Cleveland police union president: ...Justice for Tamir Rice shirt 'disrespectful'
Source: Plain Dealer
CLEVELAND, Ohio The Cleveland police union president said on Sunday that Browns wide receiver Andrew Hawkins' "Justice for Tamir Rice" shirt is "pathetic."
Jeff Follmer said on Sunday that Hawkins' shirt was disrespectful and demanded an apology from the Browns.
Hawkins wore a shirt that said "Justice for Tamir Rice and John Crawford" on the front and "The Real Battle for Ohio" on the back during pre-game warm-ups before the Browns home game against the Cincinnati Bengals at FirstEnergy Stadium.
"He's an athlete. He's someone with no facts of the case whatsoever," Follmer said. "He's disrespecting the police on a job that we had to do and make a split-second decision."
Read more: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/12/cleveland_police_union_preside_1.html
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)is disrespectful and can STFU. FTP until they stop being the lackeys of the 1%.
gordianot
(15,242 posts)When politicians and law enforcement object to "justice" Government has a serious problem it appears America is NOT a nation of laws and is not concerned about justice. It seems every day we are put on notice. Disrespect is a logical consequence.
duhneece
(4,116 posts)Historic NY
(37,452 posts)union menber in the first place.
vlakitti
(401 posts)This honcho cop guy Jeff Follmer needs to be replaced or fired or gotten rid of. He and his cohorts are an embarrassment to the union movement, which nowadays means cover up of police brutality. Which is not the point of unions.
And this is in Cleveland? Didn't the Justice Department have something wholly scathing to say recently about Cleveland's long time history of police brutality?
The cops need to change, not the people criticizing them or protesting cop violence....
riversedge
(70,282 posts)DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Right after she buries her dead child.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Do these assholes really think they are deserving of any respect at all?
Here is a tip for officers. You can't demand respect and you don't earn it through fear and intimidation.
Your jobs are to serve and protect, not to demand respect.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)said about the actions of the Rams players a few weeks ago.
I think there is this thing called the first amendment and everyone has a right to their opinion and to express themselves, but maybe I missed something........
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)The implications of Follmer's statements are that videos of the shooting, and police statements amount to "no facts of the case whatsoever", and that citizens are disrespectful if they do anything other than trust that the police always do the right thing, and that all the "facts of the case whatsoever" is the business of the police and not the business of the public, whose role is to let the police "do their job".
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)And there lies the problem, they made the wrong decision because the placed themselves in the wrong position. They should have stood back and observed the situation instead of rushing in without assessing the situation first. They should at least be terminated for poor judgment then assessed for their performance. My not split-second assessment? At least manslaughter for the shooter and reckless endangerment for the driver.
The people you are defending killed an innocent child because they used poor judgment, please let us know the reasoning you are using for defending them.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Instead of barreling in 20 feet from the kid and rolling out of the car with guns pulled, panicking the kid and pretty much guaranteeing that he would not immediately comply with ANY order, because he's fucking PANICKED, how about pulling up 100 yards, or even just 50 yards away and using the PA system to order the kid to drop the "gun."
Fuck wits.
Same with Crawford. I saw the video, they gave him NO time to comply.
In neither case was anyone else in even the appearance of immediate danger.
These deaths fall squarely on the shoulders of the cops. I'm fucking SICK of it.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Gunning down a 12 year old kid, giving him no chance to respond.
Fuck these idiots.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Is it because he is an athlete or because he is black? If the hood fits Mr. Follmer....
Buenaventura
(364 posts)The pigs are always the first ones on the scene with their billyclubs and shotguns when real workers organize. Follmer can STFU.
JDDavis
(725 posts)the semi-auto weapons, and body armor, and all the support of the government...
it amazes me that these are the people who claim someone else's "free speech" somehow "disrespects" them and hurts these law enforcement folks' feelings.
If you're in a profession where you cannot temper your emotions, cannot take the "heat" of the job, you're in the wrong profession. It would be like a school teacher who hates kids, a nurse who can't stand the sight of blood, or a baker who hates to cook.
CanonRay
(14,112 posts)Now that is insane.
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)with this shirt all he wants but, thanks to the 1st Amendment to the Constitution, Mr. Hawkins has every right to wear it. Sorry Follmer, you loose. Perhaps you might want to re-read the Constitution and the Amendments to see what other rights we have.
sinkingfeeling
(51,470 posts)Right now, nobody likes you or respects you. Keep talking and you make matters worse.
samsingh
(17,600 posts)some members of the police are pathetic and should not have their jobs
some even deserve to be in prison
samsingh
(17,600 posts)killing people when lesser force would be sufficient.
if they were series about policing properly. unfortunately, policing seems to be about their own perqs and crazies who like to kill minorities or misuse their power.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)America is sick and tired of police constantly lashing out at people like society is an enemy.
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DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Learn how to do your job, and in the meantime, keep your fucking mouth shut.
I do hope that conveys the amount of respect I feel.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,586 posts)the police don't like being held to a account for their actions......
davsand
(13,421 posts)The very fact that the police union is attempting to silence a protester speaks volumes about how highly they value constitutionally protected rights. Complaining about outrage at the murder of a child also speaks loudly of the institutional lack of value placed on human life.
Laura
Catherine Vincent
(34,491 posts)Even if he killed a 12 year old.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Each Other Only!
Assholes.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)I don't respect murderers.
Love,
Brigid
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Hockey Dad
(70 posts)A member of your (Soviet?) Union gunning down a little boy IMMEDIATELY he arrives at the child's location is disrespectful, you FUCKING IDIOT!