Multiple people stabbed on Amtrak train from Chicago to Port Huron

[LovingA2andMI]

Source: Channel 7 Action News - Detroit

"NILES, Mich. (WXYZ) - The Niles Police Department confirms to 7 Action News multiple people have been stabbed aboard an Amtrak train. The train was headed from Chicago to Port Huron.

Police say four people were stabbed, including the conductor. One man from Saginaw is in custody.

It happened at the train station in Niles about 7 p.m. Amtrak says Train 364 was where is happened, and 172 people were on board.

Niles is on the southwest side of the state, about 10 miles north of South Bend, Indiana."

Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/news/multiple-people-stabbed-on-amtrak-train-in-michigan

[Agschmid]

1. Yipes!

I hope they all get the care they need!

[LovingA2andMI]

6. Indeed....

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And we love Train Travel. The downside to this riding on Amtrak will soon require taking your shoes off and being nearly X-Rayed to the point of TSA nudity like in a Airport .

Thanks whoever idiot Suspect was for likely ruining what is the peaceful and less stressful ride of the Amtrak Wolverine Route.

[mia]

11. In South Florida

Homeless people travel back and forth on the lower levels of the Amtrak train. I guess that's where they live.

[JDPriestly]

12. I travel on Amtrak in California. The lower level is for seniors and disabled people.

Rarely do I see anyone who looks homeless. Almost never, and I travel quite often.

In fact, Amtrak travel is not cheap, and the tickets are always checked. For seniors, it is over $25 one-way between Los Angeles and San Diego. I don't think homeless people pay that just to sit on a train.

I wonder whether seniors look homeless to some young people.

[LovingA2andMI]

13. Agreed!!

As a frequent consumer of train travel with Amtrak, I have never seen the "homeless people" at the lower level of these trains. Elderly, Seniors -- Yes. Homeless --- No.

Suggestion: We need to watch what we stay about folks and how others perceive it. In this case, folks like myself that love Amtrak would perceive this unverified statement of homeless folks on the lower level of Amtrak trains, very negatively.

[JDPriestly]

16. Lots of babysitting grandmas on the lower leve. I can vouch for that. I talk to people a lot.

[Le Taz Hot]

22. I also travel Amtrak in California.

Amtrak San Joaquin as a matter of fact. I, too, have never seen a homeless person on the train and you're right. The lower levels are for seniors and disabled.

I do disagree with you on the price. I can go from Fresno to Van Nuys round trip for about $83.00. If I drove my truck, it would be twice that (F150 gas hog).

I've also never had a bad experience on Amtrak wherein a good experience on an airline is a rarity and I get to pay 3 times the price for the privilege.

[JDPriestly]

23. So right about the ease of rail travel and the discomfort of cramped, stifling air travel.

[WhiteTara]

2. Wow! Just last night my sweetie and I were just saying how fun

train travel could be because of the great scenery on certain routes...now even that is spoiled.

[Applan]

3. Thank goodness he didn't have a gun

NT

[littlemissmartypants]

4. If the route is tortuous with nothing but concrete sound barriers for scenery

I might be able to understand the frustration, but it's a little bit of an overreaction, methinks.





j/k




clearly

[LiberalElite]

5. cue the gun nuts saying

let's ban knives.

[Skittles]

7. it's how stupid people think

[LiberalElite]

8. But, they think they're

being clever.

[Skittles]

10. that's part of being stupid

[hack89]

14. No. We leave that to British doctors associations

Bans are popular there for some reason.

[Darb]

15. Say it! Go ahead, I know you want to, say it!

"We should ban knives!!!!!!!!"

I think a more appropriate comment would be, "thank god he chose a knife and not a 9MM with a big dick clip".

[hack89]

17. Since guns will never be banned

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Why should I give a rat's ass about banning knives? Granted, they do kill a lot more people than assault weapons but even then there are others ways to keep violent crime rates steadily declining.

[Darb]

18. Isn't that the typically unfunny retort from the gun hoarders

every time another weapon is used to kill (actually, it seems more like injure) a number of people at one time without interruption until mucho damage has been done? To say things like, "We should ban cars then", or some other nonsensical bullshit like what I could easily find in the comment section of an online report about this knife incident?

Thanks for the usual gun hoarder obtuseness and games.

Banned? Probably not, but we will drastically limit the ridiculous state of affairs that is today's reality. Believe that.

[hack89]

19. I view such comments the same way I view comments like "gun humpers" or any penis reference

there are immature and childish views on both sides of the issue.

Drastically limit? Come talk to me when you regain all the ground you lost after your last "victory" (ie the 1994 AWB). Gun control is a smoking ruin in America - without the financial help of a certain republican billionaire it would be non-existent.

[JanMichael]

20. name your source, please

and post stats- with the source.

Thank you

[hack89]

21. The FBI

Google their annual crime report.

[JanMichael]

24. No.

you are the poster. You need to provide your link. Thank you.

[hack89]

25. Ok.

Do you actually think violent crime has been increasing? Would you be shocked to know we have cut our murder rate in half in the past 20 years?

[JanMichael]

27. link

I am happy to read your "opinion." Now back it up. Thank you.

[hack89]

28. I will in a couple of hours

When I can get to my PC.

So what is your opinion? Do you think I will be able to back it up?

[hack89]

29. You could also look at post 26. nt

[JanMichael]

30. OR

you could just repost it. really. This is a forum. Not all of us want to "go back" and "look stuff up" when we read. Back your shit up, or don't post.

[hack89]

31. I am on a old phone

You seem out of sorts and high maintenance so I want to make sure you don't feel ignored. Besides it will make my links even more satisfying when you disappear with no comment.

[JanMichael]

32. "high maintenance"

Oh, you poor pumpkin- on an "old phone."

I see how you are having trouble backing up your claims. Yes- I get it now.

[hack89]

33. You really think I can't?

Anti gun people are usually ignorant of basic crime stats - they get in the way of their emotion based "logic". Simple question before I post my links - do you think I can't back up my assertions?

[Duckhunter935]

34. Too lazy to look at a post in this thread

WOW

[hack89]

35. You know they Googled it themselves

That is why they won't answer a simple question as to what the think the answer will be.

[NYC_SKP]

37. Googled it, found out you were right, now nothing but crickets. (Some data)

Yet manages to post several complaints about the lack of a link.

Weapons......................................2007.............2008.............2009.............2010.............2011

Total.........................................14,916.............14,224.............13,752.............13,164.............12,664

Total firearms:...........................10,129.............9,528.............9,199.............8,874.............8,583
Handguns....................................7,398.............6,800.............6,501.............6,115.............6,220
Rifles..........................................453................380................351................367................323
Shotguns.......................................457................442................423................366................356
Other guns....................................116................81................96................93................97
Firearms, type not stated.............1,705.............1,825.............1,828.............1,933.............1,587
Knives or cutting instruments...1,817.............1,888.............1,836.............1,732.............1,694

[JanMichael]

40. Bogus. Selective stats. #1 - There has been a huge decrease in gun death since 1993. HUGE.

Period - and there were 11,101 Firearm-related homicides in 2011. Not 8500. Selective phrasing may make that happen but data is rolling now in the ACS world. Best bet now is a higher rate than 2007.

And numbers have dropped since 1993 from just under 18k to the current rates. That is a result of demographic trends, policies, aging population, and controls. Minimal percentage changes in a 4 year window don't mean anything. Freakonomics might be a good start.

[NYC_SKP]

41. I don't give a shit what you think. Got a problem with the numbers? Take it up with the FBI

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

FBI and BJS numbers don't match?

Not my problem.

[JanMichael]

42. Then we are at an agreement. I do not give a shit about what you think either.

Not my problem. If you cannot comprehend 20 year intervals then there is no helping you. I am finished.

And no I don't give shit what you say or think because it is biased and ignorant.

[Duckhunter935]

26. Rifles are not commonly used

for murder

just remember, "assault weapons" are a subset of rifle so they would be used even less for murder.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-20/table_20_murder_by_state_types_of_weapons_2013.xls

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-12/table_12_crime_trends_by_population_group_2012-2013.xls

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-13/table_13_crime_trends_by_suburban_and_nonsuburban_cities_2012-2013.xls

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-14/table_14_crime_trends_by_metropolitan_and_nonmetropolitan_counties_2012-2013.xls

[hack89]

38. 1490 knife murders in 2013 vice 285 rifle murders

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2009-2013.xls

[hack89]

39. Table showing a steady 20 year decline in all violent crimes

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/1tabledatadecoverviewpdf/table_1_crime_in_the_united_states_by_volume_and_rate_per_100000_inhabitants_1994-2013.xls

[mia]

9. Fear of traveling anywhere

I'm glad I'm home - so sorry for the victims of this horrific event.

[christx30]

36. Wow...

And on the same day this happened:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014959037