Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:20 PM
Fred Sanders (23,946 posts)
Man Convicted in German Exchange Student's Killing
Source: AP
MISSOULA, Mont. (AP) — A Montana man who shot and killed a German exchange student caught trespassing in his garage was convicted of deliberate homicide Wednesday despite arguing that a state "castle doctrine" law allowed him to use deadly force to protect his home and family. Cheers erupted in the packed courtroom when the verdict in the case of Markus Kaarma, 30, was read. The parents of the victim, 17-year-old Diren Dede, hugged and cried. "It is very good," Dede's father, Celal Dede, said with tears in his eyes. "Long live justice". ...................... At a hearing Thursday, Diren Dede's parents will give statements to the judge to consider at sentencing. Prosecutors asked for the hearing so Celal and Gulcin Dede won't have to return to Missoula in February. Kaarma shot Dede in the early hours of April 27 after being alerted to an intruder by motion sensors. Witnesses testified Kaarma fired four shotgun blasts at Dede, who was unarmed. Kaarma's attorneys argued at trial that he feared for his life, didn't know if the intruder was armed, and was on edge because his garage was burglarized at least once in the weeks before the shooting. They said Kaarma's actions were justifiable because he feared for his family's safety. Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Deliberations-resume-in-exchange-student-killing-5962189.php The "Castle doctrine" was actually applied, the absolute defence of justification was rejected, the part about the defense of your "castle" has to be reasonable, using deadly force has to be justified. Four shot gun blasts at the unarmed "intruder". Not reasonable. Good to know there is still Justice in the world.
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Fred Sanders | Dec 2014 | OP |
heaven05 | Dec 2014 | #1 | |
Politicalboi | Dec 2014 | #2 | |
csziggy | Dec 2014 | #3 | |
cosmicone | Dec 2014 | #4 | |
nomorenomore08 | Dec 2014 | #5 | |
burrowowl | Dec 2014 | #6 | |
Judi Lynn | Dec 2014 | #7 | |
Feral Child | Dec 2014 | #8 |
Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:23 PM
heaven05 (18,124 posts)
1. justice for some
is still available....true
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Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:25 PM
Politicalboi (15,189 posts)
2. Instant Kaarma
If only he were a cop, it would be justified.
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Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:58 PM
csziggy (33,806 posts)
3. It also wasn't reasonable that he used his garage for a trap
To lure in whoever had burglarized it before. If he were afraid, he should have locked it up and not left the door wide open.
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Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:05 PM
cosmicone (11,014 posts)
4. Now if we can convict George Zimmerman
we can keep them in the same cell and they can spend a long long time together.
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Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:33 PM
nomorenomore08 (13,324 posts)
5. Michael Dunn and that psycho in Michigan (forgot his name already) are serving life as well.
For all the blatant injustices we see, sometimes the court system actually gets things right.
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Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:11 AM
burrowowl (16,676 posts)
6. Good!
Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 03:25 AM
Judi Lynn (156,092 posts)
7. Such good news. We needed to see this. Thank you. n/t
Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 10:31 AM
Feral Child (2,086 posts)