Monsanto's Roundup Linked to Cancer - Again
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Source: Truthout
A brilliant and celebrated inventor, John Franz, gave us an herbicide, Roundup, which has changed the face of agriculture. This herbicide has become the foundation for an entirely novel approach to farming - biotech agriculture - that has expanded rapidly throughout the globe.
Monsanto makes seeds for soy, corn, canola, cotton, alfalfa and sugar beets that are genetically engineered to be tolerant to Roundup. The seeds are marketed in 120 countries. Throughout the world, Roundup is sprayed heavily as a weed killer without fear of damaging the cash crops, which have been engineered to survive the herbicide's effects.
"The change in how agriculture is produced has brought, frankly, a change in the profile of diseases. We've gone from a pretty healthy population to one with a high rate of cancer, birth defects and illnesses seldom seen before."
Roundup seemed, at first, to be the perfect herbicide. It blocks the ESPS synthase enzyme, which prevents the synthesis of amino acids that plants need for growth. Since animals don't have this enzyme, it was initially hypothesized that they would be safe from Roundup's effects.
Read more: http://truth-out.org/news/item/26614-monsanto-s-roundup-linked-to-cancer
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Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)You're so anti-science.
Dont call me Shirley
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BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)And showering them in Round Up makes em taste like a sweet chocolate sundae! Just ask DU's (voluntary) woo warriors who will be along in just a moment to call you a Luddite/idiot. Because agriculture is impossible without them and never existed before!
Dont call me Shirley
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CentralMass
(16,971 posts)
sabbat hunter
(7,110 posts)it sounds like the problem is with the chemicals (herbicides) not the GMOs. I am not really sure how GMO play in to this story at all.
But is it any surprise that overuse of chemicals can lead to cancer?
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Though the staunch defenders never address this. The system is designed to douse crops in Round Up or equivalent toxic brews. This will also create a very dangerous monoculture, because when you read the article you see they are talking about *an area the size of California* planted in a single crop, all the same GMO type of soy. If a disease, resistant weed or insect took over, think about the damage it could do to the food supply. It is the absolute worst farming practice imaginable and is for nothing else than to make a few mega corporations mega rich, but is a disaster for farmers and those who consume it--people and animals--not to mention the soil, pollinating insects and the ecosystem where they are planted.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)nature can, shrimp genes inserted into vegetable seeds is going to become like cows eating feed made from other cows ending up as mad cow disease.
glowing
(12,233 posts)Term study on GMO corn on lab rats (Monsanto only goes 3 mos in a test and the Govt goes off the company's findings)... In this study, they used GMO corn that was treated with pesticides and GMO without... The without started showing cases of cancer at about 4 to 6 mos... We are taking about Breast cancer and prostate cancers. So yes, changing the chemical equation of the food seems to also have a negative effect.
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Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Notice the trials were done in animals and the results were falsely applied to any humans. This is just another of Big Ag's famous money talks and anything else we will sue you. Agent Orange suffers are just the tip of this Iceberg. Roundup and Agent Orange have the same or similar formula. This shit is poison and is absorbed through your skin on contact and that is the bottom line.
candelista
(1,986 posts)The chemical makeup of the two herbicides is completely different, and the way each herbicide acts on plant growth is different.
(I am not saying that Roundup is good for you.)
happyslug
(14,779 posts)The other major agent in Agent Orange is the still legal to use 2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic acid, which has been linked to cancer in some studies, but most studies fail to show any link (The cancer risk is how contaminated is the 2,4.5-D is with its close cousin 2,4,5-T which is a well known cause of Cancer and is presently banned in the US).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic_acid
2,4,5-D as it is better know, is often referred to a the herbicide that replaced the hoe, for it is effective on broad leaf plants, i.e. most weeds, but ineffective on narrow lead plants, like grass, Wheat, oats and Corn.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)The price of corn has dropped below $3.15 per bushel (70 pounds) and that is below what it costs to grow/harvest/transport it. A big part of the cost for farmers is patented GMO seeds, and Round Up so the tax payer is on the hook for about $7 to $8 billion this year to make sure corn farmers stay in business and buy more corn seeds and Round up next year.
And now that amaranth, via natural selection and abundant use of Round Up, is Round Up ready, we will see more use of pesticides including Dow's newest, Enlist Duo, 2 pesticides to replace one. Driving costs higher, needing more subsidies...
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-22/why-dows-enlist-gmo-seeds-wait-on-epa-review-of-weed-killer
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)
sigh.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Roundup needs to be rounded up and banned worldwide
cstanleytech
(28,473 posts)as its a huge money maker and an easy way for farmers to control weeds.
I mean hell we all know tobacco causes cancer and yet they are still growing it and still selling cigarettes.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)If it's so safe, it shouldn't be a problem, eh?
cstanleytech
(28,473 posts)
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)hasn't been hijacked yet!!!
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Rebuke will commence shortly.
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)trying to revive a month old thread. I wonder if they get paid by number of comments or words.
barbaraj
(80 posts)possible effects glyphosate plays in chelating hard metals. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945589/
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)But they do have a whole lot of energy.
ReRe
(12,189 posts)... that Hillary is on the Board of Monsanto?
cstanleytech
(28,473 posts)though he might have sold it by now 
ReRe
(12,189 posts)... You thought I was just spreading a rumor against HRC. So I started googling and though I did not find a reference to a board membership for Hillary, I did find that the Monsanto connection to the Clinton's went back to the Rose Law Firm and to WJC's adm (Mickey Kantor, e.g.) And I think it was the following OP which links to a CommonDreams article where my old mind might have jumped the ship... a speech she made in July in favor of Monsanto:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251369629
cstanleytech
(28,473 posts)anywhere near the power they used to be when Bill was in office so they just arent worth my time.
ReRe
(12,189 posts)... did you reply with the George Soros remark? Do you have a link? Thanks. 
cstanleytech
(28,473 posts)as it shouldnt be that hard to find I imagine.
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/george-soros-top-10-new-stock-buys-cm301724
barbaraj
(80 posts)prepared as a chelator...clearly it's safe in controlled studies, yet not so much on crops grown in farm soil that
has absorbed heavy metals such as arsenic and cadmium over generations. It will act to clean the soil, then provide for us a dining delight of poisonous toxic metals. Now there's the issue of roundup resistant weeds, giving the chem labs a new use for 2,4,d, promoted now to solve this. noooo..2,4,d is not agent orange, it contains no dioxin we are told. 2,4,5 T was agent orange, however they are in the same chemical class of chlorophenoxy compounds. What is the synergy between the two in combination? anyones guess...the intention is to market this combo "enlist duo"..yet there is nothing from preventing farmers from using these products together before any named product or any safety testing.
barbaraj
(80 posts)will probably hate. Glyphosate because of it's chelation abilities has been named as "the" chemical responsible for combining with mercury and aluminum in vaccines to explain autism. This was presented by Stephanie Seneff at MIT, a senior research scientist. She's under attack by so many ..the gmo lovers, the vaccine advocates...they all want to take her down.
Archae
(47,245 posts)GMO's according to all CREDIBLE studies are safe.
Vaccines do NOT cause autism.
This Stephanie Seneff proved that she's full of shit, shen she gets interviewed here:
http://vaccine-injury.info/gmo-autism-link.cfm
By Jeffrey Smith, who has *NO* scientific credentials at all.
http://americanloons.blogspot.ca/2014/09/1157-jeffery-smith.html
barbaraj
(80 posts)just do what's best for my family. Not sure why you think Dr.Seneff would have a reason outside of her science to report on her findings. but if you think she's full of it..then that's your reality..doesn't bother me.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)So when you use the words safe and GMO together, it really means absolutely nothing.
It's like smoking a pack of cigarettes a day for a year and saying "See, I'm still alive and fine. Smoking cigarettes wont hurt you."
It's the long term that really affects you.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)While Monsanto created this chemical, they no longer hold the sole patents. Every chemical company that makes weed killers for lawn, gardens, and farms produces this shit now.
What was just Monsanto 10 years ago and really expensive is now dirt cheap.
Glyphosate, known as roundup is readily available. You can avoid Monsanto all you want and without knowing better be spraying the exact same chemical.
CentralMass
(16,971 posts)cstanleytech
(28,473 posts)Prime example is onions and chocolate.
They are entirely safe to eat for humans but not for dogs and cats.
In other words that study is going to have to show a link that can prove that its atleast likely that it causes tumors in humans just like it does in rats.
CentralMass
(16,971 posts)Maybe we should sprinkle glyphosate on our GMO Cornflakes on the morning.
barbaraj
(80 posts)was cleared by rat studies as not being a carcinogen, yet it is a powerful one in humans. ..and plays a role in the safety of glypohosate, glyphosate as a chelator takes up arsenic and deposits it into the crops.
Cha
(319,079 posts)"If the wind changes, the agrochemicals come into the house. My uncle just died of cancer. My wife too, passed away from cancer. Now many, many people are dying of cancer. It didn't used to be like that. In my opinion, this has to do with the poison they put on the fields."
Cha
(319,079 posts)
The settlement will require Monsanto to do the following:
◾-$9 million will be spent to clean dioxin contaminated dust from 4500 homes.
◾-$21 million will be spent to test to see if people have been poisoned with dioxin.
◾-Citizens will be monitored for such poisoning for 30 years, not just a few months.
◾-An additional $63 million is to be allotted if additional tests for dioxin contamination testing is necessary.
◾-Anyone who lived in the Nitro area between Jan. 1, 1948, and Sept. 3, 2010 will be tested for dioxin. Although they must show proof they lived in the area, they will be eligible for testing even if they no longer live in Nitro.
◾-Former or present employees of Monsanto are not eligible for any of these benefits.
◾-An office will be set up to organize testing for Nitro citizens. The registration of participants is to be overlooked by Charleston attorney Thomas Flaherty, who was appointed by the court.
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"While this case did not involve glyphosate, another deadly toxin used in Monsanto herbicides such as RoundUp, its time will come soon."
More..
http://earthweareone.com/monsanto-ordered-to-pay-93-million-to-small-town-for-poisoning-citizens-2/
tell the climate change deniers that it is proven by the majority of scientists yet when the majority of scientists say the responsible use of GMO's and pesticides are safe and progressives cry wolf expect to be taken seriously? I followed the links, the first link said this "Unfortunately, Roundup has now been shown to affect much more than the EPSP synthase enzyme. The herbicide has been proven to cause birth defects in vertebrates, including in humans, and it may also be the cause of a fatal kidney disease epidemic." with a link on the birth defects part. I then followed that link and found this "The maximum residue limit (MRL) allowed glyphosate in food and feed products in theEU is 20 mg/kg. Soybeans have been found to contain glyphosate residues at levels up to17mg/kg. Carrasco found malformations in frog and chicken embryos injected with 2.03mg/kg glyphosate – ten times lower than theMRL. While an injected dose is not the same as eating food containing glyphosate residues, no attempt has been made to properly investigate how much glyphosate people and animals are ingesting." Seriously!!!!??? put 2.03mg/kg of caffeine in a chicken embryo do ya think there will be birth defects such as here http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22449533 ? Are you going to ban caffeine now? The second link which was on "may also be the cause of a fatal kidney disease epidemic." led straight to "http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/25122-exposing-monsanto-herbicide-linked-to-birth-defects-the-vitamin-a-connection" , notice anything there???? Let me give you a hint, "www.truth-out.org/opinion",, opinion,,,,,,,. You either go by science or you don't, and when you say the science is in on climate change and then do an about face on science when it comes to GMO's and roundup, well, that makes you a special kind of person.
barbaraj
(80 posts)it's the designer science . It's hard to tell which is which. Look at those who financed the study. We've allowed chemical and drug companies to put forth products, run their own science, which is "good enough" for our epa, fda, cdc. We need private unaffiliated testing of all products, and we simply do not have that.
glowing
(12,233 posts)base the findings that are there with what would be expected outcomes. So, it's not exactly a fair and impartial test being run. The recent French testing was the only independent, long term study that has been done to date on GMO corn. And even then, it was a study that had to be done almost covertly since Monsanto has its products covered to the hilt in regards to the seed integrity and the make up of the seed...
Also, climate scientists are not the same as chemical scientists in a good lab. Most of the climate science is based on geological core samples; especially in the ice, to determine previous conditions over millions of years and bringing them into relevance to conditions today. For instance, we know when the first nuclear bombs were exploded due to the fall out that is present in the core samples... Before that layer, there was none. So, the sciences are different in regards to study methods.
hlthe2b
(113,972 posts)The SOP for LBN does not allow for analysis pieces, but only latest breaking news. Host consensus is that, while important, this does violate the SOP and should be encouraged for repost in GD.
Your understanding is appreciated. Sorry.