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Jeter Walks Off In Yankee Stadium Finale (Original Post) iandhr Sep 2014 OP
amazing Doctor_J Sep 2014 #1
Amazing how that all came together BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #2
In many ways Jeter's storybook career began with a long fly ball against the Orioles alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #9
Showalter was in the dugout, too BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #12
Showalter was fired the year before alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #13
Showalter was the guy who turned the Yankees around. Here is a great article about him. StevieM Sep 2014 #16
I think he did the same w/ the DBacks JonLP24 Sep 2014 #71
I was at that game Renew Deal Sep 2014 #32
That one still hurts. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #55
I was there. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #64
Will be missed. Exceptional everything! yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #3
What an ending ornotna Sep 2014 #4
Hollywood Could Not Have Written a Better Ending! RadicalGeek Sep 2014 #5
Nail biter finish to a good career. Historic NY Sep 2014 #6
Well, since it was a completely meaningless game from the Yankees' point of view, Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #14
Says he's not playing SS in Boston for the final 3 games. CANDO Sep 2014 #49
big deal RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #7
None of them were shortstops BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #8
None of them were multi-millionares either RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #17
He's a good guy, and he voted for Obama BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #19
What's silly is RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #20
Gene Michael was the SS when I was a kid BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #21
Me too, but RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #26
One ring? BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #28
That, at best, is a 'heads up play'... CanSocDem Sep 2014 #39
Actually, it's called winning BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #40
Were you inclined to rain on THEIR parade as well? Trajan Sep 2014 #53
Jeter has sabbat hunter Sep 2014 #67
Jeter has 5 World Series rings, I thought everyone knew that Reter Sep 2014 #68
No, but Rizzuto could bunt to get on base or sac in a run. RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #70
yeah because sabbat hunter Sep 2014 #29
You're not going to convince people who are just intent on hating Jeter alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #52
Any MVPs? n/t RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #62
You know, there's a chant the Bleacher Creatures have for you. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #65
I WAS a Bleacher Creature back in the 70s! RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #69
he won sabbat hunter Sep 2014 #66
Oh fer fucks sake alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #10
You kids get off my diamond... IDemo Sep 2014 #11
I use to walk to school in blizzards everyday, even in the summer when I was a kid!! Javaman Sep 2014 #22
what the heck RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #23
I love when people, such as yourself, do that. Javaman Sep 2014 #27
What are you smoking? CANDO Sep 2014 #51
It IS a big deal. Jeter isn't responsible for the kids on your lawn. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #57
Keith Olbermann speaks for me on Derek Jeter. Unknown Beatle Sep 2014 #15
Thanks for that RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #18
Classic! Thanks for posting. n/t FSogol Sep 2014 #31
Loved it! LiberalFighter Sep 2014 #43
Ouch! That's gonna hurt some folk's pride. nt adirondacker Sep 2014 #46
Agreed! And he should have retired two years ago. Fearless Sep 2014 #54
Fuck KO on this. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #58
meh... Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #24
Because the Yankees are the greatest team in all of sports Renew Deal Sep 2014 #35
They don't even play real baseball, with that rec-league DH silliness Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #60
Just a bitter Mets fan I see. bigwillq Sep 2014 #50
Derek Jeter is a first ballot Hall of Famer, and the haters and grumblers are second rate nobodies alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #25
Wonder what his legend would be if he played in Kansas City rurallib Sep 2014 #30
LOL: "May the Yankees do well in the playoffs" FSogol Sep 2014 #33
and about 15 more games on the schedule rurallib Sep 2014 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author FSogol Sep 2014 #37
It's too late. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #56
I was quoting another poster. Did Jeter ascend into Heaven to sit at the right hand of God yet? FSogol Sep 2014 #59
I think that happens after the season ends. RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #63
The Yankees won 4 World Series in 5 years Renew Deal Sep 2014 #36
So? Despite having the highest payroll, they've only won 1 World Series in the last 10 years. FSogol Sep 2014 #38
That's what they said in the 80's Renew Deal Sep 2014 #45
When was the last time the Yankees won WS? n/t RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #61
Agree with this. KatyMan Sep 2014 #41
Gee, I don't know...does anybody know who George Brett is? BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #42
Hey, Ted Williams homered in his last at-bat. malthaussen Sep 2014 #44
Who's Derek Jeter? progressoid Sep 2014 #47
An amazing moment. An amazing night. bigwillq Sep 2014 #48

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
2. Amazing how that all came together
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:09 PM
Sep 2014

Robertson gives up two homers and a three-run lead in the top of the 9th. Jeter due up third in the bottom of the 9th. Hit, sacrifice, game winner.

It was perfect.

I tell you what, when he graciously wished the Orioles luck in the playoffs in front of 50K people, you were reminded just how special he is. I bet that blew them away.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
9. In many ways Jeter's storybook career began with a long fly ball against the Orioles
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:09 AM
Sep 2014

The Orioles were really supposed to win the Series that year.

The Yankees won, and the rest is history.

An Orioles World Series win this year would be a remarkable bookend, and I think Jeter knows it.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
12. Showalter was in the dugout, too
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:15 AM
Sep 2014

His first manager. A lifer who has never really sniffed a ring. Of course, if the Yankees hadn't canned him, he and Jeter would have probably won a few.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
13. Showalter was fired the year before
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:34 AM
Sep 2014

I don't know if he was in the dugout, but the Yankees (under Joe Torre) won the World Series that year against the Atlanta Braves.

On edit: Oh, I guess you mean in the dugout tonight. Sorry!

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
71. I think he did the same w/ the DBacks
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 11:56 PM
Sep 2014

Built them up from an expansion team and they won the series the year after they fired him.

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
32. I was at that game
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:20 AM
Sep 2014

I was sitting in the upper deck way above home plate. I think everyone knew what happened except the umps.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,166 posts)
55. That one still hurts.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:42 PM
Sep 2014

I'm hoping this is finally the year.

Jeter himself I've got nothing against...future first ballot hall of famer, and by all accounts a decent enough person.

His team (and its fans) on the other hand.....

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
14. Well, since it was a completely meaningless game from the Yankees' point of view,
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:10 AM
Sep 2014

as they had already been eliminated from playoff contention, it wasn't that much of a "nail-biter".

 

CANDO

(2,068 posts)
49. Says he's not playing SS in Boston for the final 3 games.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:13 PM
Sep 2014

Don't know if he plans on DHing. Boston fans may be a little miffed at him if he never takes the field.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
7. big deal
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:37 PM
Sep 2014

He was not as good as many of the Yankees I saw at the ORIGINAL House that Ruth Built!
And seats were seventy-five cents for the longest time, then with the renovation, became a buck and a half.
I will be damned if I will ever go to a ballgame and pay forty bucks for bleacher seats!

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
17. None of them were multi-millionares either
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 06:57 AM
Sep 2014

I haven't seen Jeter at an environmental, anti-war, civil rights, or other rally, march or demonstration.
Please refresh me as to why I should think of him as a hero, when he has done nothing in his commercial career to show me.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
19. He's a good guy, and he voted for Obama
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:19 AM
Sep 2014
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/derek-jeter-talks-obama-future-plans-steinbrenner-sons-article-1.1947766

There are stories about him staying close to fans who have reached out to him, like Brielle Saracini, whose father was the pilot on UA 175 on 9/11. You have him on the hook for society's ills and everything down to high-ticket pricess...it's silly.
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
26. Me too, but
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:32 AM
Sep 2014

then there was Phil Rizzuto, Bucky Dent, and Tony Kubek during my lifetime. They were better shortstops than Jeter.
My parents told me of Frank Crosetti, who was in 7 World Series winning teams, and while coach with the Yankees, amassed another TEN!
Jeter only has one World Series ring. Not the mark of someone to be idolized as a shortstop afaic.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
28. One ring?
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:44 AM
Sep 2014

And you call yourself a Yankee fan?

Re. the rest, you'd have the beginnings of a slender point if all you're talking about is fielding. And none of those guys ever made a play like this:




 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
39. That, at best, is a 'heads up play'...
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:40 AM
Sep 2014


...not, like some non-athletes characterize it as the second coming of Jesus himself.

Hero-worshipping a single player on a baseball team is the first indication that a misunderstanding of the game is taking place. A team sport requires ALL the players to contribute small, but heroic efforts to achieve the win.



.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
40. Actually, it's called winning
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:49 AM
Sep 2014

You're sniffing the truth about what made Jeter great in the second part of your response. It was a fundamentally sound play made under pressure that a lot of players never make. Without it, the Yankees may very well have been out in the first round and not made the Series that year.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
53. Were you inclined to rain on THEIR parade as well?
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:53 PM
Sep 2014

Some people ... wet blankets, through and through ...

I hope you go around New York, telling little kids how Jeter is just crappy ball player ...

Really though, I did know a few older DUers who are WAY better than some newer ones ... not naming any names ...

sabbat hunter

(6,828 posts)
67. Jeter has
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 12:25 AM
Sep 2014

5 WS rings. And Bucky Dent a better SS? What the hell are you smoking cause I want some of that.
And Tony Kubek??! A lifetime .265 hitter with a grand total of 373 RBI and 60HRs for his entire career.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
70. No, but Rizzuto could bunt to get on base or sac in a run.
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 02:02 PM
Sep 2014

Rizzuto was the ace of the bunt. He was coaching for many years when it came to bunting for the Yankees.

sabbat hunter

(6,828 posts)
29. yeah because
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:45 AM
Sep 2014

a SS with 5 gold gloves, 5 silver slugger awards, 6th all time in hits. Most hits, Games played, runs scored by any yankee ever, is just a mediocre shortstop.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
52. You're not going to convince people who are just intent on hating Jeter
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:22 PM
Sep 2014

They have their little opinion, and are impervious to anything but their own pettiness.

I'm a Mets fan all my life, too. But the pettiness displayed by the Jeter haters is truly the sign of a poor character making itself visible.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
69. I WAS a Bleacher Creature back in the 70s!
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 02:01 PM
Sep 2014

I am just not enthused about the state of professional sports these days.
It wasn't always about the money.
Jeter may be a good person, but what about all the community things that people like Roy Campanella did, and he was paralyzed from the waist down! Sorry, I don't see much of that today in the sports world.
And people in professional sports make too much money today. They are, in fact part of the 1%, who we are all trying to overcome.
When the baseball players went on strike because they were not making enough money back in the 90s (I think) and they raised ticket prices up more than 25 fold, I decided that it was not more than a distraction for us. A distraction designed to make us ignore the REAL issues of the day.

sabbat hunter

(6,828 posts)
66. he won
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 12:22 AM
Sep 2014

the World Series MVP and was robbed at least once of the AL MVP in 2006, when he came in second. and he came in third twice.

Javaman

(62,510 posts)
22. I use to walk to school in blizzards everyday, even in the summer when I was a kid!!
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:15 AM
Sep 2014

It was also up hill both ways and I had to do that while pulling a boulder behind me and wild dogs chewed at my legs!!!

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
23. what the heck
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:24 AM
Sep 2014

is a bolder? You are using it as a noun, when it is an adjective, so it makes it difficult to understand.

Javaman

(62,510 posts)
27. I love when people, such as yourself, do that.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:42 AM
Sep 2014

you are so funny. you know how spell check works.

fixed, feel better now?

Cheers!

 

CANDO

(2,068 posts)
51. What are you smoking?
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:16 PM
Sep 2014

The guy is 6th all time hits leader. He's going to be probably a unanimous first ballot HOF'er.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
57. It IS a big deal. Jeter isn't responsible for the kids on your lawn.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:54 PM
Sep 2014

Nor is he responsible for Yankee Stadium.

And downthread you suddenly require him to be, in addition to one of the all-time great baseball players, a civil rights leader.

To which I say, what exactly was Malcolm X's career OPS? Also, since you seem so enamored with Ruth, can you remind me of his
accomplishments in the civil rights and social justice arena?

Jeter is a first-ballot HOFer with no doubt, because in addition to his stats, he brought intangibles. For someone proud to
invoke Ruth, you should have some appreciate for a player bringing a larger-that-life aura to the game.

He was a decent-hitting shortstop, at best a mediocre fielder, but he was also (a) clutch, (b) absolutely consistent, and (c) he had one of the highest-ever baseball IQs.

Is it a crime that a better producer and more versatile player (Biggio) gets less play, and will take longer to enter the HOF? Yes. That'd life.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
15. Keith Olbermann speaks for me on Derek Jeter.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 02:13 AM
Sep 2014
Derek Jeter Isn't The Greatest Player Ever


Jeter's Overhyped Farewell Part Two


 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
18. Thanks for that
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:14 AM
Sep 2014

Very telling about what baseball has become over the last 20 or so years. It's not a sport of the people any more. It's a sport of millionaires now. As long as a team can make money on a mediocre player, they will.

LiberalFighter

(50,855 posts)
43. Loved it!
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:28 AM
Sep 2014

Not a baseball fan but like it when it is put into perspective as KO did. Too many people make stuff something great when it is not.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
25. Derek Jeter is a first ballot Hall of Famer, and the haters and grumblers are second rate nobodies
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:31 AM
Sep 2014

It drives them crazy, but that's how it is.

Of course, I'm sure the whole world is wrong and the haters are right...

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
30. Wonder what his legend would be if he played in Kansas City
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:13 AM
Sep 2014

or Denver or Seattle? The Yankees are so over hyped by media while teams in smaller markets can't even get a mention.
One of the big reasons I pretty much quit watching baseball. How many times this season were the Yankees or Red Sox the game of the week on ESPN or Fox when neither were really in the race?

Just wanted to throw in my two cents. May the Yankees do well in the playoffs.

FSogol

(45,470 posts)
33. LOL: "May the Yankees do well in the playoffs"
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:21 AM
Sep 2014

Not going to be any Yankees in the playoffs since that would require epic collapses by KC, Oakland, Seattle, and Cleveland.

Response to rurallib (Reply #34)

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,166 posts)
56. It's too late.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:43 PM
Sep 2014

O's eliminated them the day before.

The Jeter game is the postseason for Yankee fans this year.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
63. I think that happens after the season ends.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 05:43 PM
Sep 2014

I am sure that his devotees will attend to see his ascension.

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
36. The Yankees won 4 World Series in 5 years
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:27 AM
Sep 2014

And 3 in a row. Winning that much gets attention. Just look at the Bulls or Lakers

FSogol

(45,470 posts)
38. So? Despite having the highest payroll, they've only won 1 World Series in the last 10 years.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:34 AM
Sep 2014

Yankee greatness is a thing of the past.

KatyMan

(4,189 posts)
41. Agree with this.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:49 AM
Sep 2014

The Astros had the number one draft pick the year Jeter was in it, and chose Phil Nevin. Even if he played exactly the same for the Astros for the past 20+ seasons, he wouldn't be doing this victory lap. Look at Craig Biggio...
And I agree also on the Yankees/Red Sox on ESPN etc. I'm not a hater of either team, but jeez, there ARE other teams in the league. Better ones too.
two more cents thrown in.

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
44. Hey, Ted Williams homered in his last at-bat.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:39 AM
Sep 2014

Not that anyone thinks Jeter compares to Williams... I hope.

John Updyke wrote a piece in the New Yorker about it: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/articles/hub_fans_bid_kid_adieu_article.shtml

-- Mal

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