Official: Ferguson, Missouri, police officer shot

[LovingA2andMI]

Source: CNN

A Ferguson, Missouri, police officer was shot Saturday evening, according to St. Louis County Police spokesman Brian Schellman.
The officer is alive.

Demonstrators have taken to the streets of Ferguson since unarmed African-American teen Michael Brown was shot by a white Ferguson police officer in early August.

Tensions reignited in the Missouri town on Thursday night after a late-night appearance by Police Chief Thomas Jackson to address the crowd. A scuffle ensued, and arrests were made.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/27/us/ferguson-police-officer-shot/

[arcane1]

1. What a poorly written story. He was shot where? Why?

Two short sentences about the officer, then two general outlines of the past few weeks of protests. Are they connected? Don't ask CNN.

[cstanleytech]

2. Here

http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Authorities-Shots-fired-at-Ferguson-police-officer-277346131.html

[starroute]

5. That doesn't add much -- except that he was shot on a side street

It doesn't tell you whether there was an incident, a confrontation, or a concealed sniper. No clue at all as to what actually happened.

But it does say that they've brought in helicopters, dogs, and the police departments from every surrounding municipality to chase after the suspect. And that there's a tense but peaceful crowd.

[7962]

11. It was a female officer who was shot. More here:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ferguson-officer-shot-details-still-emerging/article_21e165ad-1f7f-5ae8-b30a-fb9d9dc40afe.html

[muriel_volestrangler]

32. It was a male officer who was shot. From your link:

A Ferguson police officer was shot Saturday night. The officer, a man, survived the shooting, authorities said.
...
Editor's note: This story has been updated to correct information provided about the gender of the officer who was shot. It was a male officer.

[7962]

41. How the hell can they make THAT mistake?? Edit must've been after I read it!

[MADem]

54. It gets worse--there was only 1 guy, not 2...and the cop's body camera was turned OFF.

See post 53 downthread for a link.

[billhicks76]

29. Probably Friendly Fire

That way FOX can defend it.

[LovingA2andMI]

8. Agreed!

Welcome to CNN's version of "Breaking News". A poor effort to make four paragraphs. Either way, was trying to share information.

[arcane1]

9. Yeah I did go off on a rant there, but I appreciate the post nonetheless :)

[LovingA2andMI]

14. No problem!

[TorchTheWitch]

17. shot in the arm and not life threatening

Better article at Yahoo... just saw it.

http://news.yahoo.com/officer-shot-strife-hit-u-city-ferguson-police-032021738.html

FERGUSON Mo. (Reuters) - A police officer from the strife-hit Missouri city of Ferguson was shot on Saturday and the suspect was still at large, law enforcement officials said.

The officer's injuries were not life threatening, the Missouri Department of Public Safety said. St Louis broadcaster KSDK said the officer was shot in the arm.

"A search is under way for the suspect in the shooting of the officer," the Department of Public Safety said, adding the shooting took place at a community center slightly removed from main protest areas.

It was unclear whether the shooting took place in Ferguson or a neighboring community. Police have set up roadblocks in the area.

[Sherman A1]

28. Here is the article from The St. Louis Post Dispatach

More at the link.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ferguson-police-officer-shot-suspect-remains-at-large/article_e8505152-ddee-5d3f-ad1f-41468cff45ce.html

A Ferguson police officer was shot Saturday night. The officer, a man, survived the shooting, authorities said.
The shooting occurred in the 1000 block of Smith Avenue in Ferguson, near the new Ferguson Community Center.

Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said Saturday night that the officer was on routine patrol and spotted two suspects trying to break into a business. He said the business was in Ferguson.

When the officer confronted the suspects, Jackson said, one of them pulled a gun and fired at the officer. The officer was struck once in the arm, and was expected to be okay.

[arcane1]

51. Thanks! When I signed off last night the cop was still female.

[Sherman A1]

52. My pleasure

I learned long ago, to wait a bit on news reports of pretty much anything. The first reports are most likely inaccurate.

[bravenak]

3. Lets wait for all the facts to come in.

We have no idea what happened. It may be friendly fire. Or self inflicted. He may have ran up to another officer's SUV and tried to go for his weapon. We just don't know. Could be anything.

[7962]

12. Female cop ETA: Nope, male cop.

Last edited Sun Sep 28, 2014, 08:41 AM - Edit history (1)

[bravenak]

22. See what I mean?

Last edited Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:06 AM - Edit history (3)

Not enough facts. I'll wait for eye witness statements from citizens on scene. Since Ferguson PD doesn't release incident reports of shootings apparently.
Hopefully everybody will remain calm, wait for a Grand Jury to decide whether to charge a suspect, or find out it was a justified shooting.

The shooter should be suspended with pay awaiting an investigation. And I hope the PD follows it's own precident of not releasing the name of the suspect for a few weeks.

Once the suspect presents their own version of events to a sympathetic grand jury, we will know why they felt so fearful that they had to fire upon a potentially dangerous officer.

[Scootaloo]

26. But only "credible" eyewitnesses, of course n/t

[bravenak]

27. Of course. Good white ones.

Otherwise will have to look through the victims past to find out why she deserved to be shot. Maybe she smoked a joint one time. Or had sex. Or wore thuggy military issued cop gangster gear. She could be a Vice Lord or a Gangster Disciple, or even a Crip or a Rapper I'm leaning in that direction myself.

[ctsnowman]

47. Well played.

[JustAnotherGen]

39. Updated to a male cop n/t

[cstanleytech]

16. Problem is though there are some on this forum who seem to enjoy rushing to judgment. nt

[donco]

20. Ten-4

On that especially if a cop is involved.

[jwirr]

50. Absolutely. So far it may or may not have happened in Ferguson MO, one article says the man was

a woman, the first article said the suspect was setting in his car behind a building the other said they were breaking in, another said shots and one said a shot. The only good things is that the suspect shot him in the arm and did not kill him.

[bravenak]

56. I just wish he had his body camera turned on.

Then we would know what happened. But, alas!! He had turned the camera off.

[jwirr]

58. That is absolutely ironic. Like the stores that have a camera but do not have it on. I guess we need

to place a fine on any policeman who turns off their camera. He knew he was going into action. It had to be turned off deliberately. That alone would raise suspicion for me. A camera has as much a chance of proving you innocent as it does proving you guilty. Unless one plans to do something illegal.

Not say that this is what happened in this case and I am glad no one is dead.

[riverwalker]

4. monitoring live feeds

cop shot in arm, non fatal. Rest is rumors, crowd claims a dead protestors being hidden, going insane. Bad bad scene.

[LovingA2andMI]

6. Thanks for the updates.....

[starroute]

7. Livestream

http://www.livestream.com/activistworldnewsnow

On edit - another livestream here that seems to be showing more of the crowd:
http://bambuser.com/v/4958162

Ant another:
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

[riverwalker]

10. no one killed

that I can tell all I find is the officer shot in bicep, no suspect yet.

[riverwalker]

13. a guy from ACLU is there

pretty cool, telling them what their legal rights are.

[LovingA2andMI]

15. Live Tweets Updates from Deray

Discussing how the Police have found and are cornering the shooter here.

[dballance]

18. Wouldn't be surprised if he got shot by another Ferguson Cop.

You know, "Friendly Fire."

Can't wait to see the real story later.

If it takes days and weeks to come out then you'll know it was one trigger-happy cop who shot another trigger-happy cop.

[bravenak]

25. How stupid.

It is quite disturbing when we have people trying to malign a whole town by calling them "not real protestors' and violent.
Although u may want to rush and defend the police each time an unarmed young black man is shot, don't mean jack. The State of Missouri has already released the statistics and they show racial profiling is rampant in the state including the city of Ferguson.

Now I just read you suggesting that Rev Am Sharpton is at fault in some way, indicating that he is a race baiter. Guess who else said what you said damn near word for word?Sean Hannity. The whole Fox new staff is loving using the same arguments you are using to try to minimize the murder, harassment and abuse of the civil rights of black and other minority groups by cops. Maybe you need to watch a bit so you can see how oblivious you sound.

If you think for one second that we don't have race issues in our law enforcement, I question your reasoning. And it is stupid in the extreme to call another person stupid for not giving cops the benefit of doubt. They rarely give the benefit of doubt to us, so why should we not regard people with thevpowet to kill us legally while we are unarmed and not an actual danger, with suspicion. They can shoot anyone they want and make up an excuse, and there will always be oblivious dupes attacking other taxpaying citizens who question their veracity and general goodness. If they want the benefit of doubt, they need to stop killing us and our children.

[whathehell]

30. It's "quite disturbing" to be shot at, have your store looted, & molotov cocktails thrown at

you too.

The racial profiling in Ferguson is vile and undeniable, and yes, the

"suspicion" you mention is probably justified, but the violent acts

mentioned above really are not.

[bravenak]

31. It is my belief that the profiling, civil rights violations, racism, and killing of blacks by cops

is the cause of the violence. They use violent tactics and are surprised when the victims use it back. The should realize that you reap what you sow. Breed hostility in one particular group for decades and they will eventually respond in kind.

BTW, the shooting had nothing to do with the protests.

I saw those cops with tanks, holding rifles on the peaceful protestors, arresting journalists, gassing children, they caused this to blow up on purpose. Hence the Chiefs fake apology. Cops are fucking up with the way they police.

So, I can agree that violence is extreme, but I see that they are violent themselves. Teargasing peaceful protestors proves that. If they want to not have things thrown at them, they should try not throwing flash bangs, spraying tear gas and pepperspray at peaceful people, or shooting rubberbullets at crowds. Because eventually the respect for authority will be replaced by opposition to authority.

I haven't heard any black people there with good cop stories. Why? Because they have bad cops who shouldn't have the authority over any of them. This shit is all the Fault of the Ferguson PD. They need to own that shit. There were no protests until that cop shot an unarmed kid six times. And gave a most ridiculous explanation. The black kid tried to get into A COP CAR and steal a COPS GUN. I fault the chief for even pretending to believe this bullshit.

Jesus Christ this is some bullshit.

[RKP5637]

33. For many cops this is sport, a hunting sport and the citizens are game to be hunted down as

cops play with their shinny new toys. Often the police provoke the citizens into the reacting and the media often plays along with reactionary reporting to stoke their profits. Give it a few more years, more surveillance, more toys and this will seem the better times.

We are moving from governing by choice to governing by force as the country continues being corrupted with greed, bribes, extraordinary political funding and enforcement violence. One just has to even casually watch the violence by police in Ferguson, for example, and it is quite clear what is going on.

[bravenak]

34. I agree with everything you just said.

It's an evil game they play. They think it will continue forever. People like that always underestimate the little guy. Eventually they will stop focusing their violence on certain groups and will start spreading the pain all around. I believe that a million separate lawsuits need to be filed against any department abusing the rights of the citizens they serve. They should be sued until they can no longer afford their toys or their bad apples. I see cops as organized crime units.

[MADem]

36. The police raise revenue for the town by targeting people of color.

They ticket them, they start the court proceedings early and then charge them again for "not showing up," and when they can't afford to pay, they fine them again, etc.

It's documented and obvious. I'm amazed the place hasn't blown up long before this. The community is predominantly POC but the PD and the leadership are nearly all white. There is definitely a power imbalance in that community. I hope that will change soon.

[bravenak]

37. I hope they see that things like this can no longer be ignored.

If there are any good cops left, it is their duty to turn in the bad cops on all of their violations. If the cover things up, they are guilty as I would be if I covered up a crime. They should be held to a higher standard than the general population.

I hope the officials in Ferguson are preparing themslves for a New Day. Voters are being registered, the Feds are investigating them, and we are watching.

I am tired of trigger happy fools with a license to kill, and I am disgusted by the lack of empathy shown by them and their supporters.

Those bracelets they were wearing showed that they have learned exactly nothing. How would they feel if we all started wearing 'I am Christopher Dorner' bracelets? We will have many more Dorner's in a short amount of time if they don't get it together and start serving th public instead of serving themselves.

[MADem]

53. Remember those cameras that the FPD got with such fanfare?

Well, this guy's camera was TURNED OFF...

Local police continued their search Sunday for a suspect who wounded a Ferguson police officer Saturday night. Authorities said Sunday that the incident involved just one suspect, rather than the two they had reported the night before.
Police also confirmed that the wounded officer had a body camera, but that it was turned off during the incident.

The wounded officer was released Sunday from Barnes-Jewish Hospital. He had been shot once in the left arm.

St. Louis County Police Sgt. Brian Schellman, a police spokesman, said he did not know why the officer’s camera was off.

Ferguson police officers began wearing body cameras on Aug. 31, three weeks after a white police officer, Darren Wilson, fatally shot Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager....

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/wounded-ferguson-officer-s-body-camera-was-off/article_e20a6d4d-9592-54dd-b2b3-027e25a8db66.html

[bravenak]

55. I'm still thinking self inflicted.

The Ferguson PD continues to strive for excellence!!!

I figured they just were wearing the cameras for show.

[MADem]

57. The one thing the guy needed to do--make sure the camera was on...

and he couldn't manage it.

And sudddenly "two" thieves become just one.

Yeah, I think something is Not Quite Right here...

[LovingA2andMI]

40. It takes some work....

Last edited Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:44 AM - Edit history (1)

For me to be seriously disturbed by a post reply, however, this ugly bean footage takes the cake. WOW, pretty disgusting for all the baiting and halo effect contained in this reply. That is all I'll say about this.

[Feral Child]

43. Police apologist.

Nobody's buying it.

[Cha]

19. I hope the "female officer" heals well and they catch who did it.

Mahalo, LovingA~

[greyl]

21. Some people recording video with their cameras are looking for a confrontation

is the main impression I get from watching the following livestreams for about 90 mins:

http://www.livestream.com/activistworldnewsnow
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930
http://bambuser.com/v/4958162

I didn't see evidence of thoughtful protesting from those 3 sources during that short time.

Edit Sept 29, turns out I was right.

[951-Riverside]

23. *COUGH* Another Jeffrey Stenroos? *COUGH*

[IMG][/IMG]

Jeffrey Stenroos, the former Los Angeles school police officer who staged his own shooting last year in a bizarre hoax that caused three schools to be locked down and forced closure of streets across the the western San Fernando Valley, will pay the city a lump sum of $309,000 in restitution, authorities said Monday.

In exchange for the restitution, Judge Richard Kirschner agreed to let Stenroos post bail from Los Angeles County jail pending the outcome of an appeal.

The lion's share of the payment was to compensate the city of Los Angeles for deploying more than 500 officers, plus traffic management workers. The restitution also will be discussed at a court hearing next month.

"It's highly unusual to receive such a large amount in a lump sum but we welcome receiving the money," said William Carter, chief deputy to City Atty. Carmen Trutanich. He said the money, raised by Stenroos' friends and family, is expected to be received by the city Wednesday.

Stenroos, 31, was convicted in September of planting false evidence, insurance fraud and other crimes. The sentence came after Stenroos underwent a 90-day psychological evaluation to assess whether he should go to prison or receive probation.

In December, Stenroos was sentenced to five years in county jail but Kirschner said he would have to serve only two years if he met the terms of his probation, which included completing 400 hours of community service.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/03/jeffrey-stenroos-hoax-restitution.html

but wait there's more...

A Chalfont Police officer was in custody Tuesday night after police say he lied about a shooting at a swim club in Bucks County the morning before.

"He put an awful lot of people to an awful lot -- ultimately the taxpayers -- to an awful lot of offense," said Bucks County District Attorney David Heckler.

Officer Jon Cousin told police he pulled over a vehicle that "looked suspicious" in the parking lot of the Lenape Valley Swim Club on Monday around 3:15 a.m.

Cousin told police there were two men and one woman inside the car. He then claimed the driver of the vehicle jumped out and rushed toward him while a passenger also got out and fired a shot at him.

Cousin, a three-year veteran of the force, told police radio that he was "hit in the chest, I think my vest stopped it, get a medic here," according to a probable cause affidavit obtained by NBC10.

Police began to search for the alleged suspects as well as the alleged getaway vehicle -- a maroon Cutlass. It turns out however that those suspects and that car were allegedly made up.

"We're here tonight to inform you the shooting was a hoax," said Heckler at a press conference Tuesday night.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/breaking/Chalfont-Police-Officer-Lied-About-Shooting-Cops--167772835.html

...This is what happens when you hire a bunch of mentally ill psychopaths then give a badge, a gun and full immunity.

[Feral Child]

42. Distinct possibility, Riverside.

Being involved in a shooting incident is a fast-track to promotion.

[blkmusclmachine]

35. Meh.

[marble falls]

38. Suspicious. Something doesn't seem right. A superficial wound on the arm?

[ncjustice80]

44. Hoax shooting officer in Ferguson shot himself.

You heard it here first!

[marble falls]

45. BINGO! I give 5 to 1 odds.

[logosoco]

46. Several things about just the information provided is making me ask questions.

Wouldn't the police force have two officers patrolling on a Saturday night, especially considering what has been going on in the community?
How often do police actually catch a robbery/burglary in progress?
WHY DIDN'T THE POLICE HAVE A CAMERA? Wasn't it reported that the force did have them but just did not have them hooked up? Wouldn't they learn from the Brown shooting that the cameras protect the officers as well?
There is one report that says the suspects fled to a wooded area. There are not a lot of wooded areas near here. I am not much of a robber, but I wouldn't run into a wooded area in a suburban town after having a shoot out with the police.

Maybe I have just learned to question all things. There may be a lot of folks waking up in St. Louis thinking "OH, another bunch of thugs" but I can't seem to get past these questions.

If I saw this in a movie, I wouldn't believe it.

[packman]

48. IMHO - It's a wonder it has taken this long

for a officer to be fired on - if that is the case. The citizens of Furguson have shown remarkable restraint and are to be praised for that.

[LovingA2andMI]

49. Agreed! And "graze wound to the arm" happens on the heels of...

The Ferguson P.D. Public Relations improvement campaign, MIGHT -- not sure -- but MIGHT raise a eyebrow or two....

"The city of Ferguson has retained the public relations firm Common Ground Public Relations to help its communications department in light of the ongoing turmoil in the St. Louis, Mo., suburb and the firm appears to be staffed entirely by white people, according to the photographs of staff members on its website.

Common Ground is "assisting the city of Ferguson's media relations department with the large volume of media queries," Common Ground's Nina Kult told TPM. "We're just assisting in handling the large volume of queries."

The "Meet The Team" page on Common Ground's website seemed to only display Caucasian employees. When asked how the apparent lack of diversity on their team might factor into Common Ground's work for Ferguson, given the heightened racial tensions there over the death of 18-year old Michael Brown, Kult declined to comment directly on that aspect of their work.

"We're just handling media relations as of very recently and that's really all we're doing. We're just handling media queries and that's all I can really say right now," Kult said."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/city-of-ferguson-public-relations-common-ground