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Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:31 PM Nov 2014

Reagan apologised to Thatcher for Grenada invasion

Source: Agence France-Presse

Reagan apologised to Thatcher for Grenada invasion
POSTED: 11 Nov 2014 04:35

The US president apologised for any "embarrassment" caused to the British premier, who was not informed in advance about the mission to topple the island state's Marxist government.



LOS ANGELES: Former US president Ronald Reagan personally apologised to Margaret Thatcher when US troops in 1983 secretly invaded Grenada, a Commonwealth island state in the Caribbean, according to newly-released tapes.
The US president apologised for any "embarrassment" caused to the British premier, who was not informed in advance about the mission to topple the island state's Marxist government.

Britain's Queen Elizabeth II is the head of the Commonwealth, a grouping of nations which includes several Caribbean island states such as Grenada.

"We regret very much the embarrassment that's been caused to you," the US leader said during the call in which the famously close leaders referred to each other by their first names.
"If I were there, Margaret I'd throw my hat in the door before I came in," he said to Thatcher, using an old US saying based on a visitor throwing his hat inside a home in case he was unwelcome and it was thrown out. "There's no need for that," Thatcher replied in the 10-minute conversation.

The conversation was disclosed in archive tapes released by the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California. The call was apparently made as the military invasion was still underway. "We think that the military part of it is going to end very shortly," Reagan said at one point.





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Reagan apologised to Thatcher for Grenada invasion (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2014 OP
Excuse my language shenmue Nov 2014 #1
uhhhhhhhhh waddirum Nov 2014 #9
BS, Reagan would never apologize to anybody!! tularetom Nov 2014 #2
I don't think he apologized for the invasion sharp_stick Nov 2014 #3
DUzy shenmue Nov 2014 #7
I watched this classic scene awhile back . . . Damansarajaya Nov 2014 #4
I wonder how Rinsed Penis, McCain, and Lindsay Graham feel about that? George II Nov 2014 #5
They don't care IkeRepublican Nov 2014 #6
Why was this guy apologizing for the US? What a feckless leading from behind candy ass...... nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2014 #8
In spite of all the bluster KinMd Nov 2014 #10
I think you miss the point. elias49 Nov 2014 #11
What would you imagine would explain what happened in Central American during his Presidency? Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #12

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
2. BS, Reagan would never apologize to anybody!!
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:40 PM
Nov 2014

Apologizing is only for wimps like Obama.

I hope this isn't necessary but I don't know anymore, so ---->

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
3. I don't think he apologized for the invasion
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:48 PM
Nov 2014

he just apologized for not telling her that he was going to invade. She of course immediately twittered on about how cool it was.

Weirdest bromance in the history of bromances between those two fruitcakes.

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. I wonder how Rinsed Penis, McCain, and Lindsay Graham feel about that?
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:02 PM
Nov 2014

Throw in Limbaugh and Hannity - after all ALL of them have faulted Obama for being "apologetic".

The fact that none of them said a peep about this just shows us how hypocritical these clowns are.

 

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,848 posts)
8. Why was this guy apologizing for the US? What a feckless leading from behind candy ass...... nt
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:37 PM
Nov 2014

KinMd

(966 posts)
10. In spite of all the bluster
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 11:49 PM
Nov 2014

..Grenada was the only large scaled military action ordered by Reagan.

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
12. What would you imagine would explain what happened in Central American during his Presidency?
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 03:14 AM
Nov 2014

Tales of Reagan’s Guatemala Genocide

April 16, 2013

~snip~

By Robert Parry

The first month of the genocide trial of former Guatemalan dictator Efrain Rios Montt has elicited chilling testimony from Mayan survivors who – as children – watched their families slaughtered by a right-wing military that was supported and supplied by U.S. President Ronald Reagan.

As the New York Times reportedon Monday, “In the tortured logic of military planning documents conceived under Mr. Ríos Montt’s 17-month rule during 1982 and 1983, the entire Mayan Ixil population was a military target, children included. Officers wrote that the leftist guerrillas fighting the government had succeeded in indoctrinating the impoverished Ixils and reached ‘100 percent support.’”

So, everyone was targeted in these scorched-earth campaigns that eradicated more than 600 Indian villages in the Guatemalan highlands. But this genocide was not simply the result of a twisted anticommunist ideology that dominated the Guatemalan military and political elites. This genocide also was endorsed by the Reagan administration.

A document that I discovered recently in the archives of the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California, revealed that Reagan and his national security team in 1981 agreed to supply military aid to the brutal right-wing regime in Guatemala to pursue the goal of exterminating not only “Marxist guerrillas” but people associated with their “civilian support mechanisms.”

This supportive attitude toward the Guatemalan regime’s brutality took shape in spring 1981 as President Reagan sought to ease human-rights restrictions on military aid to Guatemala that had been imposed by President Jimmy Carter and the Democratic-controlled Congress in the late 1970s.

More:
http://consortiumnews.com/2013/04/16/grichilling-tales-of-reagans-guatemala-genocide/

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Ronald Reagan, Enabler of Atrocities

By Robert Parry
February 6, 2011

When you’re listening to the many tributes to President Ronald Reagan, often for his talent making Americans feel better about themselves, you might want to spend a minute thinking about the many atrocities in Latin America and elsewhere that Reagan aided, covered up or shrugged off in his inimitable "aw shucks" manner.

~snip~

Guatemala, of course, was not the only Central American country where Reagan and his administration supported brutal counterinsurgency and paramilitary operations -- and then sought to cover up the bloody facts.

Deception of the American public – a strategy that the administration called “perception management” – was as much a part of Reagan's Central American activities as the Bush administration’s lies and distortions about weapons of mass destruction were to the lead-up to the war in Iraq in 2003.

Reagan's falsification of the historical record became a hallmark of the conflicts in El Salvador and Nicaragua as well as Guatemala. In one case, Reagan personally lashed out at a human rights investigator named Reed Brody, a New York lawyer who had collected affidavits from more than 100 witnesses to atrocities carried out by the U.S.-supported Contras in Nicaragua.

Angered by the revelations about his beloved Contras, Reagan denounced Brody in a speech on April 15, 1985, calling him "one of dictator [Daniel] Ortega's supporters, a sympathizer who has openly embraced Sandinismo."

Privately, Reagan had a far more accurate understanding of the true nature of the Contras. At one point in the Contra war, Reagan turned to CIA official Duane Clarridge and demanded that the Contras be used to destroy some Soviet-supplied helicopters that had arrived in Nicaragua.

Clarridge recalled that "President Reagan pulled me aside and asked, 'Dewey, can't you get those vandals of yours to do this job.'" [See Clarridge's A Spy for All Seasons.]

On Feb. 25, 1999, a Guatemalan truth commission issued a report on the staggering human rights crimes that Reagan and his administration had aided, abetted and concealed.

The Historical Clarification Commission, an independent human rights body, estimated that the Guatemalan conflict claimed the lives of some 200,000 people with the most savage bloodletting occurring in the 1980s.

Based on a review of about 20 percent of the dead, the panel blamed the army for 93 percent of the killings and leftist guerrillas for three percent. Four percent were listed as unresolved.

The report documented that in the 1980s, the army committed 626 massacres against Mayan villages. "The massacres that eliminated entire Mayan villages … are neither perfidious allegations nor figments of the imagination, but an authentic chapter in Guatemala's history," the commission concluded.

More:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2011/020611.html

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In Central America, Reagan Remains A Polarizing Figure

By Kevin Sullivan and Mary Jordan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, June 10, 2004; Page A08

~snip~

The United States was heavily involved in wars in Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala in the 1980s in what Reagan described as an effort to stem Soviet influence in the hemisphere. The United States spent more than $4 billion on economic and military aid during El Salvador's civil war, in which more than 75,000 people were killed, many of them civilians caught in the crossfire.

The United States also organized Nicaragua's contra guerrillas, who fought that country's revolutionary Sandinista government. Reagan referred to contras as "the moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers" and the United States spent $1 billion on them; the fighting in Nicaragua killed as many as 50,000 people. Honduras was a staging ground for U.S. Nicaraguan operations.

Reagan also supported the repressive military dictatorship of Guatemala, where more than 200,000 people, mostly indigenous peasants, died over 36 years of civil strife.

More:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29546-2004Jun9.html

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