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TexasTowelie

(111,938 posts)
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:14 PM Nov 2014

Rick Perry criminal case can proceed, judge rules

Source: Austin American-Statesman

A state district judge refused to throw out the criminal charges against Gov. Rick Perry, ruling Tuesday that special prosecutor Michael McCrum had been properly appointed to the case.

Perry’s legal team argued that the charges must be voided because special prosecutor Michael McCrum did not properly take his oath of office when he began working on the governor’s case, negating every act performed over the past 15 months — including the indictment accusing Perry of abusing the powers of his office.

Senior District Judge Bert Richardson disagreed.

“This court concludes that Mr. McCrum’s authority was not voided by the procedural irregularities in how and when the oath of office … was administered,” Richardson’s order said.

Read more: http://www.statesman.com/news/news/judge-declines-to-toss-out-gov-perry-charges/nh9kk/




Gov. Rick Perry — flanked by his lawyers Tony Buzbee, right, and David Botsford, left — appeared in an Austin courtroom earlier this month to challenge the criminal charges against him.
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Rick Perry criminal case can proceed, judge rules (Original Post) TexasTowelie Nov 2014 OP
Wow, that was the basis of having the suit thrown out? I did enjoy this part: Raine1967 Nov 2014 #1
That is not the legal argument. former9thward Nov 2014 #5
It's pretty thin and pathetic. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #7
I think the prosecution case is nonsense. former9thward Nov 2014 #10
No it will be thrown out on appeal or by the SCOTX Vincardog Nov 2014 #12
Lol. Sez you. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2014 #29
Of course I said it. former9thward Nov 2014 #31
That is really a desperate ploy. louis-t Nov 2014 #2
McCrum was named as a special prosecutor for only the Perry case. TexasTowelie Nov 2014 #14
... 2naSalit Nov 2014 #3
Haha.. too bad for all those "high profile" repubs and dems who were trying to get it thrown out. Cha Nov 2014 #4
The judge has not ruled on those arguments. former9thward Nov 2014 #6
They went with the long shot first, next up they will be whining about constitutionality. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #8
It's relatively easy to smile for a mug shot when arrested, TexasTowelie Nov 2014 #15
Fingers crossed: Jefferson23 Nov 2014 #16
what 3 Stooges movie olddots Nov 2014 #9
I believe it is the firm of... IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 2014 #13
Cheatam, Cumming, & Goins DemoTex Nov 2014 #18
Them Clark Kent glasses lost their mojo Brother Buzz Nov 2014 #11
Kicked, Rec'd, Tweet'd and FB feeded. laserhaas Nov 2014 #17
What a way to live. Lawyers at your side. Looking for loopholes. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2014 #19
Happy, happy, joy, joy! marble falls Nov 2014 #20
grasping at straws to prevent eventual trial. Javaman Nov 2014 #21
Dewy, Cheatham and Howe. n/t PeoViejo Nov 2014 #22
A GOODHAIR and a gratuitous match: UTUSN Nov 2014 #23
Perry's hair cut is out of date Dopers_Greed Nov 2014 #24
Think some in the MSM thought this would be thrown out today PatrynXX Nov 2014 #25
Ah but, Blago's a Euphoria Nov 2014 #27
Yaaaaay shenmue Nov 2014 #26
maybe he and Bob McDonnell can be cellies!! Heather MC Nov 2014 #28
Election is over. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #30
Even if/when he gets off on this, he'll still never be POTUS herding cats Nov 2014 #32

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
1. Wow, that was the basis of having the suit thrown out? I did enjoy this part:
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:22 PM
Nov 2014
What’s more, Richardson ruled, Perry’s lawyers waited too long to raise their objections to the way McCrum was sworn in more than a year ago.

Richardson has yet to rule on a separate, broader challenge arguing that Perry’s charges should be tossed out because they were based on unconstitutional state laws and because they improperly criminalize politics and limit gubernatorial power. A ruling on that issue is still several weeks away.


Let me get this right: The governor's defense team is saying that the state laws are unconstitutional? So perry decided to act on what he perceived as constitutional? If true, that is rich.

former9thward

(31,940 posts)
5. That is not the legal argument.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:41 PM
Nov 2014

The defense argues the laws the prosecution are using are unconstitutional -- not the laws Perry acted on. Two different things.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
7. It's pretty thin and pathetic.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:45 PM
Nov 2014

Especially when the first try to get to first base was thrown out.

They really think the laws are unconstitutional? I smells of a very early hail mary. .

former9thward

(31,940 posts)
10. I think the prosecution case is nonsense.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:58 PM
Nov 2014

I think it will be thrown out as soon as the merits of the case come to court.

louis-t

(23,267 posts)
2. That is really a desperate ploy.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:25 PM
Nov 2014

Maybe Perry thinks every person McCrum prosecuted should be let off, too. Well, that's what he's saying.

TexasTowelie

(111,938 posts)
14. McCrum was named as a special prosecutor for only the Perry case.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:10 PM
Nov 2014

He was a former federal prosecutor; however, I believe that his work over the past few years has been as a defense attorney.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
4. Haha.. too bad for all those "high profile" repubs and dems who were trying to get it thrown out.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:41 PM
Nov 2014

Perry looks kinda miffed. rofl

Mahalo TexasT

former9thward

(31,940 posts)
6. The judge has not ruled on those arguments.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:42 PM
Nov 2014

The judge ruled on a long shot procedural motion which has nothing to do with the merits of the case.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
8. They went with the long shot first, next up they will be whining about constitutionality.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:50 PM
Nov 2014

this does not look like a very strong defense. We'll see.

TexasTowelie

(111,938 posts)
15. It's relatively easy to smile for a mug shot when arrested,
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:16 PM
Nov 2014

it's much tougher to keep the smile up for hours when sitting in defense at court.

Perry will get some more chances to get the case thrown out of court, but I think that the case will proceed to trial. I don't know if there will be any GOP ideologues that will refuse to find Perry guilty though. The fact that the case and deliberations on the jury verdict will take awhile and generate more negative headlines isn't good news for Republicans.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
16. Fingers crossed:
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:21 PM
Nov 2014

snip* Gov. Rick Perry finally appeared in court last week to face charges of abuse-of-power for his veto of funding for the Travis County District Attorney's Public Integrity Unit after D.A. Rosemary Lehmberg refused to resign. Perry's lawyers argued that the charges should be dismissed, for various reasons, including that special prosecutor Michael McCrum was not properly sworn in. This was the first hearing that required Perry's personal attendance, and he was defiant afterward, defending his veto as breaking no laws. McCrum asked that Judge Bert Richardson allow the case to proceed to trial; Richardson is expected to rule this week. Texans for Public Justice, the watchdog group that filed the original complaint against Perry, released a statement on the hearing: "[Perry's] lawyers served up a windbag of bluster and a platter of red herring to a Republican judge who didn't appear to buy it."

http://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2014-11-10/news-roundup-lines-trials-and-schools/

lol, time will tell.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,075 posts)
13. I believe it is the firm of...
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:08 PM
Nov 2014

... Winkin, Blinkin and Nod, LLC, or something like that. Or was it, Wee, Cheatem and Howe?

Javaman

(62,503 posts)
21. grasping at straws to prevent eventual trial.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 10:39 AM
Nov 2014

and oh the juicy-ness of the things we will hear.

this won't be pleasant at all for good old cement head perry.

and that's just fine with me.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
24. Perry's hair cut is out of date
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:37 PM
Nov 2014

Hipsters are now doing the "Hitler youth" fade. Not the "side comb" anymore, like Perry still has.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
25. Think some in the MSM thought this would be thrown out today
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 06:29 PM
Nov 2014

Oops. Blago calling Perry. and what Blago did is minor and he got what 10 years. minor akin to this. selling a seat isn't minor but compared to shit it's minor

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
32. Even if/when he gets off on this, he'll still never be POTUS
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:48 AM
Nov 2014

Why people throw good money after bad rubbish like him in a presidential race is a mystery to me. The reality is his chances are so slim it's laughable, and yet he has wealthy donors tossing money at him as if he actually has a chance. It's mind boggling.

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