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Mister Nightowl

(396 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:00 PM Oct 2014

NBC Wanted to Hire Jon Stewart As Host of Meet the Press

Source: Daily Intelligencer (New York Magazine)

October 8, 2014 4:26 p.m.

This Sunday marks Chuck Todd’s one-month anniversary in the anchor chair at Meet the Press. Despite an opening-week ratings spike from his exclusive sit-down interview with President Obama, the Todd-helmed show has settled back into third place behind ABC's This Week and CBS's Face the Nation. This has been frustrating to NBC News executives, who at one point had considered going in a radically different direction with the show.

Before choosing Todd, NBC News president Deborah Turness held negotiations with Jon Stewart about hosting Meet the Press, according to three senior television sources with knowledge of the talks. One source explained that NBC was prepared to offer Stewart virtually “anything" to bring him over. "They were ready to back the Brink's truck up," the source said. A spokesperson for NBC declined to comment. James Dixon, Stewart's agent, did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

It makes sense that NBC would make a run at Stewart. The comedian-cum-media-critic possesses something that broadcast executives covet: a loyal, young audience. And it's not the first time NBC tried recruiting him. According to sources, NBC Entertainment courted Stewart several years ago for a 10 p.m. variety show (the slot ultimately went to Jay Leno). This April, CBS announced Stewart's Comedy Central colleague Stephen Colbert will replace David Letterman next year.

Read more: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/10/jon-stewart-might-have-been-meet-the-press-host.html



I'm actually not a huge fan of The Daily Show, but Jon certainly would have done a better job than Chuckles!
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NBC Wanted to Hire Jon Stewart As Host of Meet the Press (Original Post) Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 OP
And I hope the POTUS never sits down with that asshole EVER again. n/t Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #1
a better choice would have beem roomtomove Oct 2014 #2
I so Rebl Oct 2014 #36
Oh, to be able to Rec a reply AwakeAtLast Oct 2014 #55
Stewart knows a LOT and has plenty of gravitas.... Adrahil Oct 2014 #69
ATTN NBC Botany Oct 2014 #3
Even better -Keith Olbermann on point Oct 2014 #7
I agree...nt abakan Oct 2014 #11
He would have been great. n/t Cleita Oct 2014 #18
Another good choice AwakeAtLast Oct 2014 #56
Jon Stewart and Rachael have the same hair. YOHABLO Oct 2014 #45
ironically Stewart is at his weakest in his interviewing but it still vastly better than Gregory or dsc Oct 2014 #4
I disagree. candelista Oct 2014 #13
His interviews are highly edited mostly. AngryAmish Oct 2014 #27
Is that bad or good? Aren't all shows "highly edited"? nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #37
Monday Night Raw is not. AngryAmish Oct 2014 #43
LOL. I get it, but I still bet it's highly edited. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #44
That's a problem. Political Guests should be unconfortable 2banon Oct 2014 #64
If you're basing this on his interviews on The Daily Show... eggplant Oct 2014 #21
Yes, here is why Crossfire went off the air csziggy Oct 2014 #31
I never tire of watching that. n/t eggplant Oct 2014 #49
The only problem - Mainstream Media is still hurting this country csziggy Oct 2014 #51
True, but I'm not sure there is anything on these days like Crossfire. eggplant Oct 2014 #52
Crossfire sucked for a very long time csziggy Oct 2014 #53
I don't even need to watch it to know it! JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #78
But he's a guest there rather than an interviewer. Orsino Oct 2014 #72
My point is that TDS isn't a news show. eggplant Oct 2014 #73
My point is that has never interviewed anyone for a news show. Orsino Oct 2014 #76
Sorry, I didn't mean to say that he's *only* a comedian. eggplant Oct 2014 #79
I also suspect he'd be great. Orsino Oct 2014 #80
I agree. on both points. n/t 2banon Oct 2014 #63
Hiring Stewart for MTP would've neutralized his effectiveness RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #5
That's why I'm pissed about Colbert (who I AM a big fan of) going to TLS Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #6
Agreed. Colbert has basically been bought off. n/t RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #9
That is unfair. Justice Oct 2014 #19
In other words, he will engage in self-censorship. I rest my case. RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #22
Colbert is brilliant. The Late Show will expose him to an immense audience. Zen Democrat Oct 2014 #54
Agreed. eggplant Oct 2014 #74
I'll hope to see his Colbert character appear again. n/t Orsino Oct 2014 #77
+1......n/t Hotler Oct 2014 #70
While I might agree that it would dilute his effectiveness, it would be better than Todd. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #38
Your point is well taken RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #46
Granted that our society idolizes wealth, but there are some good people out there. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #60
I would be happy with either Stewart or Maddow gopiscrap Oct 2014 #8
I Think Jon Would Have Been a Quantum Upgrade Over Todd colsohlibgal Oct 2014 #10
Interesting davidpdx Oct 2014 #12
hahahahaha wheniwasincongress Oct 2014 #14
To which Stewart responded: Earth_First Oct 2014 #15
Since chuck hasn't done squat to improve the ratings, I wonder how long they'll let him stay there. calimary Oct 2014 #16
Is There A Pool Going To Bet On How Long Chucky Toad Will Last As Host Of MTP?..... global1 Oct 2014 #24
Well, it used to be they gave you 13 weeks - one quarter to make your mark. calimary Oct 2014 #61
Goes to show how clueless and off the rails NBC is. Cleita Oct 2014 #17
I agree. Rachel would be perfect. Chemisse Oct 2014 #20
Your mistake lies in believing that they care about journalism. RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #23
I can't disagree with you. n/t Cleita Oct 2014 #26
They fact that they gave Chucky MTP should be indication enough... toddwv Oct 2014 #34
Jon is closer to a journalist than anyone in Corp-Media. He probably has trouble rhett o rick Oct 2014 #39
I think Daniel Tosh would be fun as MTP host. nt valerief Oct 2014 #25
Rachel Maddow would be WONDERfUL as host of MTP. She's a serious, smart, personable, northoftheborder Oct 2014 #28
MTP gets most of it's interviews from the conservative side. They are willing guests because they rhett o rick Oct 2014 #41
During this entire thread.... IkeRepublican Oct 2014 #29
Long time Stewart fan - from before his MTv show days underpants Oct 2014 #30
I agree. nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #42
If NBC hired Jon Stewart for MTP, they would have killed the canard that big media is run by Jewish AngryAmish Oct 2014 #32
Was this a joke? Shrike47 Oct 2014 #35
I am dead serious. AngryAmish Oct 2014 #40
You do know he's Jewish right? genxlib Oct 2014 #48
What? If that was true why wouldn't he use his name. AngryAmish Oct 2014 #50
Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz AwakeAtLast Oct 2014 #57
Um, no. eggplant Oct 2014 #75
Jon Stewart is Jewish. 2banon Oct 2014 #65
Actually "Stewart" is a Scottish name, which has it's roots in Gael. (Not Anglo) 2banon Oct 2014 #66
I might have watched MTP with Stewart. Sure won't with Todd. Shrike47 Oct 2014 #33
What is the point in watching any of these Sunday talk shows? YOHABLO Oct 2014 #47
What the hell would the DC crowd do when asked a real question or when Stewart yurbud Oct 2014 #58
Stewart Would Have Been Great, If And Only If.... supercats Oct 2014 #59
I actually posted that recommendation here on du. Rather amusing to read but 2banon Oct 2014 #62
I find it amazing that there are no Tim Russert's out there mackerel Oct 2014 #67
I really like the commercials they're running.... AngryOldDem Oct 2014 #68
Anyone they put there.. sendero Oct 2014 #71

roomtomove

(243 posts)
2. a better choice would have beem
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:05 PM
Oct 2014

Rachel Maddow. She would bring a much larger knowledge base and gravitas to the show.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
69. Stewart knows a LOT and has plenty of gravitas....
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 07:00 AM
Oct 2014

But I'm with you. Rachel would have been the best choice for MTP.

AwakeAtLast

(14,315 posts)
56. Another good choice
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 10:31 PM
Oct 2014

Although NBC would have to buy stock in Depends for their higher-ups....

dsc

(53,397 posts)
4. ironically Stewart is at his weakest in his interviewing but it still vastly better than Gregory or
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:06 PM
Oct 2014

Todd at that.

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
13. I disagree.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:48 PM
Oct 2014

I think Stewart does a great interview. He is able to ask some very probing questions without ever making his guests feel uncomfortable.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
43. Monday Night Raw is not.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:41 PM
Oct 2014

But then again, Monday Night Raw has more intellectual honesty and people on the show have more personal dignity than the people on Meet The Press.

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
21. If you're basing this on his interviews on The Daily Show...
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 07:15 PM
Oct 2014

...then you are naïve. Like Colbert, his on-screen persona isn't who he really is. Watch his spot as a guest on Crossfire -- he singlehandedly killed that show dead. He's much more than what you see on TDS.

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
51. The only problem - Mainstream Media is still hurting this country
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 09:14 PM
Oct 2014

It has accelerated the damage rather than stopping or slowing down. At least Jon Stewart tried.

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
52. True, but I'm not sure there is anything on these days like Crossfire.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 09:23 PM
Oct 2014

Most of the (undeniably worse) terrible mainstream media today isn't left vs right screaming at each other. It's one or the other. Or at least it seems to me -- I stopped watching anything on TV even vaguely about current events other than TDS and Colbert, and I DVR those to watch in a batch at the end of the week. Beyond that, it's DVDs, movie channels, or streaming Netflix or Prime.

And man, am I a lot happier. If I only had quality internet service with reasonable bandwidth, I'd drop my dish altogether and switch to pure streaming. Thankfully (really!) the population density here is low enough that there isn't even cable on our street.

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
53. Crossfire sucked for a very long time
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 09:31 PM
Oct 2014

My husband gets upset when I get mad at the news shows for bringing up the "other side" - he says their whole reason for living is the same as kids on the playing ground yelling "Fight, fight, fight!" when two kids get into an argument.

I am so tired of MSNBC running clips out of Limbaugh and the other right wingers I now just change the channel. Usually I don't change back . It's so much better for my blood pressure and my outlook on life!

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
72. But he's a guest there rather than an interviewer.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:44 AM
Oct 2014

I agree that he is a little weak in grilling guests, but he is very practiced and far better than most MSM talking heads.

He even prepares ahead of time.

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
73. My point is that TDS isn't a news show.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:58 AM
Oct 2014

It's a comedy show. The interviews are supposed to be funny, as opposed to deep. It is impressive that he's able to get as much depth out of them as he does. The Crossfire piece is notable, because he *wasn't* being a comedian there ("I'm not your monkey.&quot but rather had a serious message to make; namely, that partisan scream fests are divisive and harmful. And his criticism was deep, coherent, and delivered in a calm, yet firm manner. And it led (quickly) to the demise of the show.

Everyone seems to agree that he is a thoughtful person who prepares for his interviews. People seem to get lost somewhere between that and his current on-air persona. For the same effort, one could complain that his TDS performances aren't as funny as his stand-up work. Or that his later books like "America" (co-written with TDS writing staff) isn't as good as his earlier solo writing. They're all different contexts.

I suspect his movie won't be very funny. Is that a valid criticism. given that he is a comedian?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
76. My point is that has never interviewed anyone for a news show.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 10:12 AM
Oct 2014

He is, as you say, a comedian.

I know about as much about his punditry skills as I do about that movie we haven't seen yet.

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
79. Sorry, I didn't mean to say that he's *only* a comedian.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 11:10 AM
Oct 2014

I meant that *on TDS* he's a comedian. But his body of work shows that he is an intellectual. And the undertone of TDS shows that he is capable of digging in to the actual meat of a topic (via irony). He has shown the ability to have a reasoned discourse with people he immensely disagrees with, without pandering.

In my eye, he'd make an excellent MTP host. I'm sure he wouldn't do it without total editorial control. And the audience he would draw would make for a ratings bonanza.

Regardless, this is all a hypothetical issue. People can disagree on possible or likely outcomes, without anyone being wrong.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
80. I also suspect he'd be great.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 11:27 AM
Oct 2014

Too great, perhaps, and no doubt the network would do its best to neuter him. I'm surprised that Maddow wasn't openly courted; she's proven somewhat amenable to corporate dumb.

I guess I have to think better of NBC for having not only campaigned for Stewart, but with big money.

Justice

(7,261 posts)
19. That is unfair.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 07:12 PM
Oct 2014

Colbert will not go to the dark side, he will always present honestly. He will not allow Republicans to bloviate.

He may just take a break from outright making them look foolish for a while.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
22. In other words, he will engage in self-censorship. I rest my case.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 07:24 PM
Oct 2014

Hey, on one level, I don't blame him one bit. (Gotta pay the rent, feed the family, etc.) It's our loss, not his. And he doesn't really owe us anything.

In our society, most people who speak the truth are bought off, marginalized, or outright destroyed. Given the alternatives, I can see why the first option would be quite appealing.

Colbert can still be funny, I'm sure. But his humor will be sanitized of any meaningful political impact. Granted, it will still titillate some people, just as the sight of an exposed ankle used to arouse some Victorian gentlemen.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
54. Colbert is brilliant. The Late Show will expose him to an immense audience.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 09:59 PM
Oct 2014

I'm excited about it. This is the guy with the titaniums who did his most brutal comedy right in the faces of Bush, Scalia and a full cast of Neocons at the WHCD.

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
74. Agreed.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 10:07 AM
Oct 2014

The idea that he has been bought off is just silly. His persona on The Colbert Report *isn't* who he is. It's a character that he plays. There are clips available of him talking to guests before the show making sure they understand exactly that.

Of course he won't be doing the same show under The Late Show moniker. It's a completely different venue with a different category of guests and a completely different format. That doesn't mean he's a sell-out.

It's like complaining that Patrick Stewart sold out when he did Star Trek. He's still Patrick Stewart, and he is still a Shakespearian actor. And he still puts on lobster costumes and plays in a bathtub in order to amuse his wife. And does voice work for National Car Rental. Does that diminish the serious work he does to stop domestic violence? Not a whit.

Colbert is a brilliant intellectual with comedic timing. I can't think of a better person to replace Dave.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
38. While I might agree that it would dilute his effectiveness, it would be better than Todd.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:32 PM
Oct 2014

Someone else can step in behind him and be "effective" on the Daily Show. We have to get progressives on Corp-Media even if they are restrained some. I think he would push the envelope and that's what we need. Steven Colbert is very smart, I don't think he will be "neutralized."

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
46. Your point is well taken
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:56 PM
Oct 2014

And although I certainly don't think that Colbert will be left toothless by his promotion, I would be greatly surprised if he doesn't lose much of his political bite.

I hope I'm wrong, rhett o rick!

Nonetheless, Rufus's Law says "All artists ultimately become satires of themselves."

Or as Randy Newman once explained, "It's money that matters. In the USA."

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
60. Granted that our society idolizes wealth, but there are some good people out there.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:27 AM
Oct 2014

We have to take a chance with some like Stewart and Colbert. I don't think they will sell out but may influence as much as possible.

colsohlibgal

(5,276 posts)
10. I Think Jon Would Have Been a Quantum Upgrade Over Todd
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:32 PM
Oct 2014

It looks though that he wants to ride it out with "The Daily Show".

I think Colbert will do quite well taking over for Letterman, he'll still be witty and coming from the same place - and the same place really as Dave.

I hope the new guy, Larry Wilmore, hits it off bit like John Oliver did filling in for Stewart, but I was kind of hoping they'd give a female a shot and give it to Samantha Bee.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
12. Interesting
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:36 PM
Oct 2014

Stewart wouldn't have been a good fit for a serious show. He needs to stay on cable so he can mock Bill O'Reilly and Todd

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
14. hahahahaha
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:54 PM
Oct 2014

these reports about MTP are killing me, I love it! I'm expecting them to dubstep their theme song and have Chuck Todd in baggy pants and sneakers. So desperate.

But wouldn't Republicans refuse to go on MTP with Jon Stewart was the host? (not a bad thing but I want their feet held to the fire) What is John McCain supposed to do on Sundays? Spend them with his family?!

calimary

(90,021 posts)
16. Since chuck hasn't done squat to improve the ratings, I wonder how long they'll let him stay there.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:57 PM
Oct 2014

Hope not for long. He brings nothing to "Meet the Press" except yet another in a tiresome and never-ending series of GOP-leaning panelists, talking heads, and hosts with political agendas, and the ongoing subtitle "The john mccain again show".

global1

(26,507 posts)
24. Is There A Pool Going To Bet On How Long Chucky Toad Will Last As Host Of MTP?.....
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 07:32 PM
Oct 2014

If not there should be.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
61. Well, it used to be they gave you 13 weeks - one quarter to make your mark.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 01:33 AM
Oct 2014

Who knows. But I'd bet on him being gone. Just because I WANT him to be gone.

They'll give him a few ratings cycles to pull the show out of third place, but only a few. I'm kinda doubtful about these being more of the days when one host was anointed and allowed to settle in and become an institution. I doubt they'll let fuck turd sustain for too long if he can't get the ratings up.

I would love to see him shown the door. I've seen suggestions among the comments on a couple of these links - people suggesting Rachel Maddow, or Keith Olbermann (DAYUM, that would be COOL! That would be "Must-See TV" on a Sunday morning FOR SURE!!!). It would have been a kick-and-a-half to see Jon Stewart remake that slot in his own image and likeness - it would have been a real lurch off the conventional tracks in network TV. Especially in that big Establishment Sunday Newsblock. It'd make a HUGE amount of noise, press-wise and publicity-wise. And it would hook the target (younger) demos, too.

I can also see why Jon Stewart would pass it up to stay put where he is. But it would be like they used to say in the candy bar commercials: indescribably delicious!

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
17. Goes to show how clueless and off the rails NBC is.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 07:08 PM
Oct 2014

Jon is not a journalist but a comedian who does political humor. Even Jon realizes that, which is why he probably has refused. If they want a good host, they have one sitting under their nose Rachel Maddow.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
23. Your mistake lies in believing that they care about journalism.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 07:29 PM
Oct 2014

Now that networks no longer have any FCC obligations to produce programs in the public interest, it's all about ratings and revenue. Journalism is just a flimsy pretext.

toddwv

(2,831 posts)
34. They fact that they gave Chucky MTP should be indication enough...
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:18 PM
Oct 2014

The man has zero charisma.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
39. Jon is closer to a journalist than anyone in Corp-Media. He probably has trouble
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:35 PM
Oct 2014

getting them to commit to letting him be himself.

northoftheborder

(7,637 posts)
28. Rachel Maddow would be WONDERfUL as host of MTP. She's a serious, smart, personable,
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:02 PM
Oct 2014

....Knowledgeable, person, who can be entertaining, but is not a comedian. She does excellent interviews, if that is what they want the show to be.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
41. MTP gets most of it's interviews from the conservative side. They are willing guests because they
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:37 PM
Oct 2014

know they will be treated as royalty. None of them would be on a show with Rachel. I doubt that MTP wants to alienate all their conservative regulars.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
32. If NBC hired Jon Stewart for MTP, they would have killed the canard that big media is run by Jewish
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:13 PM
Oct 2014

Stewart is an English name. I hate antisemitism.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
40. I am dead serious.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:35 PM
Oct 2014

There is a recurrent, ugly trope that Jewish people are disproportionately represented in media and newsmedia especially.

Hiring Stewart would help put that ugly thought to bed.

genxlib

(6,136 posts)
48. You do know he's Jewish right?
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:59 PM
Oct 2014

His real name is Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz.

My sarcasm meter is on the fritz so i can't tell when people are joking anymore

AwakeAtLast

(14,315 posts)
57. Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 10:34 PM
Oct 2014

Is his real name.

Jon Stewart - Biography - Writer, Talk Show Host, Comedian - Biography.com
http://www.biography.com/people/jon-stewart-16242282


edit: Typo

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
65. Jon Stewart is Jewish.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 01:55 AM
Oct 2014

Why he took on a Scottish surname is puzzling. but that's what he did for his tv personality identity.. lot's of people do that. He could have taken a classic Anglo name, like Davis, Allen, or Brown etc that so many in the industry have done, but he chose a Scottish name, which I find interesting.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
47. What is the point in watching any of these Sunday talk shows?
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:57 PM
Oct 2014

Jon Stewart has too much integrity to take on a venture that would require too much suppression by Big Corporate. He's also way too funny to waste.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
58. What the hell would the DC crowd do when asked a real question or when Stewart
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 10:57 PM
Oct 2014

laughed in their faces when they gave bullshit talking point answers?

The emperor has no clothes, and Stewart is the kid would love to point that out to their faces, week after week.

If he had been hired for that job, the suit who thought it was a good idea would end up working the fry station at McDonald's for the rest of his life.

 

supercats

(429 posts)
59. Stewart Would Have Been Great, If And Only If....
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 11:53 PM
Oct 2014

He was given full autonomy and final say. Allowed to pick ALL his guests and run the show how he wanted . Otherwise he would have not only failed but would have lost a tremendous amount of stature.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
62. I actually posted that recommendation here on du. Rather amusing to read but
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 01:44 AM
Oct 2014

I don't buy they were seriously considering him.

AngryOldDem

(14,180 posts)
68. I really like the commercials they're running....
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 06:56 AM
Oct 2014

...all hip and upbeat, showing that MTP still has relevance to today's world, what with its flashy new set and all.

I think the show is in its death throes...FINALLY.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
71. Anyone they put there..
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 08:55 AM
Oct 2014

... would have to have editorial freedom, and I don't see that happening.

Why do those folks HAVE a good youth audience? Because they come closer to telling the truth about things than the scripted talking heads on the conventional news programs. Take away the truth and you've got nothing.

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