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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 02:53 PM Sep 2014

ISIS Fighters Terrified Of Being Killed by Female Troops (runs from Kurd Pershmega 2nd Battallion)

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by azurnoir (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: The New York Post

Kurdish fighters battling ISIS desperately want more guns and armor, but they already have a secret weapon: The fanatics they’re fighting fear that if they get killed in combat by a woman, they won’t go to heaven. “They have many female battalions, as you know who fought very bravely,” Rep. Ed Royce (R-Calif.), who chairs the House International Relations Committee, told The Post of the Kurds.

ISIS militants are afraid they won’t go to heaven if they are killed by a woman. Royce, who met this week with the foreign minister of Kurdistan, cited recent reports of young female Kurdish troops “laughing” at ISIS forces they had turned back. “These ISIL soldiers apparently believed that if they were killed in battle, they went to paradise as long as they were killed by a man,” Royce explained, using another acronym for the terror group.

“And these female soldiers were communicating their satisfaction with the fact that they had taken the fight to ISIL and had stopped the advance, turned back the advance — slayed a number of these fighters, who would then run away,” he added with a chuckle. Women have long fought in Kurdish peshmerga forces, who have been battling ISIS in northern Iraq and in Kurdish areas of Syria.
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Col. Nahida Ahmad Rashid, commander of the 2nd BattalionPhoto: A 27-year-old female Kurdish fighter named Tekoshin fighting in northern Iraq recently gloated to AFP: “I think [ISIS] were more afraid of us than of the men.” The Kalashnikov-toting fighter added: “They believe they’ll go to hell if they die at a woman’s hands.” Some women who have fled the brutal oppression of ISIS have been organized into special Women’s Protection Units in Syria to do battle.

Read more: http://nypost.com/2014/09/19/isis-fighters-terrified-of-being-killed-by-female-troops/



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ISIS Fighters Terrified Of Being Killed by Female Troops (runs from Kurd Pershmega 2nd Battallion) (Original Post) big_dog Sep 2014 OP
LOL! whathehell Sep 2014 #1
GO GET EM female Peshmerga fighters !! big_dog Sep 2014 #4
"...slayed a number of these fighters, who would then run away" OnlinePoker Sep 2014 #2
I caught that also. I thought: Well, THAT'S rather unusual. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #39
Nope. silverweb Sep 2014 #3
Thanks caraher Sep 2014 #6
Nowhere does that article show where the Post article is wrong or that its a "myth". 7962 Sep 2014 #11
All the article says is that ISIS has female enforcers... MADem Sep 2014 #21
Nope again. silverweb Sep 2014 #25
They didn't prove their assertion in that piece. MADem Sep 2014 #26
Maybe, maybe not. silverweb Sep 2014 #27
There are a segment of fundamentalists of all faiths who consider women to be "unclean." MADem Sep 2014 #40
HAHA!! Go get 'em - and tell them that you're virgins to boot!!! George II Sep 2014 #5
who'd have thunk that the Achilles Heel of ISIS was a Kuridsh teenage girl firing a rifle in the air big_dog Sep 2014 #7
But ISIL has nothing to do with religion or Islam seveneyes Sep 2014 #8
it all sounds like hokum to me--'my imaginary extremist religious friend is better than yours' etc. big_dog Sep 2014 #10
So why don't we tell them we are using all female pilots to bomb them? Baclava Sep 2014 #9
I nominate Lt Heather 'Lucky' Penney big_dog Sep 2014 #14
Or just have a woman push the button??? grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #24
I figured this story was bullshit. Archae Sep 2014 #12
LOL if true. freshwest Sep 2014 #13
Damn, this gets funkier all the time. malthaussen Sep 2014 #15
I was wondering what the Kurds were doing inside Syria, we may have an answer now big_dog Sep 2014 #17
Find the weaknesses! These are very superstitious people. louis-t Sep 2014 #16
this is the most terrifying thing an ISIS fighter can see on planet earth! big_dog Sep 2014 #18
Could be true. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2014 #19
Air drop 100,000 blow up dolls outfitted in full battle gear TheCowsCameHome Sep 2014 #41
Send them all to hell, Ladies! notadmblnd Sep 2014 #20
now this is a foreign policy i can definitely get behind! no running from battle with these ladies. big_dog Sep 2014 #28
Well then, let's man our drones with women. Although this war is stupid. Out now. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #22
I've got an ex-wife that will scare the hell all of them and she won't even need a weapon. santamargarita Sep 2014 #23
The Kurdish Femail Fighters also carry a Hand Grenade PeoViejo Sep 2014 #29
this exposes what cowards ISIS really are at the core. the whole world should know about this big_dog Sep 2014 #31
THIS is how Obama should fight ISIS. RandySF Sep 2014 #30
perhaps POTUS was using this as the 'element of surprise!' all along big_dog Sep 2014 #36
And why grandpamike1 Sep 2014 #32
Whoa! I'm rooting for these lady fighters! TRoN33 Sep 2014 #33
Good. I'll be right there. elleng Sep 2014 #34
If true... let's paint all of our military aircraft in the area pink. nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #35
I AM WOMAN ..... HEAR ME ROAR! !!! ! ! ! ! !!!!! trueblue2007 Sep 2014 #37
Talk about VA_Jill Sep 2014 #38
Okay, I'm nearing 80, just had a hip replacement, and am an anti-gun nut. classof56 Sep 2014 #42
Hey...I loved YOUR post!!!! nt MADem Sep 2014 #43
The Pesmerge Force for Women Sunlei Sep 2014 #44
Once again ISIS shows that all religious fundamentalists are alike Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #45
very sorry locking please post in General discussion azurnoir Sep 2014 #46

whathehell

(30,468 posts)
1. LOL!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:00 PM
Sep 2014

Wonderful way using their misogyny against them.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
4. GO GET EM female Peshmerga fighters !!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:03 PM
Sep 2014

OnlinePoker

(6,127 posts)
2. "...slayed a number of these fighters, who would then run away"
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:00 PM
Sep 2014

Neat trick.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
39. I caught that also. I thought: Well, THAT'S rather unusual.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:21 PM
Sep 2014

silverweb

(16,410 posts)
3. Nope.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:00 PM
Sep 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I was looking for a more reputable source than the NYP and found this:

[font face="Arial"]Myth #6: ISIS is afraid of female soldiers[font face="Verdana"]

caraher

(6,359 posts)
6. Thanks
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:05 PM
Sep 2014

The truthiness factor of the Post piece was dangerously high!

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
11. Nowhere does that article show where the Post article is wrong or that its a "myth".
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:17 PM
Sep 2014

Having all female ISIS squads doesnt mean that ISIS members arent afraid of being killed BY a woman. A WSJ story is the original source

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. All the article says is that ISIS has female enforcers...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:35 PM
Sep 2014

Who enforce "the rules" amongst the female population. Those women aren't fighters, and that shit wouldn't phase the Kurds, anyway. Kurds are quite egalitarian within their own cultural boundaries and limitations--it's a rather odd tension, there.

The ISIS enforcers act a lot like the "dress code" police on the streets of Iran..."Daughter, your manteau is too tight, your scarf should cover your hair, blah, blah, blah..." They aren't coming over the hill shooting at anyone. The Kurdish fighters, though--they'll mow ya down.

The sexism/misogyny that ISIS feels is REAL. It's not just ISIS, either--it's a commonly stupid attitude held by a number of ignorant nitwits in the region.

I could offer a few suggestions to really get those guys' goats, but this is DU and some folks looking for a fight might take my remarks the wrong way. Suffice it to say that they are especially terrified of women who are doing what comes naturally on a monthly basis, and that reality could be exploited if they had a mind to so do.

silverweb

(16,410 posts)
25. Nope again.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:41 PM
Sep 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]

"The 'ISIS is afraid of female fighters' theory comes from a stray quote in a Wall Street Journal piece about Kurdish advances against ISIS." [font face="Arial"] (bolding mine)
[font face="Verdana"]
Said quote is from a random Kurdish female soldier, which does not make her statement true, but perhaps just a battalion rumor or something from a "pep talk."

Unfortunately, the WSJ article cannot be read except by subscribers, which I am not, so I can't investigate further. However, I still wouldn't believe any Murdoch-tainted source without plenty of independent corroboration.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. They didn't prove their assertion in that piece.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:41 PM
Sep 2014

They just said that ISIS had a few female enforcers who enforced the rules amongst women. They use women to terrorize women, in essence. They aren't afraid of their OWN women enforcers, but why should they be? Their own cadres aren't looking to kill them (yet, anyway).

There's nothing in that piece that indicates that ISIS isn't fearful of women who are actually in battle against them.

I think the Kurds are onto something, and that's based on country knowledge/experience.

silverweb

(16,410 posts)
27. Maybe, maybe not.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:46 PM
Sep 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]All I'm saying is that I consider it unwise to swallow whole or spread a piece of information like that from a tainted source without plenty of independent corroboration.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
40. There are a segment of fundamentalists of all faiths who consider women to be "unclean."
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:39 PM
Sep 2014

And some of them consider them to be more "unclean" at certain times.

I know a flight attendant who cleared the aisles of these sorts of gentlemen simply by waving a tampon at them and bellowing "Coming through! Please be seated!" as she headed towards the rear of the plane.

They could not take their seats fast enough, simply to avoid possibly touching her.

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. HAHA!! Go get 'em - and tell them that you're virgins to boot!!!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:04 PM
Sep 2014
 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
7. who'd have thunk that the Achilles Heel of ISIS was a Kuridsh teenage girl firing a rifle in the air
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:10 PM
Sep 2014

get them to Nigeria against Boko Haram stat!!

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
8. But ISIL has nothing to do with religion or Islam
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:12 PM
Sep 2014

Surly they just want to kill people and have no religious motive from their early childhood brainwashing in pious attraction to a sword carrying prophet and a vengeful god.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
10. it all sounds like hokum to me--'my imaginary extremist religious friend is better than yours' etc.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:14 PM
Sep 2014

but ISIS expolits it for $2 billion worth of profit

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
9. So why don't we tell them we are using all female pilots to bomb them?
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:13 PM
Sep 2014

It doesn't say how you have to be killed, does it?

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
24. Or just have a woman push the button???
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:37 PM
Sep 2014
 

Archae

(47,245 posts)
12. I figured this story was bullshit.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:17 PM
Sep 2014

Probably will end up in an article in cracked.com soon.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. LOL if true.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:18 PM
Sep 2014

malthaussen

(18,567 posts)
15. Damn, this gets funkier all the time.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:20 PM
Sep 2014

NY Post, I see. Well, it could still be true. Male troops have always disliked fighting women. Or alongside them, if it comes to that.

-- Mal

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
17. I was wondering what the Kurds were doing inside Syria, we may have an answer now
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:22 PM
Sep 2014

n/t

louis-t

(24,618 posts)
16. Find the weaknesses! These are very superstitious people.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:21 PM
Sep 2014

I've read that ISIS have been hiding in caves and overrun by bees and bats. They started questioning if God is sending them signs. I guess they think it's humiliating to be killed by women. Exploit the weaknesses. Time for psy-ops.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
18. this is the most terrifying thing an ISIS fighter can see on planet earth!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:25 PM
Sep 2014

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
19. Could be true.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:26 PM
Sep 2014

Those crazies have some weird beliefs. Like the 72 virgins thing, fr'instance.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
41. Air drop 100,000 blow up dolls outfitted in full battle gear
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:42 PM
Sep 2014

over their hideouts/caves/crevices and watch them go berserk.

Bwahahahahahaha.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
20. Send them all to hell, Ladies!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:33 PM
Sep 2014
 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
28. now this is a foreign policy i can definitely get behind! no running from battle with these ladies.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:46 PM
Sep 2014

since there might not even be combat to begin with!

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
22. Well then, let's man our drones with women. Although this war is stupid. Out now.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:35 PM
Sep 2014

santamargarita

(3,170 posts)
23. I've got an ex-wife that will scare the hell all of them and she won't even need a weapon.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:36 PM
Sep 2014
 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
29. The Kurdish Femail Fighters also carry a Hand Grenade
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:49 PM
Sep 2014

to commit suicide in case of imminent capture.

ISIS has a special regimen for those few they do catch.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
31. this exposes what cowards ISIS really are at the core. the whole world should know about this
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:56 PM
Sep 2014

courageous armed females with guns ready to fight for their life and country and they start running for the hills!

RandySF

(84,263 posts)
30. THIS is how Obama should fight ISIS.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:52 PM
Sep 2014

Arm these ladies to the teeth with whatever they need. They'' get the job done.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
36. perhaps POTUS was using this as the 'element of surprise!' all along
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:04 PM
Sep 2014

a lot of these women do look like geniune badasses!

grandpamike1

(218 posts)
32. And why
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:57 PM
Sep 2014

would anyone believe anything that is printed in a Murdoch owned rag ?

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
33. Whoa! I'm rooting for these lady fighters!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:57 PM
Sep 2014

Run, ISIS sects, women are going after you!

elleng

(141,926 posts)
34. Good. I'll be right there.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:59 PM
Sep 2014
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
35. If true... let's paint all of our military aircraft in the area pink. nt
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:03 PM
Sep 2014

trueblue2007

(19,251 posts)
37. I AM WOMAN ..... HEAR ME ROAR! !!! ! ! ! ! !!!!!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:09 PM
Sep 2014

VA_Jill

(14,371 posts)
38. Talk about
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:16 PM
Sep 2014

your Ladies From Hell!

classof56

(5,376 posts)
42. Okay, I'm nearing 80, just had a hip replacement, and am an anti-gun nut.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:54 PM
Sep 2014

But I'd gladly arm myself (learn how to shoot one of those weapons first, of course), don the uniform and charge into battle with an army of women ready to face the enemy head-on. Would do me a world of good to see those ISIS(L) "soldiers" turn tail and run at the sight of me and my compatriots. As Barbara Fritchie said to the redcoats during our Revolution, "Shoot if you must this old grey head..." I wouldn't even use my cane to hold me upright! These female troops make me proud to be a woman, and I can't think of a more noble way to exit this earth, should it come to that. Maybe I'll bring it up at my next mostly-female book club meeting when we're discussing The Guns of August.

Hey, an ol' gal can fantasize, can't she?

Love this post!!!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
43. Hey...I loved YOUR post!!!! nt
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:56 PM
Sep 2014

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
44. The Pesmerge Force for Women
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 05:02 PM
Sep 2014


Pêşmerge

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
45. Once again ISIS shows that all religious fundamentalists are alike
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 05:17 PM
Sep 2014

Now we know who to fight a bunch of morons caught up in superstitious medieval misogyny.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
46. very sorry locking please post in General discussion
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 05:34 PM
Sep 2014

as this is background as opposed to Latest Breaking news

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