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K lib

(153 posts)
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:34 PM Nov 2014

Republican win the Senate :(

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Republican win the Senate :( (Original Post) K lib Nov 2014 OP
Just saw the AP bulletin shenmue Nov 2014 #1
The repubs will overplay their hand someone else Nov 2014 #10
It's not a huge advantage. defacto7 Nov 2014 #15
Ya but they did it back when bush was in office to and screwed up the entire country cstanleytech Nov 2014 #16
Fuck. Hayabusa Nov 2014 #2
Fuck. Another 50 attempts to overturn the ACA... Thor_MN Nov 2014 #3
And this time... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #6
Yes, they are going to box him in... Gloria Nov 2014 #12
We're fucked hotrod0808 Nov 2014 #4
Not surprised at all, BUT... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #5
The Dems will bend over, Chris Matthews has been Gloria Nov 2014 #7
I've had just about enough of Tweety's droppings... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #8
This doesn't warrant all the angst PSPS Nov 2014 #9
The GOP has their strategy set Gloria Nov 2014 #11
I keep hoping he'll screw compromise Mz Pip Nov 2014 #14
I dont agree that obama will bend over. Besides I dont think they will try to really overturn the cstanleytech Nov 2014 #19
The best we can hope for is that Republicans eliminate the fillibuster quakerboy Nov 2014 #22
I Think I have to Agree With tonekat Nov 2014 #13
Those doom and gloom emails sure did not help. AngryDem001 Nov 2014 #18
NOTHING is going to get better as long as Citizens United stands. Sparky 1 Nov 2014 #17
I wonder if there will be much infighting between the old timers and the tea party? C Moon Nov 2014 #20
Impeachment is comming, I guarentee it. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #21
Landscape was not friendly to democrats Morganfleeman Nov 2014 #23
Locking In_The_Wind Nov 2014 #24

shenmue

(38,584 posts)
1. Just saw the AP bulletin
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:35 PM
Nov 2014

someone else

(55 posts)
10. The repubs will overplay their hand
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:59 PM
Nov 2014

Huge advantage to the repubs now, but watch for them to squander their win over the next 2 years. I don't think they will be able to control themselves. I'm not worried.

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
15. It's not a huge advantage.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:23 AM
Nov 2014

Not by a long shot. What they have gained will be obstructionism in reverse. Do unto others.... etc.

cstanleytech

(28,316 posts)
16. Ya but they did it back when bush was in office to and screwed up the entire country
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:30 AM
Nov 2014

and now their are back in power, its like alot of the voters have their heads buried up their butts.

Hayabusa

(2,149 posts)
2. Fuck.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:36 PM
Nov 2014
 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
3. Fuck. Another 50 attempts to overturn the ACA...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:39 PM
Nov 2014

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
6. And this time...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:42 PM
Nov 2014

...Obama might actually pass some of the chip-aways into law.

Tragic.

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
12. Yes, they are going to box him in...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:03 AM
Nov 2014

see below ...

Is he still playing "3-dimensional chess??"

hotrod0808

(323 posts)
4. We're fucked
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:42 PM
Nov 2014

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
5. Not surprised at all, BUT...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:42 PM
Nov 2014

The Senate was not "won". It was BOUGHT. And PAID FOR.

And if you think $4 Billion is a steep price tag for the entire legislative branch, just wait for the 2016 General. How does $8 Billion sound? Or MORE?

Think the Kochs won't spend that kind of money? Or Adelson? Think again...

Now, the Dems will need to take a page from the Repubs' obstructionist playbook and filibuster every bullshit bill they try to inflict on the people. That, and if McTurtle tries to chip away at Obamacare through budget reconciliation, Obama will need to keep his handy dandy veto pen at the ready.

These are big IFs right now, especially with a party that has such a fetish for "bipartisanship".

I'm bummed right now, too. But I'm not surprised.

And not seeing too much hope for a return to the progressive politics that the Democratic party USED to stand for.

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
7. The Dems will bend over, Chris Matthews has been
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:45 PM
Nov 2014

advising that tonight as he chatted with Manchin...oh, yeah, the GOP
certainly will meet the Dems halfway, now that they've lost the Senate..
No, the Dems will bend over AS USUAL..

NO FIGHT, NOT PRIDE IN ANYTHING THEY'VE DONE, COWARDLY...

CRAP

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
8. I've had just about enough of Tweety's droppings...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:48 PM
Nov 2014

...not to mention Joe ButtMunchin and his ConservaDem bullshit.

PSPS

(15,268 posts)
9. This doesn't warrant all the angst
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:54 PM
Nov 2014

First, this just means another two years of no real government (added to the previous 20-plus years.) Nothing gets through the senate anyway without 60 votes, except for the largely ceremonial non-judicial appointments.

Second, the republicans won't eliminate the filibuster for everything as some claim they will. So nothing worthwhile will get through the new senate, just like the old one.

Third, an Obama veto is still solid. There isn't enough to override. This also is one reason for #2 above.

Fourth, the one thing that will change is the tone of politics. It will become worse than it already is. Ignore it. It is all theater anyway. Turn off the silly opinion shows that are carefully crafted not to inform but to enrage. It's all part of the "outrage industry."

Fifth, everyone, including the media, has been treating politics like a sporting match -- "the red team versus the blue team." Jon Stewart is right. The real sides here are not red/blue or republican/democrat. It is honest versus corrupt. Framing this like a soccer game isn't productive at all. In fact, it is childish.

That's enough.



Gloria

(17,663 posts)
11. The GOP has their strategy set
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:02 AM
Nov 2014

to force Obama to sign things to preserve SOME things...

He is a wimp and I don't trust him to veto anything.
He will worry about looking like the "angry Black man" some more
and you know that if he vetoes, the GOP will yell "obstruction" ...apparently,
people did not see THEM obstructing, but they sure will know that
Obama is "obstructing."\

He better start using the word "preserving" if does veto anything. He's got to
argue his case AGAIN...

Mz Pip

(28,388 posts)
14. I keep hoping he'll screw compromise
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:09 AM
Nov 2014

He's got nothing to lose at this point. They are going to hate him no matter what he does. He needs to save his last dance for us,

cstanleytech

(28,316 posts)
19. I dont agree that obama will bend over. Besides I dont think they will try to really overturn the
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:35 AM
Nov 2014

obamacare now as its working and if they do that it would hurt alot of people who they know damn well will hold a grudge.
Now what they might try is to actually improve it now and take the credit away from Obama and the democrats, after all they want the whitehouse and the only way they will get that is if they dont fuck this up like they did when Bush was in office.

quakerboy

(14,786 posts)
22. The best we can hope for is that Republicans eliminate the fillibuster
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:50 AM
Nov 2014

and alienate the American populace with their true colors.

tonekat

(2,482 posts)
13. I Think I have to Agree With
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:06 AM
Nov 2014

Jon Stewart who had a video chat with Reince Priebus (I have to do anagrams with his name!) opined that the Dems strategy was to "curl up in a fetal position". I have to agree. They ran from Obama, didn't speak out for the ACA, and certainly did not light any fires under the voters. I am so frustrated that they once again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Some of these races were close, but the will to win just wasn't there.

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
18. Those doom and gloom emails sure did not help.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:35 AM
Nov 2014

Sparky 1

(429 posts)
17. NOTHING is going to get better as long as Citizens United stands.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:35 AM
Nov 2014

As long as it stands, our elected "representatives" (president, House, Senate, governors, etc.) aren't going to represent us beyond tossing a few crumbs and a lot of yada yada lip service. Billionaires will continue to win, and the rest of us will continue to lose.

C Moon

(13,542 posts)
20. I wonder if there will be much infighting between the old timers and the tea party?
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:12 AM
Nov 2014

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
21. Impeachment is comming, I guarentee it.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 01:15 AM
Nov 2014

The Teabagger base is chomping at the bit for it.

Morganfleeman

(117 posts)
23. Landscape was not friendly to democrats
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:54 AM
Nov 2014

Republicans will be defending twice as many seats in 2016 so this could very well flip back in a couple of years.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
24. Locking
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:04 AM
Nov 2014
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