Ukraine president sets 2020 as EU target date, defends peace plan.

[dipsydoodle]

Source: Reuters.

President Petro Poroshenko proclaimed reforms on Thursday spanning all aspects of life to make strife-torn Ukraine fit for European Union membership, warning his people that without reform they would face a future "alone with Russia."

Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/09/25/uk-ukraine-crisis-president-idUKKCN0HK0OE20140925

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2020 ? In your dreams sunshine.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

1. It's what the majority of Ukrainians wanted, whether you like it or not. nt

[The Magistrate]

2. It Is The Undertone Of Glee, Sir, Which Jars So...

Even if one takes seriously the idea that people are opposing some real act of imperialism by the U.S. and NATO and the EU, opposing that remains something different from cheering for the success of Russian imperialism.

[dipsydoodle]

5. Now try reading my other post

and stop maybe making assumptions. Reasons therein. Try reading Muriel's response too.

[The Magistrate]

6. Why Bother, Sir? Your Tone Was Plain Enough

A doubt the man you refer to is, in any case, a half-wit, by any generally recognized definition of the term.

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. Since the new European Commission president has ruled out anyone joining before 2019

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/16/scottish-independence-juncker_n_5590637.html

And Albania, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro and Turkey are all in the queue in front of Ukraine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_enlargement_of_the_European_Union

Ukraine won't be able to join the EU by 2020. Wednesday was the 1st day in months that no-one died in the civil war. A country has to be stable before it joins.

[dipsydoodle]

4. Are you trying to be funny ?

I made no reference to their population for whom I wish the best for whatever they may want.

I referred to being led by a halfwit. I can only suggest you start from scratch here regarding membership applications : http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/policy/conditions-membership/index_en.htm

See here re. Turkey's for example and time range http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union

2020 is totally unrealistic. Not sure if the specific figure concerning max debt/GDP ration is included there or not. Perhap you could explain how they clear most of $220 billion in 6 years flat.

[cosmicone]

7. He is holding an unachievable carrot

in front of his populace before they start freezing this winter.

"Guys, be with me... the freeze will only last 6 years and summer will thaw you each year to give you a breather."

The reality is, even with membership in EU, Ukraine is an economic basket case, totally dependent on Russia just for geographic reasons.

So, joining EU does nothing for Ukraine except for a massive outflow of job seekers to the UK and Germany as they will be permitted to work without visas.

[oooooob]

8. More western capitalist hegonomy

So the Ukraine President is going to join the EU! Well, that is just about as far east as the American Empire can go. Just think, they will have Wal-Mart stores and McDonalds and mayby even have "Clear Radio" to listen to all day.

[geek tragedy]

9. You know the EU isn't part of the USA, right? nt

[oooooob]

10. Of course

But, the world banks got together to form the EU in the same manner as the US. It is my understanding that the US was creating havok in the Ukraine, before it all busted loose. There is no secret to US hegemony any where in the world. I really hope that the Ukraine changes it's collective mind, and rejects entering the EU.

[The Magistrate]

11. World Banks Formed The United States, Sir? Do, Please, Continue....

[geek tragedy]

12. Other than your statement of your

own opinion, nothing in your post is factually accurate.

[MattSh]

15. McDonalds has been in Ukraine 17 years already.

Only place with Mall-Warts in Europe is the UK.

And good luck getting in the EU...

[oooooob]

13. It is the same form of oppressive capitalism run by central banks

The European Central Bank (ECB)

The European Central Bank was established on 1 June 1998. It has legal personality and is fully independent of national and European institutions. The ECB ensures the smooth running of the Economic and Monetary Union by managing the European System of Central Banks (ESCB). Its primary objective is to maintain price stability by defining the monetary policy of the Union.

ACT

Protocol on the Statute of the European System of Central Banks and of the European Central Bank annexed to the Treaty on European Union and the Treaty on the Functioning of the EU [Official Journal C 83 of 30.3.2010].

SUMMARY

This Protocol sets out the responsibilities of the decision-making bodies of the European Central Bank (ECB), which manages the European System of Central Banks (ESCB). It also explains the aims and tasks of the ESCB. The Protocol was annexed to the Treaty on European Union (EU) and on the Functioning of the EU which provides the legal basis for the ECB and the ESCB.

the rest of the article is at:

http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/economic_and_monetary_affairs/institutional_and_economic_framework/o10001_en.htm

[oooooob]

14. 20th century political economy: A breif history of global capitalism

http://www.earth.columbia.edu/sitefiles/file/about/director/pubs/Oxfordreview_winter99.pdf