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Sat Nov 8, 2014, 02:14 AM

Robin Williams’s autopsy found no alcohol or illegal drugs

Source: Associated Press

Robin Williams’s autopsy found that no alcohol or illegal drugs were in his body when he killed himself at his Northern California home in August, sheriff’s officials said Friday.

The results released by the Marin County sheriff’s office found that the actor had taken prescription medications, but in “therapeutic concentrations.”

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Williams had two types of antidepressants in his system when he died, as well as a Parkinson’s medication, caffeine, and another ingredient found in tea and cocoa, the autopsy found.

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Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/robin-williamss-autopsy-found-no-alcohol-or-illegal-drugs/2014/11/07/05c9c580-66e9-11e4-836c-83bc4f26eb67_story.html

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Reply Robin Williams’s autopsy found no alcohol or illegal drugs (Original post)
bananas Nov 2014 OP
Fearless Nov 2014 #1
GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #6
bananas Nov 2014 #2
CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #11
msanthrope Nov 2014 #12
CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #14
msanthrope Nov 2014 #15
CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #16
iamthebandfanman Nov 2014 #21
Cleita Nov 2014 #3
C Moon Nov 2014 #4
LittleGirl Nov 2014 #5
Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #7
Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2014 #8
Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #9
Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2014 #10
Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #19
Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2014 #20
Kablooie Nov 2014 #13
hunter Nov 2014 #17
candelista Nov 2014 #18

Response to bananas (Original post)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 02:17 AM

1. I'm not sure if this makes me happy or sad

I'm glad he wasn't under the influence of things and unintentionally killed himself. Yet, I'm saddened because he did kill himself unimpaired and rationally.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 03:57 AM

6. Just because they're legal ...

doesn't mean unimpaired.

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 02:20 AM

2. PDF of coroner's report at TMZ

The PDF is http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/1107-robin-williams-coroners-report.pdf

Here's the TMZ news article which links to it:
http://www.tmz.com/2014/11/07/robin-williams-autopsy-results-drugs-depression-suicide-parkinsons/

Robin Williams Suicide Triggered by Depression, Parkinson's, Paranoia
11/7/2014 10:36 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF

Robin Williams was struggling with his Parkinson's, anxiety, depression and paranoia just before he committed suicide ... this according the Coroner's report.

The paranoia has not been previously reported. According to the report -- obtained by TMZ -- the night before Robin died, he placed several wristwatches in a sock and gave them to someone because he was worried about their safe keeping.

Williams had 4 drugs in his system -- 2 anti-depressants, 2 caffeine compounds, (listed as a drug). The Coroner's report confirms what we were told by various people ... Williams was sober at the time of death.

When authorities found Robin's body ... they saw a closed bottle of Seroquel, a drug that treats schizophrenia, bipolar disorders and depression. It was prescribed a week before he died.

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He had 5 drugs in his system, Levodopa for Parkinsons.


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Response to bananas (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:54 AM

11. Seroquel

>>Psychiatric

Psychiatric side effects have included psychosis, hallucinations, paranoid reactions, delusions, manic reaction, depersonalization, catatonic reaction, emotional lability, suicide attempt, and euphoria.

Great stuff Seroquel is ...

I know someone taking this stuff an OMG is about all I can say; person is a bit delusional at times IMO and this person is taking this drug because they are suffering the long term results of a severe head injury and insomnia.

More here re: Seroquel:

http://www.drugs.com/sfx/seroquel-side-effects.html



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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:23 AM

12. I was given Seroquel for insomnia....and after

 

a week on it I was having mindbending hallucinations, and suicidal ideation...that I had never had before. Quit it cold turkey and cannot begin to describe the headaches that resulted.

Went to another doctor.....who told me to take Benadryl at night. Easy, peasy.

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:32 AM

14. The person I know that is taking this sh*t

is now having severe headaches and seeing things (green spots). Said person went to an eye doctor and was told reading glasses were needed.

The reading glasses have not solved the visual problem and the headaches needless to say. I really wish this person would get off of this crap drug as it is not doing any good whatsoever from my observations.

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:35 AM

15. Second and third opinions are always good. Some drugs don't work for everyone.

 

And I never should have been given that drug for sleeplessness.....

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:50 AM

16. 2nd and 3rd opinions are hard to get

When you have crap insurance which this person has. Sad.

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 04:09 PM

21. its a terrible drug..

and I know from experience..

like someone else who has commented.. I was prescribed it for a while and refused to take it after about a week or so..
there were tons of side effects.

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 02:26 AM

3. I'm suspicious of the Parkinson's drug, levodopa.

That could have influenced his mind. My dad died of complications of Parkinson's and heart trouble before they had that drug and when it became available, after the fact for him, there were concerns about the side effects.

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 03:00 AM

4. Sad. That must have been such a dark morning for him. :(

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 03:30 AM

5. His death just rocked me

I don't follow 'stars' but Robin Williams was a loved favorite of mine. I'm even more sad to learn that drugs he was given may have contributed to his demise. I know that I've had some severe reactions to drugs and ended up in the ER with so much pain, it hurt to breathe.
RIP Robin. You were loved.

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 03:59 AM

7. I'm just waiting for the knee-jerk anti-meds reaction

You know the one, the one that says all psychiatric drugs are a bad thing and we should all stop taking our meds, "WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!", etc.

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Response to Prophet 451 (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 05:10 AM

8. Like this one?

 

A little less hyperbole, but the gist is implied.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014939462#post6

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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 08:24 AM

9. That's the kind of thing, yeah

There i a school of people who believe that all drugs are bad, mmmkay. And that if someone commits suicide while being on psychiatric drugs, the drugs are to blame when the real answer is often that they committed suicide despite the drugs and the drugs prevented them doing it much earlier. I know personally that I am only alive still due to the large doses of for psychotropics I take daily and teh sometime intervention of my two beloved cats.

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Response to Prophet 451 (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:42 AM

10. Yeah...

 

I've seen the posts and know the type. The same people who claim that all the mass shooting perps were on anti-depressants/anti-psychotics, so it MUST be the anti-depressants/anti-psychotics that made them do that. Completely overlooking the fact that there was a REASON they were on the anti-depressants/anti-psychotics to begin with.

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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 02:29 PM

19. I deal with them all the time

I'm severely mentally ill (as you probably guessed) and I have had just about as much as I can handle of the "stop taking all drugs and think *nice* thoughts instead" crowd. Their bullshit gets people killed. In the absence of meds, my life expectancy drops to days. With them, I'm somewhat functional for some days, as long as I don't have to leave my home or interact with other people in any way.

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Response to Prophet 451 (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 02:43 PM

20. I feel you.

 

I have GAD, and I'm a bit agoraphobic. I have a 9 year old daughter with ASD, and a loving wife. Work is difficult for me. So is driving. I used to be "normal", but something "snapped" in my brain around the time I turned 30, and life has been difficult since. I always feel I'm on the outside looking in on myself.

I spend most of my time playing video games or writing music. One of the FEW times I feel "normal" is when I'm on stage performing music. Of course GETTING to the stage is a huge uphill battle.

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:30 AM

13. "Robin Williams" and "autopsy" don't go well together.

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 01:02 PM

17. Very similar to the stew of drugs in my blood, minus some.



Anyone who thinks I'd be better off without meds is welcome to take me in for the experiment. All I require is an internet connection, some plain food (rice and beans will do; I'll find or grow any other food I need) and somewhere to sleep. For all I care it could be a shack in your backyard and a pile of clean rags.

I'm always ready to reestablish a reputation with some local community as an off-my-meds eccentric but mostly harmless dumpster-diving semi-homeless guy. I may be living in your shack (or not) at various times, or hours, but I might also disappear for weeks at a time and if you are any kind of compassionate person you will wonder if I am dead or held against my will somewhere. Probably not, I'm just wandering, oblivious to clocks and calendars.

My grandfather was a similar sort but his obsessions and compulsions were useful to the Army Air Force during the Second World War, and later the space program including the Apollo Project. (My own obsessions are rarely useful, not in this society.) My grandfather's doctors prescribed amphetamines. He lived 90+ years, so drug abuse obviously wasn't a problem.

It would be interesting to know a little more about him but mental health issues were kept deeply in the closet in past days. Intriguingly, mathematician Paul Erdős used amphetamines too. (That drug has no appeal to me at all. Blechhhhhh.)

The drug warriors always claim drug use is the cause of problems when it's usually the other way around. Sure people can slide down the slippery slope of addiction and abuse, but for the most part drugs are very useful for many sorts of chronic health problems including mental illness.

Nevertheless I think our culture could reduce drug use by being less cruel to people who are different in some way and by treating addiction as an ordinary public health problem.

Robin Williams was taking these meds to keep himself out of some unimaginably terrible mental state. The odds are these drugs didn't put him there, they were simply not working, the same way an antibiotic might not work against some infections, or a few aspirins might not effectively treat some sorts of pain.

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 01:38 PM

18. He had Parkinson's.

 

That's enough to explain why he might not want to go on living. I don't see why it's any of our business what drugs he did or did not have in his body.

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