Protester in St. Louis area charged with arson
Source: The Associated Press
Dec. 27, 2014 3:49 PM EST
CLAYTON, Mo. (AP) A protester who advocated for peaceful demonstrations in Ferguson has been charged with setting fire to a convenience store in a neighboring suburb.
A St. Louis County jail official said 19-year-old Joshua Williams was being held Saturday on $30,000 bond on charges that included arson.
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports media outlets and store surveillance captured images of a man trying to set a pile of wood on fire early Wednesday outside a QuikTrip in Berkeley. Charges filed Saturday said Williams confessed in a videotaped interview.
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/487e1ec66d334f12a7471966f03a088b/protester-st-louis-area-charged-arson
Edited: Apparently, memories are short, here. Cops gunning people down left and right is, I would submit, a greater problem in this country than what this teenager allegedly did.
ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)Ryan Fitzomething
(139 posts)Perhaps that last word might be bracketed by quotation marks?
ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)their Chicago police scandals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Burge (Emphasis added)
Or maybe they handled Williams Rampart Division C.R.A.S.H.-style:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal (Emphasis added)
Ace Rothstein
(3,144 posts)We'll find out at his trial.
George II
(67,782 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)on a dime. And police became paragons of enlightenment.
Whoops!
Baca's troubles began three years ago, when the ACLU and clergy groups began sounding the alarm about rampant abuse in the jails. In 2011, the ACLU issued a report citing testimony of numerous jail chaplains who recounted excessive violence meted out against inmates. The ACLU said Baca had turned a blind eye to the abuse, and called on him to resign.
The L.A. Times and other media outlets published a series of reports on jail violence, and the FBI also launched its own investigation. The county Board of Supervisors created a citizens' commission to investigate the claims. The commission's report, issued in 2012, was damning of Baca's leadership, stating that if he were a CEO, he would have been fired. The report also blamed much of the violence on a culture of poor accountability fostered in large measure by Undersheriff Paul Tanaka. The report recommended that Tanaka be removed from command of the jail system.
http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2014/01/07/plagued-by-scandal-sheriff-lee-baca-resigns-to-avoid-bruising-re-election-battle
George II
(67,782 posts)I'm sure the police staged the surveillance video too?
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)That makes 3, I guess.
3 too many, don't you think?
George II
(67,782 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)maybe he hoped that by confessing, he would get a lighter sentence.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,167 posts)That sounds appropriate, since he set the place on fire.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Thanks for pointing that out.
George II
(67,782 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)understand your equivalencies?
The guy tried to deliberately set fire to a business and cause damage along with the potential for greater damage and possible injury.
BTW the QuikTrip is still closed, I drove by it about an hour ago, so they are also losing business and the employees are most likely losing hours.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)St. Louis County police arrested Joshua Williams, 19, of St. Louis, on Friday after several local media outlets and store surveillance captured images of him trying to set a pile of wood on fire outside the QuikTrip on North Hanley Road early Wednesday.
Williams confessed to setting fires at the store in a videotaped interview, according to court documents.
Police say Williams entered the QuikTrip shortly after looters shattered its glass doors during protests of the death of Antonio Martin, 18, who a police officer had shot earlier at the Mobil on the Run store across the street. Surveillance footage from the Mobil store shows Martin point what police say is a gun at a Berkeley officer before the officer fatally shoots him.
Williams can be seen in videos both inside and outside the looted QuikTrip, authorities said.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/protester-who-advocates-peace-charged-with-setting-fire-at-berkeley/article_ad4006c5-06ab-5b7e-8a7f-3fd2ed4dbbcb.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
840high
(17,196 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,167 posts)Nothing good, that's for sure.
4139
(1,893 posts)...at least that was his accomplishment
reddread
(6,896 posts)im quite averse to censorship, but unmitigated filth *should* have no place HERE in a discussion.
3-4 in favor?
alrighty then.
4139
(1,893 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Some are likely to read your post as saying "He proved that some black teens are deserving of being profiled". I think you mean something like "And now some haters will use this as an excuse to justify profiling black teens". But what do I know?
reddread
(6,896 posts)I dont think that is the case here.
4139
(1,893 posts)Response to reddread (Reply #15)
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George II
(67,782 posts)....and faux "profiling" notwithstanding, he was on video igniting the fire.
reddread
(6,896 posts)from the great white north
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)...and I see down thread that some are doubting the confession.
As I said, UNBELIEVABLE!
branford
(4,462 posts)It's really not that difficult. No matter how much you oppose the police, racism, or anything else, you do not get to set the property of others on fire.
All this man managed to accomplish is demonstrate how some "peaceful" protesters may really not be that peaceful, thereby hurting all protesters, and in the process, probably ruining his own life with an anticipated felony conviction and a significant and well-earned incarcerative sentence.
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)It's against the rules. You are either anti-minority or anti-cop. You can't feel bad for cops who get murdered while also being outraged at police brutality. You can't be against murdering unarmed people when it's caught on video and feel police are justified if they shoot somebody pointing a 9 mm handgun at them on video. You can't be for protesting police abuses and against some guy trying to burn down a convenience store.
Don't you know? The world is black and white, and if you aren't with us on one thing, you're worse than someone who is against us on everything! Moderates are such a huge problem with this world... That and people outraged at more than one thing at a time.
(because someone will need this ... )
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Unable to pass a background check and get a good paying job. Unable to live where he wants to live. Unable to vote. Unable to do a million things that most Americans take for granted.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Maybe the DA will offer him a deal that'll knock it down to a Gross Misdemeanor or a Misdemeanor.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Pretty damning though.
branford
(4,462 posts)He was old and mature enough to be a protest leader and spokesperson who purportedly advocated peaceful protest, yet apparently knowingly and willingly was videotaped trying to set multiple fires on private property, an inherently very dangerous activity.
His is a confessed arsonist with political motives. He made clear and voluntary choices, and will now suffer the entirely expected consequences.
It can be easily argued that maybe he shouldn't be able to do all the things that most law-abiding and peaceful Americans take for granted.