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Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:21 AM

 

Democrats, stung by low turnout, consider shifting Florida's election schedule

Source: Tampa Bay Times

TALLAHASSEE After yet another defeat blamed on low voter turnout, some Florida Democrats want to change the rules and elect the governor in the same year voters pick the president when turnout is always much higher.

In the aftermath of Charlie Crist's narrow loss to Gov. Rick Scott, strategists are plotting how to put an initiative on the 2016 ballot that would shift statewide races back to presidential years, as they were in Florida until 1964.

"Our state leaders should be elected by the greatest number of people," said Ben Pollara, a Miami strategist who worked on the medical marijuana campaign. "How can you argue that having fewer people participate in the political process is good for the state?"

Crist adviser Kevin Cate wrote an opinion column, which got picked up by liberal blog the Daily Kos, in favor of shifting statewide elections. It launched an online petition that argues: "More Floridians deserve to have their voice heard." Backers have sought legal guidance from Jon Mills, dean of the University of Florida law school and a former House speaker, who also worked on the medical marijuana campaign.

The 2014 election was the first Florida midterm in which 6 million people cast ballots, but that figure pales in comparison to the 8.5 million who voted in the 2012 presidential election in Florida.

Read more: http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/stung-by-low-turnout-democrats-eye-shifting-floridas-statewide-election/2208133



It does not change the fact that people did not like either candidate very much, and the democratic party forced Crist on the voters. Along with that, the republicans said they would flat out not vote for him. This race was doomed from the get go....

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TheNutcracker Nov 2014 OP
TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #1
wordpix Nov 2014 #23
DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #2
TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #3
1000words Nov 2014 #4
SoapBox Nov 2014 #5
rpannier Nov 2014 #6
MBS Nov 2014 #22
blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #7
HockeyMom Nov 2014 #13
Ken Burch Nov 2014 #8
Ken Burch Nov 2014 #9
secondvariety Nov 2014 #10
Scuba Nov 2014 #11
TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #18
Odin2005 Nov 2014 #12
jtuck004 Nov 2014 #14
dicksmc3 Nov 2014 #15
PeoViejo Nov 2014 #16
kickysnana Nov 2014 #17
jeff47 Nov 2014 #19
jambo101 Nov 2014 #20
Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #21
joshcryer Nov 2014 #24

Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:22 AM

1. They want to change the race for governor to the year that voters choose a president.

 

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Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 06:59 PM

23. may be good idea but defeats nationwide should analyze mistakes such as

1) Dems did not want O to campaign, which would have charged up/brought out more Afr. American Dem voters
2) Dems refused to do what O did after the campaign on immigration, which would have brought more Hispanic voters out
3) Dems did not talk about rise in stock market, increase in jobs, drop in unemployment and improvement in economy overall
4) Dems did not talk about gun control at a time when mass murder is going on weekly
5) Dems did not talk about O's success in coalition building in dealing with Mideast terrorists
6) Dems did not talk about environmental improvement such as increase in solar installments and national lands preserved
7) Dems did not talk about the ACA, which has increased the no. of people who are now insured and ended the "you've-got-a-pre-existing-condition-thus-we-won't-insure-you" strategy of the insurance cos.

etc etc.

In short, Dems ran away from their accomplishments and Obama's. Terrible campaign and now we all have to pay for it.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:34 AM

2. sigh

It's not that there is not some point to this, but let's face it, The Florida democratic party has nominated two people that were barely to the left of Reagan, who both lost by one percent, in dusputed elections, who both conceded before the catered food got cold. Add to the fact that Debbie Wasserman Schultz was useless as usual, and you have a mess. The only good thign is that instead of saving money for the Hillary Clinton campaign (which is what a lot of Florida Pumas did) maybe the party might try to organize, but I doubt it,.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:45 AM

3. Pretty much what I put in the comment section below the article. Changing schedule, changes nothing.

 

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Response to 1000words (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 04:01 AM

5. + a bazillion

Could they get any dumber?!?

Oh.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 05:13 AM

6. Change the date, not the message

That oughta work wonders

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Response to rpannier (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:25 AM

22. " " " " n/t

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 05:22 AM

7. Crist is/was always a Republican. So, little or no choice. GOP or GOP-lite.

 

And that's what's WRONG with today's Democratic Party. Too many infiltrators, posers, fair weather "friends," sell-out Third Way wolves in sheep's clothing. And they want us to believe these tepid old school Republicans are the best the Party can do, all the while constantly seeking approval from the lunatics in the GOP, and helping move the nation further and further to the right, constantly seeking 1-way "bi-partisanship" that the GOP NEVER EVER returns...The Democratic Party has ceased to fool anybody with 2 eyes and a brain to their rightist agenda, bankrolled by the 1%!

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 09:26 AM

13. Alex Sink

 

Well, she was certainly a Democrat and lost by less than 1%. How much did Crist lose by? Don't you think maybe something is very fishy here? Neither wanted a recount?

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:40 AM

8. And they're gonna do that HOW....?

 

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:42 AM

9. If they really want to WIN, they should create a message

 

that appeals to Florida's rainbow. They're never going to get finicky 'burb voters who care more about "low taxes" than anything else.

You leave the base to rot, the base isn't going to show up. And you're never going to get enough voters who look down on the base to make up for that.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:32 AM

10. Well,

Florida Democrats can want in one hand and poop in the other and see which one fills up first. They are never going to get anything through a GOP led legislature that smells even remotely like it would benefit anyone but the GOP - no matter how many names are on a petition.

I suppose they could go the Constitutional Amendment route, but the FDP would find some way to screw it up.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:54 AM

11. Let's try anything but policies that help people.

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 12:57 PM

18. Exactly! Only special interests are at the table, regardless of 'party'

 

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 09:10 AM

12. Typical DLC logic.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 09:59 AM

14. Well, sure, one always votes for the party with the best schedule. like, duh. n/t

 

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 10:17 AM

15. Try standing up for a Democratic Platform

Maybe if these so-called Democrats would come out with a standard platform like minimum wage increase, corporate tax reform, and show support for the president who has been able to get a few things through Congress without the obstructionism, they just might get the people out and vote for them.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 10:23 AM

16. Ferguson protests didn't have a low turnout

 

Perhaps the Democratic Non-Leadership should take a hint.

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 11:56 AM

17. Huh? Paging Dean. Please explain what happened to the fellows in charge now.

If the Justice Department does nothing about Fergeson and I have no doubt they will do nothing, they just lost another half of the votes they thought they could count on no matter what.

How can there be such a disconnect from reality?

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:01 PM

19. How about GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO VOTE FOR YOU FUCKING MORONS. (nt)

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 06:55 AM

20. Majority rules

If Democrats didnt want Rick Scott to win they should have got off their butts and gone and voted for Crist.Bit late now to be lamenting the loss, just keep it in mind for the big election in 2016.

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Response to jambo101 (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:22 AM

21. Third-Way corporatist "Democrats"

have been flinging the, "Shut up and vote" meme for years now. Tell me, how's that been workin' out for ya?

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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:20 PM

24. ITT denial about turnout.

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