Congresswoman: If Not For Obamacare Glitches, My Husband Might Still Be Alive
Source: Huffington Post
WASHINGTON -- Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.) suggested Tuesday that had her husband not encountered difficulties enrolling in health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, he might still be alive today.
Alvin Wiederspahn, a former Democratic member of the Wyoming state House, died in October of a heart attack in his sleep. He was 65. Lummis recounted the experience to Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Administrator Marilyn B. Tavenner, who was called to testify before the House Oversight Committee on transparency issues regarding the Affordable Care Act. The Wyoming Republican said that even though her husband was enrolled for insurance in the D.C. health insurance exchange, "when we filed claims, we were told we were not enrolled in Obamacare." The couple filed claims once more, Lummis said, and once again they were told they were not enrolled.
"My husband was having chest pains at the time that he was told we were not enrolled in Obamacare, and come to find out, he didn't have all of the tests that he was advised by his physician to have," said Lummis. "So on October 24, a week before the election, my husband went to sleep and never woke up."
Lummis said that her husband had chosen to forgo a test prescribed by his doctor -- a decision, she said, that was partly due to the confusion over his enrollment status. "I'm not telling you that my husband died because of Obamacare," she said. "He died because he had a massive heart attack in his sleep. But I am telling you that during the course of time that he was having tests by a physician and was told we were not covered by Obamacare, that he then decided not to have the last test the doctor asked him to have."
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/09/cynthia-lummis-husband-obamacare_n_6296920.html
UPDATE: I call BS. Not only did her husband, despite chest pains, decide not to get the tests even when the doctor actually prescribed them but according to this she's filthy rich--worth $20 million+. And yet they wait for their insurance to get cleared up to follow the doctor's orders?
On her using her husband's death in a grandstanding display less than two months after he died, no comment. She should look in the mirror if she wants to cast blame. Miser of the year award?
marym625
(17,997 posts)First, I thought this had been debunked already.
Two, who calls their insurance Obamacare when discussing with physician or hospital billing people?
uhnope
(6,419 posts)$20 million according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Lummis#Personal_life
and yet they wait for their insurance to get cleared up to get heart tests while he's having chest pains?
Buuulllll Shhhhhhhit
marym625
(17,997 posts)Warpy
(114,582 posts)if her husband is having chest pain? If she wanted free care, why hadn't he gotten his Medicare card? Hint: you can apply for it a couple of months in advance of your birthday.
This whole story stinks to high heaven of Republican horseshit.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,433 posts)You don't even have to apply for Medicare...you're automatically enrolled at 65. All you have to do is tell them if you want just Part A (which is free and covers hospitalization, etc.) or both A & B. You have to pay for Part B, but as insurance goes, it's pretty damn inexpensive. Since I still work, and have great insurance at work, I chose just Part A for now, and will start Part B when I retire in June.
So if this guy was 65, he was already insured. This is typical Republican bullshit, just like Death Panels and everything else they came up with fighting this program. Plus, of course, the whole "worth $20 million" part. What kind of person sits on that kind of money while their spouse is sick? Greedy, Republican assholes, that's who.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)select an insurance company out of all the options and we then give that information to the doctor.
elleng
(141,926 posts)She 'pretended' she wasn't blaming Obamacare.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Last edited Wed Dec 10, 2014, 06:24 AM - Edit history (1)
plan. I'm sorry he died, but it wasn't related to Obama care.
INdemo
(7,024 posts)when applying for ACA insurance it would probably be denied. Besides that, the very best supplement plan in addition to Medicare would probably be less than $200.00 at age 65.If applying for a supplement plan between the allowable time frame (Oct-Dec7) medical history does not affect the coverage or premium.
This is typically a Republican story this woman was hoping to get on Faux news and all the right wing papers. That is all this about.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Something is definitely off kilter with this narrative.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Members of Congress are required to get their health insurance from the Obamacare exchanges under a part of the law authored by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). Previously, lawmakers had received the same health benefits as federal employees.
But to me the pertinent detail is her being worth $20 million but her suffering husband waits to follow doctor's orders so that insurance can pay for it? WTF?
Roland99
(53,345 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)she withheld medical proceedures she could afford, in some places that constitutes neglect.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Couldn't spring for a Doctor's appointment and get it cleared up later?
This ring less true than any fairy tale I heard as a kid.
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merrily
(45,251 posts)Still, it's not as though she's some anonymous factory worker with limited knowledge of English with no ability to get this sorted out. Someone in Congress from her state would have taken her call.
alp227
(33,271 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Kennah
(14,578 posts)With a net work of $20 to $75 million, they could have afforded to pay for a fucking heart transplant had that been needed, but they chose not to pay for a test. They were more worried about their loss of tuppence, and tuppence is tuppence.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I believe her husband died.+ What happened before that, I have no clue, but I am not buying this story.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)With single payer, everyone is enrolled. The doctors get paid if you use their services.
Nobody gets denied services on the ground that they aren't insured.
Her story is unbelievable if she is worth anything close to $20 million. Even if she is only worth $1 million or far, far less, she should have made sure her husband got healthcare and then worried about paying for it later.
This story does not sound true. I cannot believe that a hospital wouldt turn away a person who is having a heart attack over money or lack of insurance, especially not someone fairly prominent. Hospitals are required to provide emergency care, I believe.
Let's tell her.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Die unnecessarily so that a few can become even more filthy rich.
She's lovely.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)cstanleytech
(28,457 posts)to milk his death for political gain by blaming Obamacare and look in a mirror for the reason imo.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)Roland99
(53,345 posts)Jul 2012
http://kgab.com/house-votes-to-repeal-aca/
Rep. Lummis says By repealing Obamacare, we can improve the deficit picture and free the nation from the mother of all baits and switchesthe individual mandate tax. The now advances to the Senate where experts say it is doomed.
Hmmmmm.....
Roland99
(53,345 posts)Mar 2012
http://lummis.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=286479
Today was another crucial step towards repealing Obama Care in favor of common sense, affordable solutions. The Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB) consists of unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats dictating cuts to Medicare but more importantly, determining Medicare patients access to treatment and care.
Im pleased that my house colleagues were able to see the necessity of IPABs repeal, and that together we worked towards a better, fairer future for Americas seniors.
Hmmmmm....
Roland99
(53,345 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Typical Republican..
woodsprite
(12,582 posts)OR surgury, etc., I would do it in a flash without thinking twice. Apparently she didn't feel the same about her husband. Sounds a bit like a Leona Helmsley to me..
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)IronLionZion
(51,203 posts)and she should definitely hold 50 more votes to repeal.
Botany
(77,254 posts)Congress people and their families have very good insurance, he didn't get the test
he was told to by his doctor, and he was having chest pains and didn't go to the hospital
but all this is Obama's fault?
Arkana
(24,347 posts)bigworld
(1,813 posts)You're not enrolled in a plan called Obamacare, you're enrolled in a private insurance plan that is regulated by "Obamacare."
There are so many dumb rightwingers out there who think that "Obamacare" is some sort of nationalized NHS-type health care plan.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)JohnnyRingo
(20,854 posts)On one hand she claims the ACA would have saved her husband's life had it been properly implemented in timely fashion, and on the other she does everything she legally can to stall or sabotage said implementation.
Since opposition has been unanimous within her party, I'm sure she's voted dozens of times to repeal the very care that she now claims would have saved her husband's life. It's all moot anyway because she knows better. Lummis has just found an imaginative way to bash the president by using her dead husband's body as a political prop. That's low, but but so is her party's standard of decency these days.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)never becomes a reality in the US.
Skittles
(171,556 posts)never, EVER think repukes "can't sink any lower" - I ASSURE YOU THEY WILL FIND A WAY
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)evidence that their forces sodomized Iraqi children in front of their parents to induce those parents to turn against the Iraqi Resistance from 2003 -06. Stay tuned - Dec. 12 is some sort of drop-dead date by which the full set of Abu Ghraib photos have to be released or the Justice Dept has to provide a photo-by-photo rationale why they can't be. (This is the culmination of an ACLU FIOA case seeking release of all Abu Ghraib photos).
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)God, just when you think they cannot sink any lower.