Rand Paul: Young Voters Won't Support An "Authoritarian" Like Hillary

[DonViejo]

Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) — Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is working to improve the Republican Party's image among young voters as he visits South Carolina, a key state in the presidential primary calendar.

The tea party favorite, who hopes to strengthen his national network ahead of a likely White House bid, was set to appear at the University of South Carolina and at the College of Charleston on Tuesday before addressing the Horry County GOP.

Paul says the Republican Party has a big opportunity to attract more young voters — a group that fueled President Barack Obama's success and could prove critical to Hillary Rodham Clinton should she seek the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016. Polls suggest Obama's standing with younger voters has slipped significantly in recent months.

"Young people aren't so wedded to party," Paul, 51, said in an interview with The Associated Press. "The kids are probably adrift somewhat. And I don't think someone who is an authoritarian, or comes from a much more authoritarian point of view like Hillary Clinton, will attract them."

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[geek tragedy]

1. so today he's faux-libertarian rightwing fucknut Rand Paul as opposed to tomorrow when he'll be

standard rightwing fucknut Rand Paul.

his idea of 'authoritarian' is someone who will tax and regulate corporations

[Blue_Tires]

46. Well, given Paul's comments in past weeks

at least he's dropped any pretense of being the "peace" candidate...

Like his old man, I'm guessing he thinks the "legalized reefer" platform will draw votes from kids too stoned to research his other stances...

[freshwest]

57. LOL, he thinks he can get away with anything.

[NorthCarolina]

2. As much as I dislike that guy, I have to agree with him on this. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

3. He is against marriage equality, opposed to a woman's right to reproductive choices and yet you

think he is not an 'authoritarian'? Instead you think he's good at spotting them? Hilarious.

[beerandjesus]

8. I think you missed the point.

[NorthCarolina]

9. You can believe that the young will embrace Hillary all you want,

but I think you are only fooling yourself. So by all means, laugh away!

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. count me in on the peels of laughter

[baldguy]

47. Sez the poster who agrees with Rand Paul.

Can you say

[bobclark86]

19. (Almost) trying on deficit, a Heritage Foundation health care plan...

Yeah. He's a Rockefeller Republican, like it or not.

[PatrynXX]

10. yep. Hillary is part of the problem :(

she's Conservative and I won't vote for the Conservative party

[NorthCarolina]

13. In 2012, Obama stated that "he'd be seen as moderate Republican in 1980s".

Hillary is clearly to the right of Obama, or at the very least certainly NOT to his left by any means. Well truth of the matter is, I didn't vote for Republican's in the 80's, so why in the hell would I start to do so now? The Democratic party had best put their neo-liberals aside and start fielding viable progressive candidates or they will lose my vote forever.

[wyldwolf]

26. That's a misrepresentation.

Last edited Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:40 PM - Edit history (1)

It was clear to everyone that the President was referring to how far right the Republicans have gone AND he was referring to specific and stated policies.

"The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican," he told Noticias Univision 23 in a White House interview.

"I mean, what I believe in is a tax system that is fair," he continued. "I don't think government can solve every problem. I think that we should make sure that we're helping young people go to school. We should make sure that our government is building good roads and bridges and hospitals and airports so that we have a good infrastructure."


Fair tax system. Government isn't the answer to everything. Helping kids get in school. Infrastructure. Yeah, I believe in those too. Today's GOP doesn't. So I, too, would have those in common with the 1980s Republicans.

[candelista]

42. What misrepresentation?

I don't see any at all.

[still_one]

54. Bullshit. You obviously look at only what you want to in her record

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Hillary_Clinton.htm

[still_one]

53. Sorry, if Hillary is the nominee, the young demographic will vote for her, and that includes women,

young and old.

[Blue Owl]

4. Wouldn't you rather support a "Plaigaritarian" like Rand Paul?

n/t

[rtracey]

5. Young voters

Young voters are going to support someone that will help them find jobs, save money, buy the car, the house, raise a family. They will NOT support someone cutting funding to allow them to do these things. The right wing may successfully take the Senate in 2014, but with new younger voters coming of age, and the rights older established voters beginning to die or drop out or going on medicare, so the GOP will be a thing of the past.

[canuckledragger]

6. They won't support...

...a lying, grifting, plagiarizing mooch like Rand Paul either. Even his 'board certification' is false when said 'board' was made up of himself and his relatives...

[Ash_F]

7. Foriegn intervention and privacy violations are extremely unpopular with young voters

Who will be their candidate?

[OilemFirchen]

15. But, but, Eddie!

Rand Paul Suggests Snowden And Clapper Share A Prison Cell

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) on Sunday suggested that former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper should share a prison cell in the U.S.

"Maybe if they served in a prison cell together, we'd become further enlightened as a country over what we should and shouldn't do," he said on ABC's "This Week."

Paul said that he does not believe Snowden deserves harsh punishment for his leaks, but believes that both Snowden and Clapper broke the law.

"So James Clapper did break a law and there is a prison sentence for that. So did Edward Snowden," he said. "I don't think Edward Snowden deserves the death penalty or life in prison. I think that's inappropriate. And I think that's why he fled, because that's what he faced."

[Ash_F]

16. Yes, Rand Paul is a hypocrite. Like most Republicans.

What else is new?

[OilemFirchen]

21. What else is new?

The notion that, two years hence, young voters will prefer a Looneytarian with a history of "Authoritarianism" himself.

BTW, in two years virtually everybody will support legalizing pot, so don't bother going there.

[Ash_F]

25. Somehow, I bet Hillary won't /nt

[VanillaRhapsody]

28. and youd be wrong..

[OilemFirchen]

44. In six years nineteen states legalized gay marriage.

Eleven of which did so in the last two years. It's a short hop now to federalization.

Twenty-three states, plus DC, have legalized medical marijuana, Two states have legalized marijuana entirely, Eighteen states have decriminalized it. Within the next two years more than a dozen states are likely to join Colorado and Washington. Clearly there is momentum and, as with gay marriage, it's exponential. You and the interlocutor above may be correct, but I doubt it.

We'll see!

[OilemFirchen]

18. But, but, ISIS!

War against ISIS: What does Rand Paul's 'yes' mean?

In an interview Monday on Fox News, Paul was asked: "If a vote were to come to Congress to ask you to go to war against ISIS -- and to call it that -- would you vote yes?"

"Yes," he responded, though he added that he'd try to sunset the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force, a measure that the Obama administration is using as the legal basis for airstrikes against ISIS.

...

"I do favor doing something about ISIS. I would vote yes," he continued.

While Paul gave a general "yes" to the broad question of going to war with ISIS, his position appears to be much more nuanced. And it's possible he could be voting "no" to a key element of the President's ISIS plan in the near future.

My bold. "Nuanced" = "My convictions change based on the political winds."

[cosmicone]

11. Hillary remains unpopular in the tea party and on DU n/t

[VanillaRhapsody]

29. funny that huh

Isnt it ironic

[cosmicone]

34. Yep

Some chase unelectable pipe-dreams like Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz because they take extreme positions we want yet vastly unpopular with independents.

Now I'll hear from my DU friends how Bernie Sanders will be totally irresistible to the independents and even repukes.

[VanillaRhapsody]

40. they are idealists not realists

They are in denial of the truth on the ground

[baldguy]

48. Correct. Can't get liberal/progressive policies enacted if there's no support in Congress.

Obama has been the most liberal/progressive President we've had in a generation, and Bill Clinton is a close second. Wouldn't know it by looking at the "Democrats" on DemocraticUnderground, though.

[VanillaRhapsody]

64. nope....they are too idealistic to realize that

Some progress is better than none......they are letting the good be the eneny of the perfect....

[still_one]

55. strange bedfellows

[blackspade]

12. Rand Paul: Young Voters Won't Support An "Authoritarian" Like Hillary

Says the authoritarian......

His comment is so rich with hypocrisy i'll reserve further comment.

[VanillaRhapsody]

30. if that aint the pot meets kettle

I dont know what is

[Robbins]

14. Young voters

Won't like eather choice.Republicans or Hillary.

The Hillary supporters are bound to come and say she is so liberal I disagree with that.I am 40 year old disabled liberal who lives on
SSI,Food Stamps,Medicaid and housing and engery assitance and cast my first vote for Bill Clinton In 1992,and i know her quite well.

I voted for Obama twice and he has disappointed me on things like the iraq and Syria war.The neocon are winning and getting what
we voted for him to stop.He has totaly forgotten he beat Hillary and Mccain because of Iraq.

Plus people like me will have their benefits cut to pay for this war especilly if republicans take the senate as polls suggest would
happen if election was today.

Think I am being paranoid? Bill Clinton sold out singel mothers with wellfare reform and the legacy of FDR with repeal of glass seagal.
He signed a 8 billion cut In food stamps earlier this year.Both the clintons and Obama have sold out the labor unions who work to elect
Democrats with free trade deals and may do it again with Keystone pipeline.Blacks are being sold out by democrats they help elect
by turning a blind eye to police officers executing black young men.The michael Brown shooting here In Missouri Is poster child for
Dems betreying their base.Do you think Republicans would do that to wall strret,relgious extremists,and tea party? If republicans take senate they will listen to their base and impeach Obama.Bill Clinton actullyd efended corporations moving overseas to avoid paying taxes.

[Ash_F]

17. Young voters also don't know Hillary

It is going to be interesting once her positions start getting press.

[SpankMe]

20. Nothing is more authoritarian than a typical Republican officeholder

These guys (Repubs) govern somewhat like Putin does.

I have my criticisms of Hillary for being too far to the right on many issues. But if she ends up being the nominee, she'll get my vote and some cash. I know people who've met her in person, and it's a sure thing she'll start drifting left after she wins.

[blkmusclmachine]

22. Takes one to know one. And, hey, Paul, when you're pointing an accusative finger at somebody else,

you've got 3 fingers pointing right back at YOU.

[HockeyMom]

23. Sometimes you don't know what you've got,

until it's gone. I think America runs in cycles needing to go to the opposite extreme in order to learn it's lesson. I am old enough to have seen this. It is very, very unfortunate but you can say it wakes people up. Maybe many of the young haven't learned this lesson yet?

Yes, I know that being promised jobs, and a better economy by the Repukes might work, but what will the price be? For young women it will be devastating. Being barefoot and pregnant won't get her any job.

I voted for Hillary for my Senator, but I voted for Obama in the Primary. I am a Senior but I have Genx and Millennial daughters. Honestly, while I have preferences for Dem candidates, hell can freeze over before I would ever vote for a Republican. My daughters have said the same thing.

[Thinkingabout]

31. Rand Paul may think young folks will not vote for Hillary, and I would not vote for Rand Paul.

He will tell any lie which fits the group he is facing, but he ran away from a young lady trying to ask him about immigration, does he think those folks will vote for him? She is young.

[lark]

32. They also won't support a racist like Rand either.

Rand loses, end of story.

[hughee99]

33. What kind of "Authoritarian" will they support, then? n/t

[Dawson Leery]

35. Rand Paul: Anti-Choice, Anti-Gay, Pro-Armed drones against robbery suspects.

[Kelvin Mace]

36. Very black pot calling very black kettle names.

[Tarheel_Dem]

37. Young voters won't like repackaged Republican crap passing itself off as Libertarianism either.

[freshwest]

59. LOL! 23 more types of Libertarians:

[Turbineguy]

38. This man has a future

standup comedy.

[baldguy]

49. As a punchline.

[Dont call me Shirley]

39. Does Wittle Wandy have oppositional defiance disorder regarding his Mommie?

[wildeyed]

41. Better than a guy who thinks my boss's "religious freedom"

trumps my personal freedom to make my own health choices. And that private businesses should be allowed to discriminate on the basis of race. Talk about an old school authoritarian.....

[JI7]

43. she will do well with White Women and make up the difference there

[djean111]

52. What if Fiorina runs on the GOP ticket? As a white woman, I will be so confused!

I will vote against Hillary in a primary. Gender, for a job this important, is totally irrelevant to me.

[JI7]

56. fiorina isn't popular among white women the way hillary is

[candelista]

45. I don't think Hillary is an authoritarian.

I think she is just an opportunist. If authoritarianism is useful to her, she will adopt it. Otherwise, not.

[msanthrope]

50. What's his DU name?? nt

[NanceGreggs]

58. ...

[freshwest]

60. Now you did it!

[winter is coming]

51. May be, but they're not voting for your sorry ass, either. n/t

[Prophet 451]

61. He's been snorting the Ayn again

If voters think Hillary is too authoritarian, they're unlikely to vote for a hard-right (he pretends to be libertarian because that's fashionable on the right now) whackjob like Paul.

[flamingdem]

62. Is he quoting DU with the use of the term "authoritarian"

or should I say plagiarizing

[Orsino]

63. Therefore they will.

That was easy.

[lurch2]

65. Nominating Hillary Clinton would be a mistake

Nominating Hillary Clinton would be a mistake. I couldn't care leass about Rand's rantings, but Hillary Clinton is unelectable in my opinion. Right or wrong, she would go into the race carrying more baggage than a 747. Her message would never be heard as she would spend the majority of the campaign playing defense. In my opinion nominating HRC is the best possible way for Democrats to help put an R in the White House.

[Ash_F]

66. "Femicides skyrocketed"

Seems like the other poster that listed this link got hidden.

People should read this story:

Hard choices: Hillary Clinton admits role in Honduran coup aftermath
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/9/hillary-clinton-honduraslatinamericaforeignpolicy.html

Mark Weisbrot is a co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington, D.C. He is also the president of Just Foreign Policy.

http://www.cepr.net/

http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/