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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 05:57 PM Sep 2014

Last miners union in 'Salt of the Earth' area ends

Source: Associated Press

Last miners union in 'Salt of the Earth' area ends
The Associated Press
September 23, 2014 Updated 13 minutes ago

SILVER CITY, N.M. — Miners in a southwestern New Mexico county once famous for its labor activism have voted against participating in the union.

The United Steelworkers Union members at Chino Mine in Hurley, New Mexico, recently voted 236 to 83 against participating in the union in a decertification election, the Silver City Sun-News reports (http://goo.gl/L7ktPx).

Grant County, where the 1954 "Salt of the Earth" movie based on an actual strike against the Empire Zinc Mine was filmed, now won't have union representation at any mine within the county.

The decertification vote was brought about by one man who began a successful petition to end the union.

~snip~
"Salt of the Earth" was blacklisted in the U.S. during Cold War retribution against communist filmmakers and gained an underground following more than a decade later when it was finally shown. In the film, Mexican-American miners barred by federal law from striking against a zinc company were replaced on the picket lines by their wives.

Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/09/23/3390579_last-miners-union-in-salt-of-the.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

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Last miners union in 'Salt of the Earth' area ends (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2014 OP
Damn, they killed Joe Hill at last? malthaussen Sep 2014 #1
Hope it's just a rumor. Joe Hill must come back. Thanks for that wonderful video. Judi Lynn Sep 2014 #10
I did a history paper on the Wobblies in the 9th grade. malthaussen Sep 2014 #20
The working class has been brainwashed into voting against their own interests. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #2
Salt of the Earth is available on youtub in it's entirety... adirondacker Sep 2014 #3
Really worth watching! Because of the Hollywood witch hunt by Joe McCarthy, the black-listed FailureToCommunicate Sep 2014 #11
The non-actors were great! The film was history, itself. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2014 #16
+1000. Woman's rights, Race discrimination and Economic equality adirondacker Sep 2014 #18
I watched it last night and thought to myself... Holy Shit! adirondacker Sep 2014 #21
Very interesting history behind that film. Thank you, so much. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2014 #13
Thank you for posting this OP. adirondacker Sep 2014 #19
Well, I'm sure management will be grateful and treat everyone well................ NOT! mountain grammy Sep 2014 #4
Their pay will be cut to ... aggiesal Sep 2014 #5
here shaayecanaan Sep 2014 #6
Now it is likely that workers in neither mine will receive a bonus. amandabeech Sep 2014 #7
Perhaps the workers believe that they are getting the most they an this way salib Sep 2014 #9
Good to see this photo in your link: Judi Lynn Sep 2014 #14
I was once a union copper miner in Grant Co. BarbaRosa Sep 2014 #8
Why do you think that they've decertified the union? nt shaayecanaan Sep 2014 #12
I have no idea, BarbaRosa Sep 2014 #17
Amazing machine! Thank you for sharing the photo. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2014 #15
Shame what greed does. Octafish Sep 2014 #22

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
10. Hope it's just a rumor. Joe Hill must come back. Thanks for that wonderful video.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:32 PM
Sep 2014

You might find this info. interesting, by the way, if you haven't seen it already:


Examining a Labor Hero’s Death

By STEVEN GREENHOUSE

Published: August 26, 2011

At Woodstock, Joan Baez sang a famous folk ballad celebrating Joe Hill, the itinerant miner, songwriter and union activist who was executed by a Utah firing squad in 1915. “I never died, said he” is the song’s refrain.

Hill’s status as a labor icon and the debate about his conviction certainly never died. And now a new biography makes the strongest case yet that Hill was wrongfully convicted of murdering a local grocer, the charge that led to his execution at age 36.

The book’s author, William M. Adler, argues that Hill was a victim of authorities and a jury eager to deal a blow to his radical labor union, as well as his own desire to protect the identity of his sweetheart.

A Salt Lake City jury convicted Hill largely because of one piece of circumstantial evidence: he had suffered a gunshot wound to the chest on the same night — Jan. 10, 1914 — that the grocer and his son were killed. At the trial, prosecutors argued that he had been shot by the grocer’s son, and Hill refused to offer any alternative explanation.

Mr. Adler uncovered a long-forgotten letter from Hill’s sweetheart that said that he had been shot by a rival for her affections, undermining the prosecution’s key assertion. The book, “The Man Who Never Died,” also offers extensive evidence suggesting that an early suspect in the case, a violent career criminal, was the murderer.

Hill, who bounced around the West as a miner, longshoreman and union organizer, was the leading songwriter for the Industrial Workers of the World, also known as the Wobblies, a prominent union that was widely feared and deplored for its militant tactics. He penned dozens of songs that excoriated bosses and capitalism and wrote the well-known lyric “You’ll get pie in the sky when you die.”

His conviction was so controversial that President Woodrow Wilson twice wrote to Utah’s governor to urge him to spare Hill’s life, and unions as far away as Australia protested on his behalf.

More:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/27/us/27hill.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

malthaussen

(17,194 posts)
20. I did a history paper on the Wobblies in the 9th grade.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:14 AM
Sep 2014

They still taught labor history then. I didn't know about Adler's book, I'll have to check it out.

-- Mal

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
11. Really worth watching! Because of the Hollywood witch hunt by Joe McCarthy, the black-listed
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:03 PM
Sep 2014

directors used many non-actors. The performances are pretty amazing. The film is as much about women's rights as the miners...

Juan Chacon and Rosaura Revueltas!

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
18. +1000. Woman's rights, Race discrimination and Economic equality
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:56 AM
Sep 2014

It's an absolutely perfect movie for our present times.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
21. I watched it last night and thought to myself... Holy Shit!
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 10:23 PM
Sep 2014

60 years ahead of their time! It was Great acting and Awesome directing and production. I loved it when they gave up the radio.

Pretty sad on how far we haven't come though.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
19. Thank you for posting this OP.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:04 AM
Sep 2014

I would have never found and watched the movie if it hadn't been posted. As I mentioned up thread, this is a movie that fits so well into our present time.

Solidarity!

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
4. Well, I'm sure management will be grateful and treat everyone well................ NOT!
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:48 PM
Sep 2014

The union shop where I was a steward voted out the union 5 years after I left. They've had their pay frozen twice and their vacation benefits we bargained so hard for rolled back. The idiots still think they're better off. Some people just don't deserve a union.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
5. Their pay will be cut to ...
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 06:50 PM
Sep 2014

$0.77 per dollar, and the company that runs the Chino Mine will now claim
[Font color=Red]Pay Equality[/font], since the men will not make the same as the women.

Do I need to put the emoticon?

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
6. here
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 07:24 PM
Sep 2014

Santa Maria said the mine workers voted overwhelmingly against the union, because "greed got to them." He claims mine workers receive a bonus at the Tyrone Mine which workers at Chino Mine did not because they were unionized. Freeport McMoRan did not confirm or deny this statement by press time.

http://www.scsun-news.com/silver_city-news/ci_26584947

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
7. Now it is likely that workers in neither mine will receive a bonus.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 08:00 PM
Sep 2014

The bonus was probably paid to keep workers satisfied sufficiently that they wouldn't bring in a union.

Now, without union competition, the mine owner and others in the area will just push down wages, benefits and working conditions.

salib

(2,116 posts)
9. Perhaps the workers believe that they are getting the most they an this way
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:00 PM
Sep 2014

And can always vote for a union (presumably a more effective on, or so they think) later.

It would not be the first time.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
14. Good to see this photo in your link:
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:19 PM
Sep 2014

[center][/center]
Thank you.

What a shame the parasites at the top won this time.

I'm convinced the real workers are going to win, in time.

BarbaRosa

(2,684 posts)
8. I was once a union copper miner in Grant Co.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 08:29 PM
Sep 2014

I worked with some of Juan Chacon's relatives back in the '70's-'80's. Not at Chino, but a smaller copper mine in the area.

I was in the Operating Engineers Union, drove a haulage truck and operated some heavy machinery until I "froze" myself on the haulage trucks.


Euclid 50 ton

BarbaRosa

(2,684 posts)
17. I have no idea,
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:36 AM
Sep 2014

it's been a long time since I have anything to do with the mines or the unions and I haven't kept up.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
22. Shame what greed does.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:10 AM
Sep 2014

How many millions of lives have unions improved?

How many millions have died in the various unending wars on "Godless" communism to protect the property owners?

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