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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,290 posts)
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:49 PM Sep 2014

UPDATE | Jim Traficant in 'very critical' condition after accident at farm

Source: Youngstown {Ohio} Vindicator

Published: Wed, September 24, 2014 @ 9:05 a.m.

GREENFORD — Ex-U.S. Rep. James A. Traficant Jr. is in “very critical condition” after an accident on his family farm, his wife, Tish Traficant, said today.

The former congressman, 73, is “sedated and he’s not doing well,” his wife told The Vindicator a few minutes before heading back to the St. Elizabeth Health Center in Youngstown, where he was taken after first being rushed to Salem Regional Hospital.

She didn’t have details about the accident except that about 8 p.m. Tuesday, a tractor he was riding fell on him, and trapped him underneath. She was with her husband until 3:30 a.m. today and then returned to the hospital about 8:30 a.m.

The accident occurred at the family farm on West South Range Road, according to a dispatcher with the Goshen Police Department, which has jurisdiction in Greenford.

Read more: http://www.vindy.com/news/2014/sep/24/update-jim-traficant-very-critical-condition-after/



His name might not ring a bell, but his toupée will:



Had there been an employer-employee relationship in this situation (i.e., had Traficant been on the job for pay), OSHA standard 1928.51 would have applied:

Roll-over protective structures (ROPS) for tractors used in agricultural operations

Vehicle Hazards in Agricultural Operations

The OSH Act requires an approved ROPs for all agricultural tractors over 20 horsepower that were manufactured after October 25, 1976, and which are operated by a hired worker. (1928.51(b)(1))
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UPDATE | Jim Traficant in 'very critical' condition after accident at farm (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2014 OP
How is his hair? msanthrope Sep 2014 #1
Its safe....he wasnt weating "it"... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #11
it's made of space age polymers Doctor_J Sep 2014 #27
How awful!!! Rhiannon12866 Sep 2014 #2
SHIT. Farming is a helluva dangerous occupation/profession/activity. bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #3
the most dangerous. mopinko Sep 2014 #14
Yep. A good friend of my brother was widowed at a very young age when her husband was killed in a kath Sep 2014 #17
Wishing him a recovery, or condolences to the family if he does not. eom uppityperson Sep 2014 #4
He looks like a lost Smother Brother. closeupready Sep 2014 #5
This happened a few years ago to my dentist Samantha Sep 2014 #6
amazing what can be done with backs today MFM008 Sep 2014 #31
Wow, that is great! Jamastiene Sep 2014 #36
Ouchie shenmue Sep 2014 #7
Oh, hell. I wouldn't wish a tractor turning turtle on anyone. politicat Sep 2014 #8
If he doesn't make it, KamaAina Sep 2014 #9
My dad was once crushed by a tractor, but survived. sinkingfeeling Sep 2014 #10
Almost happened to me once. PeoViejo Sep 2014 #12
I learned how to drive on a John Deere 50 Kaleva Sep 2014 #18
That's the critter PeoViejo Sep 2014 #23
With a hand clutch, shifting on the fly was a skill Kaleva Sep 2014 #40
My first ride was a 1947 Farmall Cub kwassa Sep 2014 #34
This was the hay mower at my grandfather's Kaleva Sep 2014 #39
I haven't seen a mower like that in years. Skidmore Sep 2014 #41
We used ours mostly to mow along our quarter-mile long driveway. I learned to do it at kwassa Sep 2014 #42
Tractors are known to tip backward and land on their riders. My uncle was very young when the jwirr Sep 2014 #13
Oh NO! MADem Sep 2014 #15
LOL, but feel sorry for him and hiw wife. I lost a dear friend to a farm accident. freshwest Sep 2014 #19
I feel for his family, too. Like I said, he could be a bit of something, but he was always MADem Sep 2014 #24
I always like what he said when people said that pre Roe vs Wade Abortions did not happen,. happyslug Sep 2014 #25
I understand what you are saying. He was, indeed, a mixed bag as a congressman. MADem Sep 2014 #29
That is how we lost Merle Watson... FailureToCommunicate Sep 2014 #16
it certainly is AlecBGreen Sep 2014 #20
true that Doctor_J Sep 2014 #28
Tractors are genuinely dangerous implements. Paladin Sep 2014 #21
Was he wearing his red vest or his dark brown pants? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #22
Horrible Aerows Sep 2014 #26
I wouldn't either. n/t Jamastiene Sep 2014 #37
I hope he will be okay. NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #30
I generally feel that the term "bad guy" applies... brooklynite Sep 2014 #32
You're probably right... NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #33
National Farm Safety and Health Week Sept. 21-27 mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2014 #35
Years ago, I worked on a boat; one day, we were floating on the current closeupready Sep 2014 #38
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
27. it's made of space age polymers
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:02 PM
Sep 2014

If it got caught in a combine, the combine would probably get the worst of it

mopinko

(69,990 posts)
14. the most dangerous.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 02:37 PM
Sep 2014

when my relatives ask my how i can stand the big ole dangerous city, i tell them i am safe from getting sucked into the combine.

may the family have peace.

kath

(10,565 posts)
17. Yep. A good friend of my brother was widowed at a very young age when her husband was killed in a
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 02:45 PM
Sep 2014

Farm accident.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
6. This happened a few years ago to my dentist
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 02:04 PM
Sep 2014

He was riding a tractor which got caught on a tree root, and the tractor fell over on him. His back was broken. It was terrible. He thought about giving up his practice, but saw a number of doctors, one of whom said the break could probably be fixed surgically. He had the operation, and today it is as if the accident never happened. He is very fortunate to have recovered his life.

Sam

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
31. amazing what can be done with backs today
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:23 AM
Sep 2014

my mom had a very painful spinal fracture a couple of years ago she got an injection that filled the break with a bone like cement and she walked out fine and pain free two hours later. The doctor told us that what they did to her could not have been done 5 years before that.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
36. Wow, that is great!
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:34 PM
Sep 2014

I always thought a broken back or neck meant death or permanently paralyzed. Mothers everywhere always tell their kids they will break their necks or their backs, because of that. It's amazing how much has changed, for the better, in this case.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. If he doesn't make it,
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 02:14 PM
Sep 2014

he should be buried with his rug on. Or else it should be donated to the Smithsonian.

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
12. Almost happened to me once.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 02:21 PM
Sep 2014

I had a 1946 John Deer Tractor. I was plowing some new land when the plow caught a large rock. The tractor reared up like a Bronco, but I was quick enough to kill the engine before it landed on its back with me under it. Those old Tractors are Widow-makers. Driving one of those is no place to be drunk or high.

Kaleva

(36,246 posts)
40. With a hand clutch, shifting on the fly was a skill
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 02:30 PM
Sep 2014

At first, I bite down on the steering wheel so I could operate the clutch with one hand and work the shift lever with the other. I did that till I hit a bump one day and thought I had all my teeth ripped out of my mouth. I then modified my technique by pushing my left shoulder against the steering wheel as I shifted. Later, when I got older, I was able to shift quick enough that I didn't need to hold on to the steering wheel.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
34. My first ride was a 1947 Farmall Cub
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:32 AM
Sep 2014

like this one.

I used to cut grass with a cutting bar like this. Switching it over to the snowplow attachment in the winter was a total bitch. I had no near-death experiences, though, except later on motor cycles.


Kaleva

(36,246 posts)
39. This was the hay mower at my grandfather's
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 02:23 PM
Sep 2014

Towed behind the tractor driven by an uncle, my job was to sit on the seat and when we had to make a turn, I pushed down on a foot pedal which raised the sickle bar.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
41. I haven't seen a mower like that in years.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 02:42 PM
Sep 2014

Our neighbor had one and he used to mow the road side down the gravel road we lived on. That sucker was scary when it was in chomping mode.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
42. We used ours mostly to mow along our quarter-mile long driveway. I learned to do it at
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:47 PM
Sep 2014

age 13 or so.

We had to plow the same driveway in the winter, too.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
13. Tractors are known to tip backward and land on their riders. My uncle was very young when the
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 02:23 PM
Sep 2014

tractor tipped over on him and he jumped free just in time. It is a common farm accident.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. Oh NO!
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 02:40 PM
Sep 2014

The guy could be a total jerk.

He was certainly a criminal.

He was a lousy Democrat.

But damn...he was ALWAYS entertaining.

I wonder if he'll survive, or if his wish to "BEAM...ME...UP!!!!" will be granted?

My sympathies are with his family.

For those who have forgotten, or are too young to remember:



MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. I feel for his family, too. Like I said, he could be a bit of something, but he was always
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:25 PM
Sep 2014

entertaining. He did the crime and he did the time. He never pulled a punch--he called 'em as he saw 'em, even if his vision was a bit impaired.

Whatever happens, I hope his loved ones are OK. He did care about his family, and that counts for something, surely.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
25. I always like what he said when people said that pre Roe vs Wade Abortions did not happen,.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:46 PM
Sep 2014

His retort was in the 1960s he had been Sheriff deputy of the County Youngstown was the major City in and many a time he sat beside a young girl who was bleeding to death do to a botched illegal abortion. He said that every time he voted AGAINST a restriction on Abortion, even while pointing out he was a church going Catholic.

Yes, he was and is a Social Conservative (do NOT expect him to come out for Gay Rights etc), but he was as pro Social Security, Pro Union etc as you can be to make his a economic progressive on those issues. Thus in many ways he reflected the Democratic Party of Western Pennsylvania and Eastern Ohio.

His opposition to immigration had more to do with keeping wages UP then anything else. Immigration has always been used as a way to REDUCE wages and is one of the reason the top 1% had obtain almost all of the benefits of productivity since 1970, as oppose to prior to that date when such increase in productively was more evenly spread out among all classes of society.

People may call him a bad Democrat, but he represented his district who were more concerned about their ECONOMIC well being then any other fact. These he was a Economic Progressive and a Social Conservative that supported abortion rights.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. I understand what you are saying. He was, indeed, a mixed bag as a congressman.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:15 PM
Sep 2014

And you are right, he accurately represented the sentiments of his district--it's why they returned him enthusiastically to his seat, even as he was embroiled in allegations of scandal and corruption.

He was certainly entertaining--those awful leisure suits, that squirrel on his head--and those MISTAH. SPEEEKAH. BEAM. ME. UP. one-minute speeches--hilarious. I managed to catch a few of them when I was on the Hill--not to be missed.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
30. I hope he will be okay.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:28 AM
Sep 2014

Where I live, I've known of a lot of farm accidents, some even more gruesome than this. Farming is a very dangerous profession.

Traficant is quite the character, but I don't think he's really a bad guy.

brooklynite

(94,331 posts)
32. I generally feel that the term "bad guy" applies...
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:33 AM
Sep 2014

...to someone convicted of bribery, tax evasion and racketeering.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
33. You're probably right...
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:04 AM
Sep 2014

but there are a lot worse people out there who never went to jail. At least Traficant was entertaining.

He's an old man who was injured in a horrible accident. No he's not a role model, but I still hope he's okay.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,290 posts)
35. National Farm Safety and Health Week Sept. 21-27
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:00 PM
Sep 2014

It's an example of irony, I guess.

I read he was driving an antique tractor. That makes ROPS - a rollover protective structure - unlikely.

OSHA and agriculture community come together to promote safety education during National Farm Safety and Health Week Sept. 21-27

OSHA News Release: (09/25/2014)
Contact Name: Scott Allen or Rhonda Burke
Phone Number: (312) 353-6976
Email:
Allen.Scott@dol.gov or Burke.Rhonda@dol.gov
Release Number: 14-1783-CHI

OSHA and agriculture community come together to promote safety education during National Farm Safety and Health Week Sept. 21-27

CHICAGO
— The agriculture sector accounted for 479 deaths in 2013. With a fatality rate of 22.2 for every 100,000 full-time workers, agriculture recorded the highest fatality rate of any industry sector. Additionally, more than 49,000 injuries were recorded in 2012, the last year for which statistics were available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Agriculture employs more than 2 million people in the United States.

OSHA and agriculture community come together to promote safety education during National Farm Safety and Health Week Sept. 21-27
The U.S. Department of Labor's Occupational Safety and Health Administration is supporting the National Education Center for Agricultural Safety's National Farm Safety and Health Week Sept. 21-27 by emphasizing the importance of worker safety in the industry. The theme for this year's National Farm Safety and Health Week is "Safety Counts: Protecting What Matters."

"Promoting safety and health on American farms and increasing awareness of the confined space, farm equipment, grain handling and other hazards in the agricultural industry has been a priority of OSHA, agribusinesses and farm agencies in recent years," said Nick Walters, regional administrator for OSHA in Chicago. "Protecting the safety and health of agricultural workers is important to all of us in the Midwest."

Farm Safety and Health Week has been observed during September annually since 1944 as farmers prepare for harvest. The NECAS has posted informational safety and health materials on its website at www.necasag.org.
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
38. Years ago, I worked on a boat; one day, we were floating on the current
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:02 PM
Sep 2014

downstream. At some point, we started to approach a low-lying bridge, and we weren't sure we would clear it. I was drawn in closely to watch and see; we just made it by an inch or so, but in the process, I nearly got decapitated - I'd forgotten that I was on a large moving structure approaching an immovable object. I'll never forget that close call.

Obviously, most people don't work on boats, but more generally, freak accidents happen when you work around large, powerful machines. (Stories like this always bring back that time and even some of the dread.)

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