy cause you're using God's name in vain. What a maroon?

[treestar]

88. Loved this comment

If Marion Gordon (Pat) Robertson lived during the time of the Old Testament he would have been put to death already. He has made so many false prophecies that it would have been incumbent on the children of Israel to put him to death or suffer the consequences of disobeying their God's word.

[defacto7]

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